tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post3236522533805587915..comments2024-02-04T19:08:45.476+00:00Comments on CRISTOBELL UNDECIDED: PUZZLE RETURNED - UNSOLVEDRosalinda Huttonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comBlogger96125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-79977955346743877232018-01-06T04:24:21.180+00:002018-01-06T04:24:21.180+00:00Anonymous4 January 2018 at 17:11
Comrade
'&#...Anonymous4 January 2018 at 17:11<br /><br />Comrade<br /><br />''A dancer of your experience might have recognised a conspiratorial foxtrot, I would’ve thought.''<br /><br />I recognised that foxtrot a long time ago. I recognised a few Paso Dobles in the following heats too. There's been much nifty footwork since.The idea was to present us with a dichotomy Yeats would have recognised : <br /><br />O body swayed to music, O brightening glance,<br />How can we know the dancer from the dance ?<br />( ironically, from 'Among School Childen')<br /><br />''I shouldn’t think you have a way of knowing that.''<br /><br />That he has nothing to support his opinion ? No. I'm assuming that it would be far more effective to produce them it if he had it though. He'd sell more books, he'd solve a case and be hailed as a hero and would deserve as much.Oh, and the 'justice for Madeleine' bit would stand tall too.<br /><br />'' How would you explain their having not applied the same logic to the somewhat lengthier OG investigation?''<br /><br />I believe they have.I can't prove it.They expressed anger at Cameron too at one point and he is no part of the PJ.As I've stated before, they're in a catch 22 situation.Can the voice rage at the hands held out to assist and fund ?<br /><br />''Perhaps one should bear in mind the refusal to take part in the reconstruction which might have been crucial.''<br /><br />I find that line of protest too weak to discuss. Their anger was justified.If you believe they buried their child then, understandably it's not. If you believe the child was swept away to someone or somewhere, it is.<br />When time is called by OG, we can only guess what the McCanns will feel or say. I would hazard a guess that a lot of private conversations would have taken place before they give up.What they feel and think is private to them.They aren't obligated to make a public announcement and to feed the vultures.It will mark a new direction in their lives.<br /><br />''Milord has been very generous and forgiving (biased) towards the McCanns.''<br /><br />I entered the circus late, T. When wondering what act I'd missed, I was informed that two parents had killed their kid and buried her and lied to police and the Government let them get away with it and everything was 'obvious'.I could have headed for the exits and looked for a less predictable show.But i stayed in case the hive mind was wrong again.I value nothing yielded from the surface.The content of real value is where the oil, gold and diamonds always are.Dig, dig, and dig. I dug and I continue to refine the nuggets.The parents are innocent until proven guilty-it's that simple . If they can be proven guilty but those who could do it won't do it, it's a new show.And they won't be the protagonists.But who would be ? Can you honestly see them getting star billing ? It's a stalemate.The endgame began in the first act.<br /><br />''my view is that, most likely, there exists a conspiracy of which the McCanns have been aware and, consequently, have been a party to.<br /><br />Sort of what i believe too.<br /><br />Namste<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-51324329888183682612018-01-06T03:50:38.307+00:002018-01-06T03:50:38.307+00:00Comrade
''Freedom of speech is an abstrac...Comrade<br /><br />''Freedom of speech is an abstract concept. Refusing to publish/censoring are practical steps one may take to protect one’s private enterprise for instance.''<br /><br />Freedom of speech may well be an abstract concept.Libel and defamation have more stringent guidlines, however. The latter should be the guiding hand to those who are charged with interpretation of the former.<br /><br />''You're the banner-carrier holding Amaral up as a saint and martyr.”<br /><br />That is your way of putting it, not Rosalinda’s.''<br /><br />Amaral cashed in on his position of former lead detective of the case to gain credibility when composing his thoughts for his book.He claimed to feel pain for Madeleine and said it was the driving force that compelled him. Yet, he accused the parents of lying and burying their own child's body.Failing to show proof might have one foot on the abstract, but it's vicious and, until he supports it, it's libelous. To view this as abstract is one thing, to switch it on its head and label him the victim of vicious litigants(parents) doesn't require an in depth analysis to see what is meant.<br /><br />''The official line in the US and UK is that 19 Muslims were behind 911. Does an ‘official line’ necessarily solve a case? If it doesn’t, why use it in justification.''<br /><br />Because the police forces of two countries call the ongoing investigation a missing person case. My intemperate bias when discussing Amaral is covered above.<br /><br />''He has been under no obligation to produce proof.''<br /><br />That doesn't add any weight to his allegations.It's a travesty of justice that he hasn't been required to do so.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-30692418221883941002018-01-05T15:29:48.090+00:002018-01-05T15:29:48.090+00:00@09:19
Not at all, dear.
