tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post3074676596523403448..comments2024-02-04T19:08:45.476+00:00Comments on CRISTOBELL UNDECIDED: A DECADE ON - THEY STILL THINK WE ARE STUPIDRosalinda Huttonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-47244631494627987962017-05-03T15:01:53.307+01:002017-05-03T15:01:53.307+01:00I have over the years wondered many times as to wh...I have over the years wondered many times as to who is the boss in the McCanns relationship. Kate gives the impression of the subjugated wife leaning on her man, but I expect like Madeleine she could throw a tantrum. <br /><br />While most of the time Gerry takes the dominant role, there have been many occasions when Kate has stepped up to the plate. The first of these was her response to the German reporter who asked a difficult question on the European Tour. <br /><br />I think they both have strengths in different areas, and are so finely turned, that they can bounce the questions between them. And they are both artful at changing the subject, Kate especially. She often gives her pre-rehearsed answers not matter what the question is. <br /><br />I think Kate is dependent on Gerry, which is why it was a huge error to have allowed Gerry to sit in with her on her first police interview. But she is equally complicit. <br /><br />The Portuguese police saw Kate as responsible, based on her highly strung, volatile nature. Her description of grief in her book is quite bizarre, apart from the late Keith Moon, who smashes up their hotel room? <br /><br />Kate had every reason to feel frazzled on that holiday, taking care of 3 toddlers is no picnic, and the bus incident showed Gerry was not the hands on father he would have us believe. On the day Madeleine went missing, he had THREE tennis lessons. Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-3292394425841392152017-05-03T14:39:22.959+01:002017-05-03T14:39:22.959+01:00Aw shucks 05:50, the word 'gripping' is mu...Aw shucks 05:50, the word 'gripping' is music to an author's ears! I quite like Oracle too, it is good to know that all the knowledge I have acquired on this case, is coming in useful :)<br /><br />For all Scotland Yard and the PJ might say in defence of the parents, if they blame a burglar or a predatory nanny, they will still have to find means, method, motive, to fit the 45 minute window of opportunity. If they blame it on a woman for example, how do they explain the man (who looked like Gerry) running round PDL with a child in his arms? Any old suspect just won't. He will have to resemble the existing e-fits. <br /><br />Anyway, many thanks 05:50, it is good to know that people appreciate the work I do :)Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-81998041521716107582017-05-03T05:50:31.714+01:002017-05-03T05:50:31.714+01:00Rosalinda, What a great read. Your blog is so grip...Rosalinda, What a great read. Your blog is so gripping. You are the oracle in this case.<br />As I think you mentioned, if the JT sighting and the supposed half hour child checks could be proven false then all the evidence makes sense. Allowing enough time for DNA clean up. Body removal etc.<br />Keep up the good work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-46785086982870007112017-05-01T21:52:42.121+01:002017-05-01T21:52:42.121+01:00Anonymous1 May 2017 at 20:22
'' I think n...Anonymous1 May 2017 at 20:22<br /><br />'' I think neither of them 'harmed' Madeleine. I believe she died due to medical negligence or malpractice.''<br /><br />Based on what ? A post mortem of the body that wasn't found ? What was the medical negligence of their daughter ( not patient) ?ZiggySawdustnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-82831364171465592862017-05-01T21:48:55.652+01:002017-05-01T21:48:55.652+01:00Anonymous1 May 2017 at 18:12
''I read the...Anonymous1 May 2017 at 18:12<br /><br />''I read the Peter Hyatt analysis of the interview. For those who don't know, it's what we give away in our speech.''<br /><br />Peter Hyatt's qualified to teach guitar. Nothing else.<br /><br />''I've been in her place many times when the big headed fool thought he could sail close to the wind and it all went wrong and I took over to dig him out of a hole.''<br /><br />Are we supposed to know who 'the big headed fool' is ? or are you getting something personal off your chest.<br /><br />''That's what I see she was doing. Protecting him. Protecting her way of life and therefor the twins.''<br /><br />Because you've had a bad experience with said 'big headed fool' ?<br /><br />'' Oh he's gone on to great things while she takes the blame for him.''<br /><br />What great things ? He's had as much if not more blame thrown at him. Or is this a 'women and wives are all martyrs because I was ' thing.<br /><br />''I've followed from the beginning when it broke, but I still have no idea why Kate is blamed?''