tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post6587163779423629945..comments2024-02-04T19:08:45.476+00:00Comments on CRISTOBELL UNDECIDED: BURIED BY THE ANTI'S - Banned for having an opposing viewRosalinda Huttonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comBlogger283125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-74967835411027097192018-03-31T21:11:44.524+01:002018-03-31T21:11:44.524+01:00I notice that you've made the usual Orwellian ...I notice that you've made the usual Orwellian accusation of "homophobia" against Tony Bennett. Here is his reply to this accusation, and one which I and many others fully agree with. So please stop trying to close down debate by attaching nasty labels to anyone who doesn't support your subjective views: "On the accusation that I am homophobic, I reply that my views on homosexuality, since becoming a Christian in recent years, is the orthodox Christian view. A view that is shared by tens if not hundreds of millions across the globe. To sum that up, we believe that God made us male and female to begin with and intended that sex be enjoyed within marriage. I do not of course go around branding homosexuals as ‘sinners’, as some of your posters have falsely claimed. On the contrary, I brand myself as a sinner. I accept the words of Christ as recorded in the Gospel: “They that be whole have no need of a physician”. No one can become a Christian unless they believe they have sinned. <br /><br />For the record, I do not ‘fear’ homosexuals, and in general I believe in the philosophy of ‘live and let live’, so long as no-one is harmed. I do not support ‘gay marriage’ nor ‘gay adoption’. Neither do I support the active promotion of homosexuality as an alternative way of life in primary schools. Apart from those view, I share the view that homosexuals should not suffer discrimination. I do not in any way campaign against homosexuality nor in my professional life have I ever discriminated against any homosexual, on the contrary, especially during my 14 years as a Welfare Rights Adviser, I helped many."Steghorn21https://www.blogger.com/profile/13579646340243788933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-73192733749526917692017-05-03T23:08:23.746+01:002017-05-03T23:08:23.746+01:00I have been banned after just asking questions, th...I have been banned after just asking questions, the administrator came across as a real bully! So set up my own forum and will ASK questions until I get answers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-3588327929209802272017-05-03T23:03:12.642+01:002017-05-03T23:03:12.642+01:00Oh thought it was just me....I was banned the day ...Oh thought it was just me....I was banned the day I joined and responded to the Administrator asking for an explanation. I received such a rude response and said I had been "given a second chance" but didn't listen so banned. No temporary ban for me.....Gawd I left the playground & the bullies years ago. I've now set up my own forum and will ASK the questions through that! <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-62066427809451241502017-03-21T20:51:52.102+00:002017-03-21T20:51:52.102+00:00There are no antis. Just people who wish for a lit...There are no antis. Just people who wish for a little girl to have a decent send off. No antis, just pro Madeleines. Pro the truths.Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08373346322362527197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-73499058641803464232016-05-26T13:07:40.519+01:002016-05-26T13:07:40.519+01:00To Tony Bennet and the TCMMMadmin who banned me,
...To Tony Bennet and the TCMMMadmin who banned me,<br /> <br /><br />Ironically before I was respectfull and posted <br /><br />substantive content and I got banned so this will be a <br /><br />rant.<br /><br /><br />I joined TCMMM with all the right intentions to sincerely <br /><br />discuss all aspects of the case including(O naive, <br /><br />deluded me) the silencing of opponents like Tony Bennet.<br /><br />The post that got me banned was a valid question to <br /><br />Bennet who it seems can't handle thinking , intelligent <br /><br />people around him.<br /><br />No those are banned so the sycophanct, shit munching <br /><br />crowd can continue to sing his praises and treat him like <br /><br />some sort of martyr.<br /><br />My question is still valid as ever :<br /> <br /><br />"Why did he ever agree to the initial (2009)court <br /><br />undertaking of not speaking on the Mcann case publicly to <br /><br />then go back on it resulting in his 2012 conviction for <br /><br />contempt of court?"<br /><br />Mind you, I do not accuse him of anything, collusion or <br /><br />bad faith like some paranoid followers of his have seem <br /><br />to interpreted my question.<br /><br />Rather, it seems he is too incompetent in law as a <br /><br />exbarrister to realise that had he not pledged him to <br /><br />such an undertaking, he could not have been found quilty <br /><br />of comtempt of court.<br /><br />So why did he sign the undertaking?<br /><br />maybe, as i read in one of posts, the undertaking was <br /><br />defined to broadly and vaguely resulting in him being in <br /><br />breach of it unless he totally refrained from commenting <br /><br />in public on the case, something he claims he never <br /><br />pledged himself too.