T@09:19<br /><br />Not at all, dear.<br /><br />TAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-19871425430427201152018-01-05T09:19:31.572+00:002018-01-05T09:19:31.572+00:00Many thanks 12:19, that was very dense of me, lol....Many thanks 12:19, that was very dense of me, lol.<br /><br />Ah the delightful Kenneth Williams, a real life Uncle Dynamite!Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-19925320959963964242018-01-04T17:11:14.855+00:002018-01-04T17:11:14.855+00:00Anonymous 28 December 2017 at 20:31
http://cristob...Anonymous 28 December 2017 at 20:31<br />http://cristobell.blogspot.co.uk/2017/12/puzzle-returned-unsolved.html?showComment=1514493061505#c7478312752481538057<br /><br />“Shoddy work and incompetence aren't crimes.”<br /><br />It Depends… I was referring to The McCanns’ opinion that they were being framed (criminal offence).<br /><br />“But Amaral was removed either way. Why ?”<br /><br />A dancer of your experience might have recognised a conspiratorial foxtrot, I would’ve thought.<br /><br />“Amaral has nothing to support his opinions about the guilt of the parents of either lying or burying their child.”<br /><br />I shouldn’t think you have a way of knowing that.<br /><br />“He has a few theories he has failed to support as well. I've considered those morsels.”<br /><br />See ^^.<br /><br />“The McCanns anger at the lack of progress and the police mistakes early in the case have credence.It might not have been their fault and they still might not have found Madeleine or the abductor, but they considered that things were happening too slowly. They would be panicking-they're entitled to be angry.”<br /><br />Supposing I accept that they have been “entitled to be angry” etc. How would you explain their having not applied the same logic to the somewhat lengthier OG investigation?<br /><br />“The failure of the investigation to find anything substantial in the way of evidence or leads lends weight to their assessment of the PJ.”<br /><br />Perhaps one should bear in mind the refusal to take part in the reconstruction which might have been crucial.<br /><br />It is your view that OG is most likely to conclude with no result the McCanns have been saying they seek. Do you expect the McCanns, when OG comes to an end, to substitute dismay and anger at the lack of the results sough for gratitude they have expressed so far?<br /><br />“Read it again, no 'and' was necessary.” <br /><br />And..? = And what do you propose one should infer from your “We're stepping into 2018 now and nothing's happened.”?<br /><br />I guessed that you are not a believer in magic (bullet or whatever). I referred to the ‘official line’ -that the JFK case remains unsolved despite the <b>1979</b> “probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy.” It goes without saying that we're stepping into 2018 now and nothing's happened.<br /><br />Milord has been very generous and forgiving (biased) towards the McCanns. T’s disposition is different: as a notional titled entity, T is not disposed to forgive anyone anything in this case.<br /><br />My earldom for your comments, Milord, as always.<br /><br />Respectfully affectionate<br /><br />T;)<br /><br />NB As to my overdue reply, my view is that, most likely, there exists a conspiracy of which the McCanns have been aware and, consequently, have been a party to.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-32365451290282931892018-01-04T16:50:28.119+00:002018-01-04T16:50:28.119+00:00Anonymous 25 December 2017 at 23:26
http://cristob...Anonymous 25 December 2017 at 23:26<br />http://cristobell.blogspot.co.uk/2017/12/puzzle-returned-unsolved.html?showComment=1514244408999#c7500654594348978106<br /><br />“Freedom of speech is what it is. Banning and censoring are what they are. What's the difference between refusing to publish and banning / censoring ?”<br /><br />Freedom of speech is an abstract concept. Refusing to publish/censoring are practical steps one may take to protect one’s private enterprise for instance.<br /><br />“You're the banner-carrier holding Amaral up as a saint and martyr.”<br /><br /> That is your way of putting it, not Rosalinda’s.<br /><br />“Yet he accused two parents of being liars and of burying the body of their own child.”<br /><br />He’d expressed his opinions. They chose not to sue him for libel. Perhaps they didn’t want certain aspects of the case to be scrutinised in a criminal court. Whatever legal paths they have trodden have led to their failure.<br /><br />“The official line in his own country is that it's a missing person case , like it is in the UK.”<br /><br />The official line in the US and UK is that 19 Muslims were behind 911. Does an ‘official line’ necessarily solve a case? If it doesn’t, why use it in justification.<br /><br />“The official line is innocent until proven guilty.”<br /><br />One is entitled, therefore, to conclude that you show intemperate bias when you forget that “official line” when talking Amaral’s ‘crimes’.<br /><br />“But he adds his little disclaimer that he's only interested in justice for Madeleine so people like you can promote his unfounded, cruel allegations.”<br /><br />He expresses his opinions or quotes PJ.<br /><br />“He has failed to produce any proof whatsoever in 11 years now.”<br /><br />He has been under no obligation to produce proof. In that respect, the situation most likely would’ve been very different had the McCanns sued for libel.