<br /><br />So what did you miss while following it ? They're both being blamed for the same mad reasons.<br /><br />''On the bus. My lovely dad would have had me on his knee. Poor little girl sat alone and her father swearing that he didn't want to be there. Vile creature.''<br /><br />what ?<br /><br />''See how he sat alone, leaving Kate to care for all three? It's obvious that he's a horrible person..It wouldn't surprise me when the twins are 18 that Kate will tell all, hopefully dumping the bastard.Wish she'd do it now...''<br /><br />I can see how you conclude so many things are 'obvious'. it's your objective viewing of things isn't it.<br />ZiggySawdustnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-51487363917145094322017-05-01T20:22:23.045+01:002017-05-01T20:22:23.045+01:00@18:12
Although I don't feel sympathy for bot...@18:12<br /><br />Although I don't feel sympathy for both, I see what you mean and I agree with you regarding Gerry McCann (at face value). I think neither of them 'harmed' Madeleine. I believe she died due to medical negligence or malpractice.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-38036881654097186562017-05-01T18:12:52.846+01:002017-05-01T18:12:52.846+01:00I read the Peter Hyatt analysis of the interview. ...I read the Peter Hyatt analysis of the interview. For those who don't know, it's what we give away in our speech.<br /><br />Not sure what to make of it, but when I listened to the interview one remark which PH ignored and leapt out on me, I maybe be biased, was this from Kate McCann.<br /><br />" What people do say is that you don't realise how strong you are until you have no option"<br /><br />I've been in her place many times when the big headed fool thought he could sail close to the wind and it all went wrong and I took over to dig him out of a hole.<br />I had no option either. It's survival.<br /><br />That's what I see she was doing. Protecting him. Protecting her way of life and therefor the twins.<br /><br /> I think this is Kate looking for some affirmation that it's she who's kept them out of trouble and I feel so sorry for her. Oh he's gone on to great things while she takes the blame for him.<br /><br />I've followed from the beginning when it broke, but I still have no idea why Kate is blamed?<br /><br />Why does anyone think Kate harmed Madeleine and not Gerry?<br /><br />On the bus. My lovely dad would have had me on his knee. Poor little girl sat alone and her father swearing that he didn't want to be there. Vile creature.<br /><br />See how he sat alone, leaving Kate to care for all three? It's obvious that he's a horrible person.<br /><br />It wouldn't surprise me when the twins are 18 that Kate will tell all, hopefully dumping the bastard.<br /><br />Wish she'd do it now.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-72900818450252679512017-05-01T15:49:01.486+01:002017-05-01T15:49:01.486+01:00John1001 May 2017 at 14:50
Because i wont read th...John1001 May 2017 at 14:50<br /><br />Because i wont read the books of Amaral or Km means nothing. I want to stand back and not be effected by anyone. Like the police should. Neither book would be allowed into a trial concerning Madeleine's fate for reasons too obvious too mention. What does that tell you about their validity in a criminal trial ? They're just books.<br /><br />There's a huge audience who make comments about those books and hold them up to either A- pick holes in KM as a fantasist, them B- discuss Amaral as a Portuguese Sherlock Holmes. But his theories about a fridge( no evidence) a nearby burial( no evidence) and the 'hidden in a coffin with another corpse'( no evidence) never cause them to think he's a fantasist do they ? There's clear bias from these 'literary critics'.They approached the books with an agenda; to isolate any sentence in KM's book and make a mountain out of a molehill to insinuate she's hiding guilt. They approach Amaral's book with the same narrow mind to isolate any 'notion' he was considering and make another mountain of another molehill and blow it up to crime of the century-as solved unofficially by Amaral just before he was removed from his position.<br /><br />I've read the events of May 03 2007. I've read about the Police and their statements, the tapas 7, Murat and the political involvement as well as the statements of the parents. I don't need Amaral's 'literary work' or KM's 'journal'.<br /><br />Pot , kettle, and black? I don't think so somehow..ZiggySawdustnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-75892084895043540622017-05-01T14:50:41.291+01:002017-05-01T14:50:41.291+01:00Hi Ziggy@19:20