<br /><br />In which case I refer to him being incompetent to read <br /><br />what he pledges himself to.<br /><br /><br />No I fear the reason is different: in court he <br /><br />acknowledges he is slanderous and libelious and profusely <br /><br />apoligezes to the Mccanss only to turn around and present <br /><br />himself as a martyr on the forum.<br /><br />His tactics on the forum of instantly banning members who <br /><br />say anything that displeases the selfproclaimed prophet <br /><br />of truth remind me of st Augustin story of the pirate and <br /><br />the emperor:<br /><br />Yet here we have a pirate not so wise who insists on <br /><br />presenting himself as the just truthseeker bemoaning the <br /><br />stonewalling tactics of the mighty CarterRucks and <br /><br />Clarence Mitchels of the world who hide behind their <br /><br />positions of respect and officialdom whilst he employs <br /><br />the same tactics on TCMMM.<br /><br />I shudder to think how Bennet would treat those that <br /><br />disagree if god forbid he had his selfdeclared enemy's <br /><br />means at his disposal.<br /><br />Luckily, without them and more importantly without a <br /><br />shred of the guiding principles of free debate and <br /><br />exchange of ideas, him and his ilk are nothing but a <br /><br />bunch of trolls who, like their mythological counterpart <br /><br />freeze when they dare step in the light of day or rather <br /><br />a courtroom.<br /><br />In conclusion I'm glad Carter Ruck tore you a new arse <br /><br />hole after they 'silenced you'and you should be too <br /><br />because this way you can continue speaking from one as <br /><br />you have done in the past.<br /><br /><br />Sincerely<br />Soedar <br />soedarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-75447816382914887922016-05-26T12:32:05.200+01:002016-05-26T12:32:05.200+01:00I came here after just being banned there with no ...I came here after just being banned there with no explanation other than being disruptive...I was categorically NOT<br />I did asked Mr HighandMighty one critical, valid and respectful question about his contempt conviction<br /><br />Suddenly the trolls came out the woodwork attacking though I posed a question to him directly. couple hours later, i was banned. critical exchange of ideas my ass, praise Bennet as some martyr for truth and thats that, otherwise immediate ban. My question to him?:<br /><br />Why did he ever agree to the initial (2009)court undertaking of not speaking on the Mcann case to then go back on it resulting in his 2012 conviction for contempt of court not libel?<br /> soedarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-79627387244236722832015-06-20T17:03:25.912+01:002015-06-20T17:03:25.912+01:00Interesting comments. I too have been banned! Ha! ...Interesting comments. I too have been banned! Ha! Actually I think it's quite funny and I should wear the badge with honour. I recognize many of the names on here of others who were also banned. And I agree with many of the comments about the stirrers. The forum has actually become pretty toxic. Any new ideas or theories are rubbished. Just when a thread gets interesting one of the stirrers derails it. And posters who think out of the box or challenge TB sooner or later get goaded/attacked/called a nutter. When they remonstrate they then get banned. This is the modus operandi. I hung on in there despite the attacks but still got banned in the end probably because I challenged TB too much. The forum was actually getting a bit boring as most of the good posters had left and TB was becoming absurdly dictatorial. Any time a discussion started getting interesting it would be derailed or the original poster would be attacked as a nutter. They simply will not allow new ideas or proper debate and are incredibly rude to certain posters. Still, from the posts above it would appear that the 'TB effect' has caused several other good forums to shrivel up and die! I agree that Candyfloss was a good moderator. Once she left things went downhill. It's actually quite amusing to watch the antics of about half a dozen members there whose mission seems to be to prevent any debate or deepening of knowledge and understanding of the case. They round on anyone who threatens their agenda like a pack of hyenas and get away with astonishingly vitriolic attacks which the mods chose to ignore. Then when their 'victim' counter-attacks they accuse him or her of doing what they themselves were doing and ban them. Very similar to the Team McCann modus operandi in fact. The culprits have been accurately named in some of the posts above I think. Actually it's good to have a break. I was spending far too much time on there and my ban is their loss as it rather perfectly illustrates just what is wrong with the forum. An own goal in fact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-21176782683958075232014-10-13T12:20:21.785+01:002014-10-13T12:20:21.785+01:00You are still using this case to escape your own l...You are still using this case to escape your own living hell, as was Brenda Leyland. Obsessing over a