tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post4322928194062796699..comments2024-02-04T19:08:45.476+00:00Comments on CRISTOBELL UNDECIDED: NOT BELIEVING DOESN'T EQUAL HATERosalinda Huttonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comBlogger83125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-6538686890539428982017-09-01T14:19:46.411+01:002017-09-01T14:19:46.411+01:00I agree with you Anonymous 3:00 I can not understa...I agree with you Anonymous 3:00 I can not understand why people can not respect other opinions, personally the cadaver dog sealed my opinion but I like to read all points of view as sometimes someone will write something that really makes me think. <br /><br />I do believe that if he Portuguese police had been left alone to get on with the job the case would have been resolved a long time ago and the public would have forgotten about it by now.<br /><br />From the video footage and photos I only see a happy and loved little girl and proud parents, I don't like the makeup photo but that is my opinion and I don't want to speculate.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-65201582512491651862017-08-29T20:35:55.028+01:002017-08-29T20:35:55.028+01:00@ Ros 20:13
So you agree with 14:36 "a suspi...@ Ros 20:13<br /><br />So you agree with 14:36 "a suspicious cop who has no corroborating evidence and was removed from the case"<br /><br />It is an accurate description of amaral.<br /><br />Sir Alec is an expert in DNA forensics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-82389367320455730542017-08-29T20:13:48.960+01:002017-08-29T20:13:48.960+01:00That was my point 18:07 ;)That was my point 18:07 ;)Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-61576004890737099482017-08-29T19:50:07.833+01:002017-08-29T19:50:07.833+01:00Hear hear. One day Portugal too will join the 21st...Hear hear. One day Portugal too will join the 21st century. I hope they bring that nutty judge who wants libel laws removed from the statutes with them. I don't know what's worse, they're legal system or their policing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-85441346212358763692017-08-29T19:23:08.870+01:002017-08-29T19:23:08.870+01:00Many thanks for your very thoughtful post 03:00, y...Many thanks for your very thoughtful post 03:00, your words really do mean a lot to me. I have to assure you I had a real crisis of conscience in reaching the conclusions I did. I examined the case very carefully from a 'pro' perspective. In fact in those early days, I probably gave them much fodder. <br /><br />It isn't nice to think badly of someone, and it's something I am always very hesitant to do, I always look for reasons and excuses for them. Probably why I spent 20+ years as a doormat. <br /><br />I'm glad that you feel comfortable in posting here - that's the ambience I was going for! I agree, trying to understand the other person's side, is the only way you can have civil and cordial, debate, and of course debate is a learning experience, that's why I like to have interaction with my readers. <br /><br />Admitting when I am wrong has never been a problem for me. it's usually followed by a 'well I never'. Life is a learning process, if we are lucky, we will learn something new every day. Given the choice, I would prefer to be wrong about Madeleine's disappearance. I want to find something that would convince me once and for all that the parents weren't involved. <br /><br />I feel as though I am having those same religious arguments I would have in my head as a child. I need something tangible before I can believe. <br /><br />But in any event thank you very much for your comments 03:00. I'm not sure what I wanted this blog to turn into, but it has kind of turned out how I would have liked, had I made a plan! <br />I'm a very reluctant rule maker or enforcer, usually appealing to a poster's better nature (if they have one)does the trick. I have always thought it possible for both sides to come to the table 03:00. <br /><br />Whatever the outcome, I hope common sense and compassion prevails, real people are involved and I think some lose track of that, especially on the forums. In their own heads, at least, they have dehumanised them, and that's where it becomes scarey. <br />Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-28153801382881238852017-08-29T18:07:52.832+01:002017-08-29T18:07:52.832+01:00@ Ros 17:49
Amaral would not "be called as t...@ Ros 17:49<br /><br />Amaral would not "be called as the forensics expert for the prosecution?".<br /><br />He is not an expert in forensics.<br /><br />If the Mccanns are taken to court Amaral would not appear as a witness at all - he was co-ordinator and not an investigator. I am sure the Portuguese authorities would want to keep him as far away from court as possible,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-76362789134417389852017-08-29T17:49:36.579+01:002017-08-29T17:49:36.579+01:0014:36. How likely do you think it is that Goncalo...14:36. How likely do you think it is that Goncalo Amaral will be called as the forensics expert for the prosecution? Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-89082096487611016222017-08-29T14:43:29.608+01:002017-08-29T14:43:29.608+01:00@Anonymous at 03:00
Well said.