'I now skip Ziggy's posts ...Hi Ziggy@19:20<br /><br />'I now skip Ziggy's posts altogether, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.''<br /><br />Then you're not qualified to comment. No wonder your swinging in the dark.<br /><br />Judging by your admission that you have not read any books on the subject, even the official books by both sides. Then how can you possibly comment on this case as well. Sorry but POT, KETTLE & BLACK spring to mind.<br /><br />John100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-61572222590348850452017-05-01T10:56:42.064+01:002017-05-01T10:56:42.064+01:00You may be right about the derailing 13:17, but I ...You may be right about the derailing 13:17, but I do welcome the opportunity to challenge the pro McCann arguments directly. Those that are worth challenging that is, like yourself and 16:13, I skip the dross! <br /><br />I am actually still intrigued as to who he might be. I tend to think he is much closer to the parents than he would have us believe. He takes cutting opinions of Kate and Gerry personally, and like them he believes criticism is hate. Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-10100918674640774142017-05-01T10:39:00.165+01:002017-05-01T10:39:00.165+01:0020:31
"The reason the government is spending...20:31<br /><br />"The reason the government is spending millions keeping them free (and free of "accidents") is because..of..what they know."<br /><br />Bull's eye!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-62961954245212239462017-04-30T20:31:54.261+01:002017-04-30T20:31:54.261+01:00@ Ziggy
The reason the government is spending mill...@ Ziggy<br />The reason the government is spending millions keeping them free (and free of "accidents") is because, in my view,of exactly what they know. As you yourself point out.<br />And I dont believe they are murderers either.<br />But fair points put and I am now more clear of your positionAladdins Insanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-10756276507271405932017-04-30T19:20:32.278+01:002017-04-30T19:20:32.278+01:00Anonymous30 April 2017 at 13:17
''Ziggy h...Anonymous30 April 2017 at 13:17<br /><br />''Ziggy has a wider agenda here I think...You cannot argue with someone who states that there is no evidence of abduction and then declares that he believes the Mccanns abduction story.''<br /><br />My wider agenda is obviously above the heads of most who blog constant speculation and insist that it be taken as truth and proof. My agenda is to actually question why there's no proof and if it would be possible to hold discussions with people who can think critically and openly.Because there's no evidence of an abduction doesn't mean there wasn't one. Abductors wouldn't want to leave clues would they.There's a similar problem with the 'parents as killers' theory that people get off on. No evidence.<br /><br />''It would appear to me that Ziggy is probably trying to derail your blog''<br /><br />You're very imaginative. If appealing to reason is seen as an attempt to derail a discussion, the derailing isn't what you should be thinking about.<br /><br />''I now skip ziggys posts altogether, and im sure im not the only one.''<br /><br />Then you're not qualified to comment.No wonder your swinging in the dark.<br /><br />Anonymous30 April 2017 at 16:13<br /><br />'' I have read some previously where he is certain there is a cover up by the government, security services, CEOP, yet still he thinks the mccanns are innocent.''<br /><br />The McCanns aren't members of Parliament-unless I missed the memo.<br /><br />Anonymous30 April 2017 at 13:17<br /><br />'' Gonçalo Amaral believes that Maddie's body was placed inside the casket where the remains of a British woman were, a coffin that was cremated later. ..after three shadowy figures were seen entering the church with a bag."<br /><br />No wonder he get's such admiration from the lunatics. If he'd taken that to the prosecution services with no evidence, they'd have had him sectioned.<br /><br />Aladdins Insane30 April 2017 at 15:31<br /><br />You're chasing your tail. I'm anti-establishment by nature and with reason. I can remain anti-establishment and still believe an abduction story.I do believe someone had been, and probably is still being, compromised.Unless someone can explain why the parents had the personal numbers of Blair, Brown, and Milliband, i hold the position of political interference being too fast and too fastidious for 'an incident abroad'. That's two prime ministers and a(at the time) prime -minister-in -waiting. Does that mean I'm 'clearing' the McCanns ? No. I question what they know.I can consider that the McCanns are less in the dark than it appears somewhere in the bigger picture.It still doesn't make me consider them as murderers.If it was them, they'd have been arrested.Our government would rather spend millions on keeping them free ? That makes no sense, whatever you add to it with your imagination.<br /><br />Anonymous30 April 2017 at 16:36<br /><br />''Im not sure what ziggys agenda is ..not sure if its coincidental that ziggy appears here not long after insane is banished from textusas blog...maybe a conspiracy to far??''