<br /><br />“But you defend his vicious rumours on the grounds of free speech and attack the parents for wanting him shut down if he can't prove his accusations.”<br /><br />They had an opportunity, which they didn’t take, to ‘shut him down’. ’See ^^.<br /><br />“Logic and objectivity clearly supports the fact that he is guilty of slander, libel and defamation if he can't support his accusations with evidence or proof .<br /><br />See ^^.<br /><br />“Blinkered, angry, insensitive, uninformed commentators support that the parents are vicious to pursue him.These same people are quick to pretend they only seek justice.”<br /><br />I hope not to be counted among those.<br /><br />Namaste.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-53887366481330967862017-12-30T18:33:47.990+00:002017-12-30T18:33:47.990+00:00''As for the police looking for a live chi...''As for the police looking for a live child, that ship sailed when Operation Grange moved into PDL with the digging equipment. ''<br /><br />That's merely your opinion. That's why I asked why the two forces are still searching for a missing child. The child has still to be decalred dead.<br /><br />''OK. 1) Big pool of blood. 2) Tiny vestige. <br />Point 1) would suggest NO clean up. Point 2) clean up carried out.''<br /><br />Is that it ? Because there was no 'big pool of blood' you have decided there was a thorough clean up , thus implying a lot more blood was there in the first place . How about considering no blood mean't no blood. None of the PJ who trampled around a really small - and mostly sealed - apartment caught the lingering odour of any bleaches. You wouldn't need dogs for that . The panic of all those scrubbing away didn't alert the twins ? The tapas group, who had nothing to lose if they weren't involved in anything, decided to willingly risk all ?<br /><br />''You mock the advances in science and technology, but shouldn't these be welcomed by parents? Do they not want to know what happened to their child? Are they not confident that the forensic evidence found will rule them out?''<br /><br />I didn't mock advances in science, I mocked the idea of so many people, who are in denial about the lack of evidence to incriminate their chosen culprits, are clinging to that as their final hope.That in itself is an unconscious acknowledgement that they accept that nothing exists now that could do the job.<br /><br />''Your desperate attempts to steer suspicion towards Robert Murat (again) are pathetic. Other than being a man separated from his wife, living close to Warners, there is nothing, zilch, to implicate him. ''<br /><br />You've re-written the event as an episode of Dexter and Psycho.Blood everywhere but cleaned up ? You've invented an in depth personality inventory of two complete strangers based on soundbytes you've watched on the internet and TV, and tried to pass it off as psychology because you've been a people watcher all of your life.Watch Murat.Study Murat.He may well have had little or nothing to do with anything, but if you want to play psychologist, his interviews, movements and statements have far more valid 'tells'.<br /><br />''It's not I who should be praying for this case to be solved 00:14, it's the McCanns!''<br /><br />I'm sure they still are. I'm also sure that, given their chosen faith, the act of buying presents for Madeleine each Christmas can be considered 'active faith'.I know what you think it is, you've addressed it with your trademark humanity more than once.Ironically, you often repeat how much you want to have faith in human nature.<br /><br />''They are the ones searching for answers.''<br /><br />I hope they ask the right questions in the right places if they haven't already.The real clean up was far more efficient than the imagined one in 5 A .<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-30704610453241886512017-12-30T16:30:36.550+00:002017-12-30T16:30:36.550+00:00Hi Ros (part 2!)
You have a lot to say, too? lol! ...Hi Ros (part 2!)<br />You have a lot to say, too? lol! Imagine, the camp fire tales. Whilst getting ratted lol. We'd be up all night! But that's the house I grew up in. The wildest stories you have ever heard, of real people, how mad most people really are. I think that's the nub of it - people are truly crazy. Those who pretend not to be? Zzzzzzz!<br />I would always write letters to my Aunty - and loved getting replies. It was our own world, all in "real writing" so it was very special.<br />I imagine, like me, you soon realised the world was not entirely as we'd been told it was. So you'd question everything and become that "pest". Asking questions no one had the answer to. You noticed that nobody knew everything at all. You knew you were right - against the mass who said you were not. Some may call it stubborn, I'd call it saying what you see. Sure, it can make you unpopular, sometimes. Yet, other times you'll get a crowd saying, "I'm pleased you said that". Someone has to ask, to say something. The more outrageous the better in my book (which I've yet to write!)<br />Passing on what you know is very rewarding. To help those who want it and need it. The time you can save others from making your now rectified mistakes. I imagine you'd be like the female version of "To Sir, With Love" and ditch convention!<br />Our Mothers have a lot to answer for!<br />-<br />SixYearsAndThenSomeManAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-3450549430768407972017-12-30T16:12:49.958+00:002017-12-30T16:12:49.958+00:00Hiya Ros!
A reply to the first part, first.