I believe Kate an...@Anonymous at 03:00<br /><br />Well said.<br /><br />I believe Kate and Gerry McCann are, directly or indirectly, responsible for Madeleine’s death. The McCanns did not kill her but they concealed the body. However, I don’t believe they are involved in her complete disappearance.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-30051682660920261932017-08-29T14:36:35.966+01:002017-08-29T14:36:35.966+01:00http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/invento...http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/inventor-of-dna-fingerprint-testing-warns-flaw-could-lead-to-miscarriages-of-justice-544959.html<br /><br />Still a hell of a lot more professional than Amaral's argument . Who has the best credentials to comment on DNA, a suspicious cop who has no corroborating evidence and was removed from the case or the man who pioneered the technique and revolutionised crime detection ? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-2667681049694335252017-08-29T14:14:29.958+01:002017-08-29T14:14:29.958+01:00Nice use of 'anti' rather than 'hate&#...Nice use of 'anti' rather than 'hate'. Unfortunately it isn't accurate. Haven't you read much of the blog ? You either fall in line with the blogs real agenda or her and her little minions shout and scream. They don't present anything clever as an argument though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-83266216514035418152017-08-29T13:53:15.958+01:002017-08-29T13:53:15.958+01:00Ross, you posted earlier, "I find it morally ...Ross, you posted earlier, "I find it morally abhorrent that Gerry and Kate have been able to control the flow of news with constant threats of legal action. And it is morally abhorrent that they are able to prevent the UK citizens from buying and reading GA's book in English." <br />Well, the reason that publishers will not publish Amaral's book in the UK is because libel laws in the UK are much more protective of the subject of the written material. In the UK, proof would be required by any court to back up Amaral's claims and, because there is no such proof, whoever published his book would be likely to be sued for a considerable amount of money. The Portuguese libel laws are much softer and focus more on the individual's freedom to write what they want about a subject than the subject's rights to privacy or the requirement to back up allegations with actual proof. In other words, if I wanted to write a book that alleged that the Queen of England had arranged for the contract killing of a love child produced from a one night stand with Saddam Hussein, then I'd be wise to publish that book in Portugal rather than in the UK. <br />Consequently, if you want to make money out of publishing defamatory material that doesn't have to be proven, then you choose a country with soft libel laws to do it in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-68923771901962175982017-08-29T11:47:58.942+01:002017-08-29T11:47:58.942+01:00Anonymous 28 August 2017 at 22:16
“And he [Sir Al...Anonymous 28 August 2017 at 22:16<br /><br />“And he [Sir Alec Jeffreys] offered to support a defence of the parents in this.”<br /><br />Perhaps not quite:<br /><br />http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6992372.stm<br /><br />“<b>The inventor of DNA fingerprinting has offered to act as an expert witness in the Madeleine McCann case.</b>”<br /><br />“In an exclusive interview with the BBC's Newsnight programme, Sir Alec said there could be a potential problem in assigning a profile to Madeleine given that all other members of her family would have been in the car.<br /> <br />"DNA testing seeks to establish whether DNA sample A from a crime scene, came or did not come from individual B," he said.<br /><br />“So if you get a match there's very strong evidence that it did come from B.<br /> <br />"It is then up to investigators, the courts and all the rest of it to work out whether that connection is relevant or not.<br /><br />"DNA doesn't have the words innocence or guilt in it - that is a legal concept. What it seeks to establish is connections and identifications."“<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-4088988211506295012017-08-29T10:24:21.295+01:002017-08-29T10:24:21.295+01:00John100 29 August 2017 at 10:11
Not at all, John1...John100 29 August 2017 at 10:11<br /><br />Not at all, John100, you are always welcome.<br /><br />Respect.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-56438717317152594982017-08-29T10:11:14.058+01:002017-08-29T10:11:14.058+01:00Thanks T@02:15 for clearing that up for me. At the...Thanks T@02:15 for clearing that up for me. At the back of my mind I read somewhere that perhaps it wasn't a Ltd company. Again many thanks.John100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-39194691068550597822017-08-29T09:14:01.796+01:002017-08-29T09:14:01.796+01:00Here you go Ros:
"Expose