<br /><br />That drivel certainly is. It amazes me how many people want to see a 'wider agenda' if someone simply asks for proof and evidence to support serious and vicious allegations with evidence.The police in two countries have made their decisions regarding the McCanns, the forensics and the various theories of Amaral and others. I didn't make those decisions-they did. What was /is THEIR 'wider agenda' ? Isn't that more important ?If the army of 'antis' are so certain, to the point of not even requiring evidence, they shouldn't bother arguing online, they should challenge those people.<br />ZiggySawdustnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-41287232900603387162017-04-30T19:12:04.127+01:002017-04-30T19:12:04.127+01:00Björn30 April 2017 at 11:02
''Leaving the...Björn30 April 2017 at 11:02<br /><br />''Leaving their children alone night after night, as they themselves claim that they have done, even with open door(s) is a moral crime, no matter what culture we're talking about. Who can argue against that?''<br /><br />Nobody can argue against that. I know i certainly haven't.I haven't seen anyone else argue against it either. But i didn't mention that. All I asked was for you to -even occasionally- support your accusations and conclusions with evidence or sources. When you leave your children alone at night, it's negligence. It's wrong to do it. But it isn't quite the same as murder, accidental death, or hiding a corpse.To spot the negligence at point A and make the rest of that nonsense up as point B, is ridiculous.What would change it from ridiculous to credible is proof. Two police forces have stated for 10 years that they have none.You- and your ilk- can choose to call these policeman liars, along with the scientists, but the state of play isn't changing.It would have by now.To believe the McCanns were guilty of hiding their child's body, whether she had died due to an accident or at the hands of a parent, and refuse to budge from that position is to accuse all investigators of the case of being liars and co-conspirators. Show me the evidence and I'll join the crusade.<br />ZiggySawdustnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-77374508874058719292017-04-30T16:36:21.585+01:002017-04-30T16:36:21.585+01:00Im not sure what ziggys agenda is but he is acting...Im not sure what ziggys agenda is but he is acting very similar to insane on textusas blog, thankfully insane was given short shrift over there and now we dont have to see his BS. Im not sure if its coincidental that ziggy appears here not long after insane is banished from textusas blog...maybe a conspiracy to far?? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-59964746943513236272017-04-30T16:13:37.638+01:002017-04-30T16:13:37.638+01:00I read here often & always skip Ziggy's po...I read here often & always skip Ziggy's posts. I have read some previously where he is certain there is a cover up by the government, security services, CEOP, yet still he thinks the mccanns are innocent. It simply does not make sense. This blog would certainly be the only place that would entertain his "insane" ramblings. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-81330128781097887202017-04-30T16:12:05.580+01:002017-04-30T16:12:05.580+01:00I meant (abductors)I meant (abductors)Aladdin Insanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-55077813182230481152017-04-30T16:04:35.763+01:002017-04-30T16:04:35.763+01:00The night crèche was part of the resort facilities...The night crèche was part of the resort facilities John, it was deemed inconvenient by the tapas group as it involved waking the children and carrying them home. <br /><br />Tannerman has proved a huge obstacle for anyone investigating this case Bjorn and I can imagine the problems OG prior to the broadcast of 2014 (?) Crimewatch. That is, how do they open up the window of opportunity by 30+ minutes without accusing Jane Tanner of lying? That extra 30 minutes makes the Smith sighting much more significant. <br /><br />At the time I thought they may have offered JT some sort of deal, but in retrospect, if the main witnesses haven't been co-operating, they have had to fill in the gaps themselves. <br /><br />There is no evidence for example, that the McCanns and their friends assisted with the Crimewatch reconstruction. Not only did the police use actors, but it was filmed in Spain. <br /><br />Crimewatch did however, have 'a new revelation', E-fits of the man seen by the Smith family. That is the clean shaven, short haired man, not the long haired changeling seen by Jane. With Tannerman ruled out, Smithman became the prime suspect. The Gerry lookalike that the McCanns had suppressed for over 5 years. Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-71461624738383418842017-04-30T15:31:19.858+01:002017-04-30T15:31:19.858+01:00@13.17