Thank ...Hiya Ros!<br />A reply to the first part, first.<br />Thank you for sharing your choccy cake - I couldn't help noticing that er.. someone had taken a big bite out of it first....lol<br />You can do no better than to have led a life of reading and people watching. A great way to know yourself. And the serendipity! Life's a Lucky Bag and is the theme you keep going here. I never know what you are going to come up with next and is oft surprising and jaw-dropping. "Did she just say that? Yes! She did!" Great stuff!<br />My Mother and Grandmother were Irish - both quite mad but boy did they know their way around the world and its people. They always let me be me. Like you they knew I could not be changed. Character building when left to formulate your own take on it all. I am all for it.<br />You have a wealth of life stories and I know you keep a little back each time to draw us in! And curiosity drives almost all of us. We get to see a world we did not know existed and it adds to our understanding, how are lives could have been so different, again, why you can say things like only you can. I always want to know the "why". <br />To me, you and here are like an unexpected present. The best kind. In book terms, a "must read".<br />Makes me laugh you know, because I hate a quiet room and I just have to liven it up, too. I imagine you too have found yourself in some rather er delicate situations because of that - I know I have.<br />But I'd not have it any other way. I think we are the people who, after we'd been to a party, our Mothers would have to go around next day and apologise lol! Thing is, Ros, if we don't do the crazy now, when will we? I am buggered if I will hold back, ever. So as I find here so much fun I will dive in and have some!<br />More in a bit! (Cake I meant lol!)<br />-<br />SixYearsWadingThroughAnEnormousMississippiMudCakeManAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-80286473663830443592017-12-30T15:40:36.779+00:002017-12-30T15:40:36.779+00:00No-one gets any pleasure out of thinking the chil...No-one gets any pleasure out of thinking the child dead 00:14, we accept it as the tragedy it is. As for an official declaration that Madeleine is dead, the parents turned this down at the 7 year mark, the official number of years when a missing person can be declared dead.<br /><br />As for the police looking for a live child, that ship sailed when Operation Grange moved into PDL with the digging equipment. <br /><br />OK. 1) Big pool of blood. 2) Tiny vestige. <br />Point 1) would suggest NO clean up. Point 2) clean up carried out.<br /><br />You mock the advances in science and technology, but shouldn't these be welcomed by parents? Do they not want to know what happened to their child? Are they not confident that the forensic evidence found will rule them out?<br /><br />Your desperate attempts to steer suspicion towards Robert Murat (again) are pathetic. Other than being a man separated from his wife, living close to Warners, there is nothing, zilch, to implicate him. <br /><br />With your final paragraph, you are wrong. I would rejoice if Madeleine were found alive and well. And if the parents were found not to have been involved, it would greatly restore my faith in human nature. <br /><br />It's not I who should be praying for this case to be solved 00:14, it's the McCanns! Their daughter is still missing and their only real hope of finding out what happened to her, lies in the evidence collected in Apartment 5A. They, more than anyone, would benefit from a more comprehensive analysis of the evidence found using new techniques. They are the ones searching for answers.Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-26893182575082119142017-12-30T14:38:52.289+00:002017-12-30T14:38:52.289+00:00My mother didn’t behave as society expected, she b...My mother didn’t behave as society expected, she broke every rule going, some just for the hell of it. She just wasn’t cut out to be a stay at home wife and mother, some women aren’t, but she was always terrific fun. I’m glad to have had a mum with so much character, and feel sad for others who don’t. She was fearless, and in many ways she passed that on to me. That’s why I’m not afraid of the misfits who have attached themselves to me on social media. And I’m far too educated to be intimated by those who presume they have the authority to give me a ticking off. <br /><br />I love talking about myself, I think most of us do, if we are honest - that is, unleash the constant dialogue that’s going on in our heads. From the earliest age I was a chatterbox, and a ‘blooming pest’ lol, I wanted to know about everything and I wanted to talk about everything. My dear old dad got me into reading, and indeed writing. It all began as I lay on the floor pencil in hand asking him what I should say in a letter I was writing to my granny in Ireland. At the time he was studying the racing pages to find a horse for the 3.30 and wanting a bit of peace! ‘You know all those things you want to tell me’ he said, ‘hmm, yes’ said I, ‘well tell her’. So I did! And from then on, when I couldn’t find anyone to talk to (often, they used to hide from me), I would write a letter, not necessarily to post, but as a way to tell someone, anyone, about the amazing stuff I had just learned, or funny experience I had just had, before I burst with excitement! <br /><br />I quite literally went into teaching because I love the sound of my own voice, lol. Ditto writing, because I get to choose the subject, ha ha. But I jest, in teaching, as exhilarating as having a captive audience is, it is far more rewarding to bring that confidence forward in others. To see students go from those first nervous and tentative steps, to taking command of their subject and discovering the freedom to go above and beyond the set text. <br /><br />Writing an interactive blog is similar. It is rewarding when readers write in, because I feel I have created a welcoming forum where civility and reason rule. There is no hatred or hysteria here, just discussion. The feedback keeps my own views, opinions and ideas fluid, I like to be challenged, I like to look at things from a different perspective. I have no problem being proved wrong, it simply means I have learned something new. With the Madeleine case I have examined it from every angle, as if it were a complex jigsaw puzzle that will only sit flat if the right pieces are in the right places. Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-19563002769711501472017-12-30T14:34:38.044+00:002017-12-30T14:34:38.044+00:00Happy New Year to you too SYIACM and thank you for...Happy New Year to you too SYIACM and thank you for being such a great contributor here, I always enjoy your posts and I know others do too. You are of course more than welcome to a chocolate cake!<br /><br />I have always had a tendency to say out loud what others are thinking SYIACM, it's a great icebreaker! It's always disarming; it leads either to great friendship or on occasion to fear and loathing. Especially from the jobsworths, the pompous, several ex bosses and anyone who patronises me. I'm just sorry my foes on here don't get the live version, I'm quite animate when I get going and I've a got a look that could strip paint!<br /><br />I also hope that my stories, anecdotes and wondering off into pastures new will resonate with someone SYIACM. My favourite authors have always been those who make me think and who introduce me to new ideas. I learned all about the art of Zen from Sex Tips for Girls (Cynthia Heimel), which led on to a study of Buddhism, for example. <br /><br />My childhood memories I hope, evoke childhood memories for my readers, I think we should all reconnect with our 5 year old selves, the people we were meant to be before we were hurt and jaded by life. <br /><br />When I wrote my misery memoir, I had to go back to memories that I had long buried because other people had convinced me they were traumatic. And that indoctrination had begun in the convent when I was 'rescued' and forced to live a strict, regimented, disciplined life that I hated! Of course I got battered every day, I was a rebel and a free spirit! <br /><br />Despite all my rebellion, they still managed somehow to convince me that my mum was a bad person, and for that I will never forgive myself. I never truly got to know her until later in life, and I had missed so much!<br /><br />She was of course as mad as a hatter, but she had more personality in her little finger than most people have in their entire bodies. She was stunningly beautifully, and crazily flamboyant, a mixture of Liz Taylor and Dorothy Parker on acid! Men, gay ones especially, adored her! Not just for her acerbic wit, but because my Irish mother spoke English better than the Queen! And I had to speak the same because I was the posh daughter ‘home from boarding school’, lol. <br /><br />I’m delighted to say she stayed exactly the same to the very end. It wasn’t her who needed to change, it was me. Once I accepted that she would never behave like ‘normal’ people, I began to enjoy, and even love, her eccentricity. And I began to see why other people genuinely liked and loved her, I’m ashamed to say, I’d never understood it before! <br /><br />And I began to see why she ‘played up’, especially in situations where respect and decorum were required. I’m beginning to find, in oh so subtle ways, that people are now doing the same to me! That is pre-warning those who don’t know me, to expect the unexpected! Lol. I almost feel obliged to come out with something outrageous!Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-85573060659597505022017-12-29T12:19:57.248+00:002017-12-29T12:19:57.248+00:00@11:57
An audience with Kenneth Williams@11:57<br /><br />An audience with Kenneth WilliamsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-6351233149954495222017-12-29T11:57:14.520+00:002017-12-29T11:57:14.520+00:00Ah, the Seventh Earl of Ickenham, I should have kn...Ah, the Seventh Earl of Ickenham, I should have known :)<br /><br />Bringing a little joy is a wonderful deed, and tragically under appreciated in this cynical fast paced age. Too many have no time for it, or worse, treat it with suspicion. The Damon Runyan chap sounds delightful, I must go find him.<br /><br />I did for a while, dabble in philosophy via an easy to read book series that I bought at a rate of one a month until I had the complete set! It was a very enlightening time, but nothing compared to Uncle Dynamite! His sweetness and light philosophy is as enchanting now as it was when I was 15!<br /><br />Now, who is Kenny and what is the title of your link, I am intrigued, but unable to copy and past :(Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-79768470510326982912017-12-29T10:20:38.747+00:002017-12-29T10:20:38.747+00:00To AFAN and Ros!
Very kind comments from both of y...To AFAN and Ros!<br />Very kind comments from both of you, thank you.<br />I come here to read what Ros says and what we all say. The replies and how Ros deals with them.<br />What I particularly like is Ros will post up gainsayers comments, complete with personal abuse, like nobody else has, does or ever will. I know of no other place or person who does that.<br /><br />Now we are all different with different tastes or takes, that's a given. What I have found is that trying to force someone to agree with you via admonishment, brute force insult or belittling never works. I find it so heartening when Ros replies like for like! No euphemistic dressing it up - tell it like it is Ros! Force of nature alert! <br /><br />I also have found that many underestimate Ros. I've said that before. But some people never learn. They just don't listen.<br />Everyone has a story to tell and I want to hear Ros's. If we disagree or want to rail against what she says, remember, she is actually holding up a mirror to yourself, and allows you to get on with it. It helps me understand that my point of view is not the only one, and other people have other ideas, and more importantly, why they have them. In essence, their life story, which is what we have here, replete with fails as well as successes.<br /><br />I maintain we all like to talk about ourselves and it's nice to have that affirmed. Those times you read and think "Hey! I though that was just me" or conversely, "Oh! So that's why you think that way".