27 August at 05:03 ...Here you go Ros:<br /><br />"Expose<br />27 August at 05:03 ·<br /><br />If anyone has any screenshots old or new of abuse they have received via Team McCann please send via message on this page and admin will post for you starting from Tuesday. Many thanks."<br />https://www.facebook.com/McCanntrolls/<br /><br /><br />Your opportunity to share the abuse you received from "team Mccann"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-10715146733563861832017-08-29T03:00:49.864+01:002017-08-29T03:00:49.864+01:00I agree that free speech should never be under any...I agree that free speech should never be under any threat. However, that's also the reason that your site is the only "anti" McCann site that I ever bother to read. You see, I don't agree that the McCanns had anything to do with the disappearance of Madeleine, but I don't feel that I will be abused by you for saying so. You permit all opinions on your site, and I think that is what truly represents free speech. I am interested in your opinions and enjoy the way they are presented. That doesn't mean I have to agree with them; they present me with challenging thoughts that I then have to analyse in the context of my own beliefs about this situation. That's the way arguments work in the university system: One academic has one view and another has another view. However, they don't hurl abuse at the person with the opposing view. They stick to the argument and use the opposing view as further information to present and give thought to their own view. I respect your right to believe that the McCanns had something to do with the disappearance of Madeleine. It's your point of view, and after all, it's your blog. So, you can write what you please. However, I don't think you are nasty in the way that you present your opinions, and that's the difference between you and some of the others that are "anti" McCann.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-28509660906747577602017-08-29T02:15:27.540+01:002017-08-29T02:15:27.540+01:00John100 29 August 2017 at 00:54
http://www.findma...John100 29 August 2017 at 00:54<br /><br />http://www.findmadeleine.com/about_the_campaign/<br /><br />“<b>Madeleine's Fund<br /><br />About the Fund</b><br /><br />"Us" and "we" refers to Leaving <b>No Stone Unturned Limited</b>, a not-for-profit company, <b>aka Madeleine's Fund</b>, which has been established to find Madeleine McCann, support her family and bring her abductors to justice. The Fund is following best practice governance procedures as set out in the Good Governance Code for the Voluntary and Community Sector.”<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-57002530665318595532017-08-29T00:54:39.475+01:002017-08-29T00:54:39.475+01:00It's not the first time The McCanns have been ...It's not the first time The McCanns have been ripped off by organisations or individuals investigating/ looking for Madeleine. You would think that with the high profile connections someone would have said don't trust these people. Instead the taxpayers have been ripped off due to Op Grange. Now I have no problems with SY looking into this case and rightly so, but it has to come a time when SY say look there's nothing that we can do at this moment unless something comes up. Also as with any company the accounts should be transparent and available for inspection by the authorities. I believe that the fund in question is not a limited company so therefore The McCanns will be liable for everything.John100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-54579350725190924592017-08-28T22:43:27.682+01:002017-08-28T22:43:27.682+01:00GM was on a QUANGO that researched radiation and i...GM was on a QUANGO that researched radiation and it's effects on childen. He's a cardiologist so it seems reasonable enough that someone of that profession would have some useful observations to make . Anything nuclear / radiation is usually important to Governments in areas of energy and money. A thorny issue like that has always needed careful management ( bell pottinger ?). We only have to look back to when mobile phones were taking over people lives to recall all the trouble around England from neighbourhoods objecting to having masts nstalled nearby. Gordon Brown was no doubt interested in the whole area (through his brothers connection to EDF) as he knew he would be PM sson, depsite the so-called ballot to choose between four MPs . Out of all of this, what links those relationships and research to Madeleine's disappearnace and alleged cover up of where her body was dumped ? I get the feeling you're implying GM was calling in favours( or blackmailing).That he knew of 'sensitive' areas that aren't supposed to go public . Am i right ?