What I find odd about Ziggy is he often con...@13.17<br />What I find odd about Ziggy is he often contradicts himself, even in the same post. (and I know this will wind him up so I am bracing myself for a long reply)<br />He often appears very anti establishment, yet is very pro the establishment Mccann line. He could even replace Clarrie lol.<br />On one post Ziggy says the reason for the immediate official assistance was because someone somewhere had been "compromised".<br />Well, if he believes the official line, is this person (or two in my view and not as abductees )the abductor? And if so, is Ziggy actually helping to maintain the cover up? And is that the "wider agenda"<br /> <br />Aladdins Insanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-29399902629240505202017-04-30T14:53:48.883+01:002017-04-30T14:53:48.883+01:00Hi John 100
Public access to the Portuguese P J fi...Hi John 100<br />Public access to the Portuguese P J files has made it possible for us to discuss and question the McCanns' innocence/guilt, which is very embarrassing for people connected to this case, who has something to hide. However, the SY/Met keep the real circumstances around the so called "creche-man" secret and one wonders of course why. It's just as strange that this man, if he really exists, has decided not to reveal his identity. What dangers or threats could he possibly be exposed to if he just told us who he is? What is kept secret from the general public will inevitably lead to confusion and speculation. So Mr Creche-man please tell us who you are!Björnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-75470550374942011582017-04-30T13:17:32.838+01:002017-04-30T13:17:32.838+01:00Morais translation of a documentary that Amaral is...Morais translation of a documentary that Amaral is doing:<br /><br />"Voice over - Gonçalo Amaral believes that Maddie's body was placed inside the casket where the remains of a British woman were, a coffin that was cremated later. This thesis emerged (from a statement) in December 2007 after three shadowy figures were seen entering the church with a bag." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-46676066759089097112017-04-30T13:17:21.890+01:002017-04-30T13:17:21.890+01:00Ros, save your words,
Ziggy has a wider agenda her...Ros, save your words,<br />Ziggy has a wider agenda here I think.<br /><br />You cannot argue with someone who states that there is no evidence of abduction and then declares that he belives the Mccanns abduction story.<br /><br />It would appear to me that Ziggy is probably trying to derail your blog or at least make most of the type appear pro abduction. He has been called out numerous times and on numerous points and has steadfastly ignored those challenges.<br /><br />Ziggy appears to have the same modus operandi as walkercan1000 on twitter, argue till you lose, then leave the argument and start on the next one.<br /><br />I now skip ziggys posts altogether, and im sure im not the only one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-6365576898810213152017-04-30T12:41:14.714+01:002017-04-30T12:41:14.714+01:00Hi Ros,Bjorn,
Thing that bothers me about the JT ...Hi Ros,Bjorn,<br /><br />Thing that bothers me about the JT sighting is that when DCI Redwood said this person has come forward and has been identified, well who is he why the anonymity. Also the puzzling remark about a night creche, I thought the day staff at the creche became baby sitters at night. If there was a night creche then it wasn't part of the OC resort.John100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-69377751669328860952017-04-30T12:27:51.567+01:002017-04-30T12:27:51.567+01:00If you had been around this case as long as myself...If you had been around this case as long as myself and many others Ziggy, you would know that the Dossier was the contents of a public website called 'Exposing the Myths'. It was made up of the names, faces and personal details of all those who criticised the McCanns online. The intention was to expose, name and shame, all those in the Dossier in the same way as Brenda was. What they did to Brenda was effectively, everything they threatened to do to all of us on that List. And according to Sir Bernard HH, the Dossier was handed to the police by the McCann family.Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-12248707677391517072017-04-30T11:11:21.271+01:002017-04-30T11:11:21.271+01:00Jerry Lawton @JerryLawton
18:03 PM - 19 Sep 13
O...Jerry Lawton @JerryLawton<br />18:03 PM - 19 Sep 13<br /><br /><i>Outside court Amaral's lawyer says #McCann should be suing 'Portuguese state' not detective as the 'state decided to close the case'</i><br /><br />http://gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id455.htm<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com