<br />But that sounds all so academic. Whereas I can go and be dictated to on certain forums I come here for fun and a more humourous, satirical and wry take on what can be an otherwise anodyne prosaic existence. <br />OK, you can all see I'm really angling for one of Ros's chocolate cakes, lol!<br /><br />Happy New Year to everyone here.<br />-<br />SixYearsInaComaManAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-22874372487138247572017-12-29T00:38:05.860+00:002017-12-29T00:38:05.860+00:00''03:45 Err, you were the one claiming pol...''03:45 Err, you were the one claiming police interviews were lazy and old fashioned, that's why I asked you what the modern non lazy methods were. ''<br /><br />I didn't mention a thing about them.That was someone else.<br /><br />''but then I can't remember any suspects who were as assertive and as clear with their agendas as the McCanns. ''<br /><br />That could be read ( objectively) as determination and a confidence in their own innocence.<br /><br />''body language is a science. Not with those fixated on smutty words, but in the legitimate world of psychology. ''<br /><br />Psychology is rarely used in a court of law due to the grey area that is Psychology and the Law. Body language, however, is never used and never will be. It makes interesting TV and sells a decent amount of books to those who want to add a string to their bow. As you say, it's a fascinating and sometimes entertaining subject.But this the case of a missing child, not an episode of Cracker.<br /><br />''Unfortunately for Gerry and Kate they were ruled by their vanity rather than their heads. Every interview they have given is filled with 'tells' that are easy to deconstruct even for amateurs. ''<br /><br />They may well have been ruled by anger and driven by determination.They had lost their child.Or is psychic power also a fascinating subject and easy to utilize by amateurs now.How come detectives missed '' 'tells' that are easy to deconstruct even for amateurs' ? Any ideas ?<br /><br />''People who set out to deceive believe they are cleverer than the people they are deceiving, that's why they speak 'down' to them. 'I know more than you do' said Kate to the press''<br /><br />Or was she just stating a fact ? Do you believe the journalists and media in general are as involved in the investigation as the victims of the crime and the detectives ? Really ? When did stating a fact become a crime ?<br /><br />''Gerry and Kate fell into the trap of thinking the more they spoke the more they convinced people of their innocence, except, all the while, the opposite was happening. ''<br /><br />And once that had happened, the police of the UK and Portugal confirmed that they are not suspects and are not being investigated.They just haven't convinced the body language experts who watch youtube yet .<br /><br />''It is part of our genetic make up, our survival instinct. That's why so many took to the internet, we wondered why we were being lied to.''<br /><br />The genetic programming evolved from the first generation of mankind to walk the planet. It evolved primarily to ensure survival. Nobody was ever mauled to death by a lie. We've had the internet for about 25 years.How reliable is that genetic make up and how finely tuned is it if we need to be taught how to use it on youtube by people seeking their 15 minutes of fame and to sell some books to the gullible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-88999120331183127792017-12-29T00:14:52.367+00:002017-12-29T00:14:52.367+00:00Rosalinda, Cristobell Hutton28 December 2017 at 10...Rosalinda, Cristobell Hutton28 December 2017 at 10:24<br /><br />'''Changed the investigation' - the police were no longer looking for a live child. ''<br /><br />So why are they looking for a live child now ? Or haven't they consulted you yet ? Redwood stated that they had to consider the less unpleasant scenario of the child not being alive if they were to be thorough. You are one of the massed ranks who pounced on that like a hawk, tore a piece off so all that was left was 'she might be dead' and translated it as 'is dead'. Maybe you can explain why she has yet to be declared dead and why it hasn't become a murder investigation . But I doubt it. You're enjoying the construction of your own narrative far too much to be dragged into the reality that exists in the cold light of day offline.<br /><br />''You are right, only tiny vestiges of blood were found, there had been quite a thorough clean up.''<br /><br />You needed to be told that on your blog by myself and a couple of others who found the 'blood spatter all over the wall' talk plain silly and obviously dishonest. Is there any evidence of the clean up, or have you included that to keep the murder /death story alive ? Not very imaginative.<br /><br />'' Sometimes it only takes one tiny speck of blood to unravel a murder and unlike yourself 03:54, the police do find such blood traces compelling. ''<br /><br />Just not in this case apparently.<br /><br />''You say Martin Brunt is a Murdoch minion, really? Who's minion was he when he went after Brenda Leyland?''<br /><br />Sky TV's and the Establishment's, who had been waging a war, publicly, against Twitter trolls for a long time before what happened to Brenda Leyland. Using her name is disrespectful to her memory by the way.It's a cheap trick.<br /><br />''Science hasn't sent anything packing 03:54, what an absurd idea, that's not how science works. The evidence collected in 2007 is just as relevant as it always was, probably more so due to advances in technology over the last 11 years. ''<br /><br />Or, to say it more clearly : '' The shelved evidence is really relevant.They're just waiting for advances in forensics that can identify the actual death as well as the killers ,(who are the parents)''. That argument sounded desperate in 2008. It sounds much worse now.It's a really flimsy straw to clutch at.<br /><br />''You think I am ruling Robert Murat out because he is not a friend of the McCanns? Lol. There is nothing to rule him in! He has a sound alibi and there were no dog alerts to any of his property.''<br /><br /> Why would a dog alert at his property ? The event occurred in 5 A . Why is his alibi, as supplied rather confusingly by his mother, sound, and that of the McCanns isn't ?There's as much to rule him in as there is to rule the parents in. You just don't hate Murat. The 'lol' is as unconvincing as it normally is. People here can read.