<br /><br />I think areas such as the Lisbon Treaty, the EU votes, the imprisonment of Portugal's former PM and the investigations that were underway in the background in 2007 into a number of big name (UK)politicians and their 'proclivities'.That's where the real leverage would be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-75859013132465375162017-08-28T22:16:46.464+01:002017-08-28T22:16:46.464+01:00'' I believe there is a new test for DNA t...'' I believe there is a new test for DNA that can detect very low copy DNA it was used in a recent case ''<br /><br />Well, if the PJ and OG believe it too we're laughing aren't we. Unless of course it further supports the current position of it not being significant enough.<br /><br />If you want to believe Sky news or their shills, fair enough. They're not forensics experts, the just talk crap for a living. That says it all . Rupert Murdoch may think his old network are running things and, to a degree, he's right. But for the science I'll listen to Sir Alec Jeffreys for now. He wasn't knighted for nothing. And he offered to support a defence of the parents in this. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-25537252615798682442017-08-28T21:19:05.106+01:002017-08-28T21:19:05.106+01:00Anonymous28 August 2017 at 19:04
@ Anonymous28 Aug...Anonymous28 August 2017 at 19:04<br />@ Anonymous28 August 2017 at 16:05<br /><br />The forensics lab in Birmingham were wrong about the findings and the police were right then. Is that what you're trying to sell ? Does that 'fit' better ? Maybe the 'hatred' of the McCanns which you're also trying to sell is more to do with the refusal of Amaral and the many pro Amaral shills flooding the internet to accept this fact.That's what it is by the way, a fact. If Amaral made the right call the case would have been closed years ago.<br /><br />Remember the Sky report stating the DNA was a 100% match later this statement was backtracked , then some FSL mouth piece came on tv and started blagging about it could be any one of our DNA etc , I believe there is a new test for DNA that can detect very low copy DNA it was used in a recent case Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-83097270755682317812017-08-28T21:18:37.613+01:002017-08-28T21:18:37.613+01:00Anon 20.16
"Nobody will be put on trial for ...Anon 20.16<br /><br />"Nobody will be put on trial for this . You don't stifle an investigation for over ten years unless there's a pretty big and nasty can of worms attached to it"<br /><br />I've found this website that goes into great detail with regard to Gerry McCann's connection with Gordon Brown and his brother, Bell Pottinger and COMARE, the Government quango that was looking into the effects of radiation on children.<br /><br />http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3861.0<br /><br />(Ros, please delete this post if not appropriate)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-13408515817467961132017-08-28T20:27:50.136+01:002017-08-28T20:27:50.136+01:00''everyone is terrified of them including ...''everyone is terrified of them including the British establishment,''<br /><br />Seriously ? The British Establishment are 'terrified' of the McCanns ? Why ?<br /><br />''After all, why would an innocent mother of a missing child not answer all questions to help the PJ''<br /><br />Solicitor's instructions maybe ? A more relevant question would be why the 48 questions didn't explore the likelihood of suspicious people hanging around and asked things concerned with Madeleine's relationship with her brother and sister and Kate's dreams .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-26122188178002126372017-08-28T20:16:17.832+01:002017-08-28T20:16:17.832+01:00If he didn't complete his investigation nobody...If he didn't complete his investigation nobody knows if it was the right call. They took him off it, not the whole force. I don't doubt that Brown had a big part in stifling the investigation, which is surprising as he wasn't a Home or Foreign Secretary at the time, or PM . I don't think nuclear power stations or cancer had anything to do with it. This was just an abduction case officially. Unofficially the child was dead according to Amaral's various works in progress. <br /><br />Nobody will be put on trial for this . You don't stifle an investigation for over ten years unless there's a pretty big and nasty can of worms attached to it . The McCanns are middle class and successful career people. There's thousands of them all over the place, they're not powerful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-54862104124733643862017-08-28T19:53:11.028+01:002017-08-28T19:53:11.028+01:00Amaral made the right call but he was taken off th...Amaral made the right call but he was taken off the case before he could even finish his findings. Perhaps he got too near the truth, who knows, but it may come to light one day. It may have been Gordon Brown who had him taken off the case due to his interference and his connections to GM and GM's dealings with nuclear power stations and their affect on child cancers.<br /><br />Hopefully the truth will be known one day and a poor little girl who has been forgotten and abandoned by the PTB should see someone made responsible for her death/disappearance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com