<br /><br /> Everything you say, and claim to observe, regarding the McCanns, suggests that even if a complete stranger turned up with Madeleine, or confessed to killing her, you'd find some way to link him to the McCanns.That's one of the main reasons your thinking is completely faulty. It's bad enough holding such a heavily biased view, but to back it up with zero evidence or logic is far worse. Trying to claim that science is just waiting in the wings for advances before it closes the case sounds like a prayer.Good luck with that.What will happen when it isn't answered. Will there be a new thread ''Do the superior McCanns have influence over God'' ?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-72873518318616052017-12-29T00:02:20.747+00:002017-12-29T00:02:20.747+00:00It wasn't a trial to decide what was abusive.I...It wasn't a trial to decide what was abusive.It was a trial to decide what libel and defamation amounted to.Maybe i should have requested that the hordes gave me the definition of libel and defamation of character and then offer the same to the judge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-41589131101563370402017-12-28T21:50:22.157+00:002017-12-28T21:50:22.157+00:00Anonymous at 20:31
("Amaral, to the those who...Anonymous at 20:31<br />("Amaral, to the those who live in the 20th /21st century is guilty of libel as he made grave allegations and failed to prove them to be right.")<br /><br />The judges decided Amaral’s claims were not abusive and were within acceptable limits in an open and democratic society.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-74783127524815380572017-12-28T20:31:01.505+00:002017-12-28T20:31:01.505+00:00Anonymous28 December 2017 at 12:20
''Abso...Anonymous28 December 2017 at 12:20<br /><br />''Absolutely! However, if that opinion were correct, then the PJ would have been guilty of a crime.''<br /><br />Shoddy work and incompetence aren't crimes. But Amaral was removed either way. Why ?<br /><br />''It can be argued indeed. Were such arguments of sufficient strength in law, the detective could have been considered guilty of a crime of libel...Consequently, the McCanns might’ve had a case in libel against the detective. Having received arguably the best legal advice available, they chose not to sue for libel..They sued for damages instead. Perhaps they should have consulted you, comrade, and sued for libel???''<br /><br />Amaral, to the those who live in the 20th /21st century is guilty of libel as he made grave allegations and failed to prove them to be right. The allegation of the parents lying was libelous, and the allegation that they hid their child's corpse was, and remains, disgusting. Why isn't that defamation of character ? Because he has been proved to be right ? Maybe the parents should have pursued the libel first, won that, then pursued damages and won that.I'd like to hear the hordes explain to me what their definition is of defamation and libel and why neither apply to Amaral and his 'literary work'. It's hardly been the go-to book for detectives since he wrote it has it.There must be reasons for that .<br /><br />''You are free to think whatever you like comrade. What seems apparent is that you arbitrarily give credence to the McCanns‘ suspicions while refusing to consider Amaral’s.''<br /><br />Amaral has nothing to support his opinions about the guilt of the parents of either lying or burying their child.He has a few theories he has failed to support as well. I've considered those morsels. The McCanns anger at the lack of progress and the police mistakes early in the case have credence.It might not have been their fault and they still might not have found Madeleine or the abductor, but they considered that things were happening too slowly.They would be panicking-they're entitled to be angry.The failure of the investigation to find anything substantial in the way of evidence or leads lends weight to their assessment of the PJ.<br /><br />''“We're stepping into 2018 now and nothing's happened.”!<br />And..?''<br /><br />Read it again, no 'and' was necessary.<br /><br />''Or do you give credence to ‘the magic bullet’ hypothesis?''<br /><br />Only fools, ex CIA and ex US Politicians pretend to believe that theory. Or was that what you were going for by alluding to it ? You chose the wrong one to do that, T . On a positive note, the sarcasm was delivered with a little thought and style, and that was refreshing.<br /><br /> If I ever suggest that science is just waiting for advances to prove the single bullet theory ( therefore it still makes sense), or that Oswald's comrade was stood aloft the underpass with a magic shield to deflect a bullet to hit JFK from the front, feel free to imply the same once more.<br /><br />nb : maybe, in the new year, you will get around to answering the question I asked you a few threads and couple of months back as you said you would.<br /><br />Happy New Year, comrade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-35336210535729106442017-12-28T20:03:56.004+00:002017-12-28T20:03:56.004+00:0028.12 @15:33
Sweet Lord! Amazing perspicacity at...28.12 @15:33<br /><br />Sweet Lord! Amazing perspicacity at last: I ám the Seventh Earl of Ickenham (‘T’ is the seventh letter of the alphabet backwards). Oh well, publicity is a thing from which I have never been averse.<br /><br />At his most brilliant best, good old Pelham used to carol my grandad’s praises.<br /><br />‘Comrade’? As my gramps would say, I am like the chap in Damon Runyan's story, who always figured that if he could bring a little joy into any life, no matter how, he was doing a wonderful deed. It all comes under the head of spreading sweetness and light, which is my constant aim.<br /><br />Happy New Year. And same to Kenny, peace be upon him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqVC0vEl0-M<br /><br />T:) <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-56128204448875768412017-12-28T15:33:37.332+00:002017-12-28T15:33:37.332+00:00Happy New Year Comrade T! :)
I have to ask you my...Happy New Year Comrade T! :)<br /><br />I have to ask you my friend, about your use of the word 'Comrade', you don't really strike me as a Marxist, more a kindly old aristocratic Uncle from Blandings than a revolutionary.<br /><br />Having said that, I'm not entirely sure 'Comrade' is the generic term for an equal worldwide. A tad more Latino than the French Revolution's 'Citizen'. Now I envisage you as Anthony Quinn (my first love, aged 15, lol)- can you do the fandango? Or perhaps there is a touch of a Che Guevera? In which case I am going to go have a listen to Abba's Fernando, as in 'can you hear the drums Fernando', it makes my toes tingle :). <br /><br />I jest of course, I still think you are more Uncle Dynamite than a South American freedom fighter. A refined fellow to whom the words 'I say old chap' and 'ears ears' are among your usual vernacular. And I hasten to add, words such as those are music to my ears, I definitely feel I was born into the wrong age! I'd really like to see the old bowing and hand kissing come back, maybe not so much the head chopping. I have actually wasted an inordinate amount of time deciding who on 'The Tudors' does the best bow! Top of course is Henry himself (Jonathan Rhys-Myers who is a God), but Lord Suffolk and sometimes Superman, Henry Cavill comes a close second. There should be honourable mentions however for poet Will, the curly haired musician and Thomas Cromwell. On the female side and the curtsying, the haughty Princess Mary is unbeatable for grace and charm. I wonder if they had competitions? Or practiced in front of the mirror? I'm going to have to give it a try! <br /><br />Anyway, before I descend into complete madness, lol, Happy 2018 to you T, and thank you always, for being here :) <br /><br />Ps. Think Kenneth Williams, when saying 'ears ears' out loud ;)<br />Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-7486127423518268102017-12-28T14:54:08.528+00:002017-12-28T14:54:08.528+00:00You are so kind Afan :) It is tempting to whinge ...You are so kind Afan :) It is tempting to whinge and complain that my writing is blacklisted because of my views on the McCanns, and I think I did for a while, but ultimately, talent will always find a way. Though I am riddled with insecurities, I have never stopped believing in my writing talent, I WILL have that bestseller!<br /><br />You are right of course, the malcontents don't deserve the time and attention I give them, but in their own way, they are fascinating insight into how the 'other side' think. But I agree, SYIACM is much more fun!<br /><br />I think 2018 will be a seminal year in many ways Afan, far more dramatic than the last. Operation Grange will have to come to an end at some time, and the funding runs out in March. Common sense dictates it can't close leaving more questions than answers.<br /><br />It will be seminal for me too, last chance saloon, lol. Time to chase my dreams and make them come true, or at least die trying! I have let the words of my critics and the awful things said about me online, gnaw away at my confidence, and given up way too soon. <br /><br />My writing was good enough to be picked up immediately by a BBC producer and a major publishing house (I'm convincing myself here), in fact the BBC guy also discovered Bill Bryson! I'm a fool to have let them bring me down so far. Too afraid to disturb the universe by marketing my books. <br /><br />I have reached a watershed Afan, which has always proved to be a good thing in the past, ha ha. I'm nothing like the monster the pro McCanns have created, and thank you Afan and all those who can see that. Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-60416735112243545352017-12-28T14:05:54.579+00:002017-12-28T14:05:54.579+00:00Im sure there are many rooting for you out there R...Im sure there are many rooting for you out there Ros,I believe there are many people out there who read here but are maybe to shy to comment for whatever reason. I think a majority of people will have an opinion but only a minority will express it !<br /> Personally I like the cut of your jib and I think the negative comments are just from 1 or 2 people who like to be argumentative for the fun of it. Dont spend to much time on them I say. The banter between you and SYIACM is far more entertaining !!<br /><br />Re poor MBM, who knows what will happen this year ahead, personally I just hope we wont be in the same place this time next year and that the victim (MBM) will finally have justice!<br /><br />Kind regards<br /><br />AFANAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-26624008539070194962017-12-28T12:20:48.235+00:002017-12-28T12:20:48.235+00:0028.12 @03:45
1 “It's an opinion and they'...28.12 @03:45<br /><br />1 “It's an opinion and they're entitled not only to hold it but to voice it.”<br /><br />Absolutely! However, if that opinion were correct, then the PJ would have been guilty of a crime.<br /><br />2 “But it can be argued that the detective initially investigating later went on to write a book accusing them of lying and of hiding the corpse of their child. Yet he didn't have any logic or reason did he- just a suspicion and a few theories to chop and change to make it interesting.”<br /><br />It can be argued indeed. Were such arguments of sufficient strength in law, the detective could have been considered guilty of a crime of libel (“… accusing them of lying and of hiding the corpse of their child.”). Consequently, the McCanns might’ve had a case in libel against the detective. Having received arguably the best legal advice available, they chose not to sue for libel. They sued for damages instead. Perhaps they should have consulted you, comrade, and sued for libel???<br /><br />3 “So, I don't think their suspicions about the PJ are totally devoid of reason.”<br /><br />You are free to think whatever you like comrade. What seems apparent is that you arbitrarily give credence to the McCanns‘ suspicions while refusing to consider Amaral’s.<br /><br />28.12 @03:54<br /><br />“We're stepping into 2018 now and nothing's happened.”!<br /><br />And..?<br /><br />(One among many)<br /> United States House Select Committee on Assassinations [1979!]: [JFK was] “probably assassinated [in 1963!!!] as a result of a conspiracy”. Or do you give credence to ‘the magic bullet’ hypothesis?<br /><br />Happy New Year, comrade!<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com