matter that you really don't know anything about, is not a solution for mental anguish. Also, Amaral is not an ethical human being. Your mind is playing tricks on you. In his own 'documentary', he blatently contradicts himself. He states that Madeleine died when she fell behind the couch and that Gerry found her and immediately carried her dead body down to the beach. Later, Amaral states that the McCanns hid Madeleine's body in the wardrobe (as per the dog alerts). When? If the body was immediately carried to the beach? Amaral is a fraud, who doesn't even believe his own story. If there was any substantial evidence against the McCanns, they would have gone to trial. They are not part of the British establishment. Listen to how they talk! They are working class kids, smart enough to get into med school. The establishment does not put itself out on a limb for a couple of medicos working for the British National Health. Get real, Rosalinda. This is a really unhealthy obsession for people such as yourself and Brenda. Both smart enough to seek help for your real issues. What will your life be about if this mystery is solved in your life- time and you are wrong? If I'm wrong, I will be dismayed and look back at how I reached my conclusions. But I won't have devoted all my time, and the establishment of such a detailed blog over a fantasy. I think you need to see a good shrink. Nothing wrong with that. I've used good shrinks myself to prevent me from living a vicarious life based on delusions and obsessions. That's what this case is for you, and that's a fact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-62094426303634040812014-10-13T11:14:24.077+01:002014-10-13T11:14:24.077+01:00Rosalinda - The mere fact that you, as an adult, w...Rosalinda - The mere fact that you, as an adult, were prepared to accept your mother's 'seeing through the McCanns' straight away says it all. I too suffer from depression (and so-called Bi-Polar "2). My mother has an enormous amount of inaccurate perceptions, and I'm sure yours does too. Personally, I have spent a great deal of time looking at the McCanns, and I don't believe they are hiding anything. There entire focus is on finding (or finding out what happened to) Madeleine. Prior to this event, they did not seek the limelight in any aspect of their lives. They are articulate and very focussed in a way that most people are not, but that does not make your mother right. You need to grow up and accept that your mummy's simple ignorance is something to be questioned, rather than offering her a child's acceptance of her (I would presume uneducated and uninformed) opinion. This has happened before in history (Lindy Chamberlain, for example), when laypeople made massive sweeping generalisations, only to be proven wrong. The mystery of Madeleine McCann will be solved - maybe not for many years - but if it happens in your lifetime and you are proven wrong, what will your life be about then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-89733525394747726982014-09-29T10:05:20.529+01:002014-09-29T10:05:20.529+01:00Just been banned from Jillhavern site Judge for yo...Just been banned from Jillhavern site Judge for yourselves in the Name of Markus 2,<br />disagreeing with TB on the Smith issue. very odd imo for a site in favor of looking for Madelines abductors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-64342386727264945652014-08-22T22:31:27.217+01:002014-08-22T22:31:27.217+01:00I have read all this with interest.
I too was rec...I have read all this with interest.<br /><br />I too was recently banned (permanently) from the Havern forum (I posted there as NobodyThereEither) for posting that the forum was rapidly losing any credibility it ever had.<br /><br />I posted that partly as a response to the content and tone of many of TB's posts (and the posts of his disciples), and partly to the banning/apparently voluntarily departure of intelligent posters such as Russian Doll.<br /><br />I was then subjected to a lengthy personal attack by TB, then banned.<br /><br />It seems to me that all those disagreeing with TB's views are being lumped together as some sort of threat to the forum. <br /><br />Rational discussion and analysis are not welcomed. Pointing out that it is not helpful to state opinion as fact is not welcomed. <br /><br />What on earth newcomers make of it all, God knows. <br /><br />Another member of that forum approached admin on my behalf and was told that admin did not believe I was who I said I was. I was able to prove my age and identity as I run events locally and have a website on which my recent significant birthday was mentioned. That made no difference. <br /><br />The whole thing is ridiculous. <br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-54737329842417848222014-08-22T21:48:48.076+01:002014-08-22T21:48:48.076+01:00Only an imbecile would believe that TB isn't t...Only an imbecile would believe that TB isn't the admin of the JH forum. Jackboot Bennett and his many socks rule JH with an iron fist and bans anyone who disagrees with him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-52673566115316524962014-08-22T03:59:58.830+01:002014-08-22T03:59:58.830+01:00The mad monk :))
One has to acknowledge that he, t...The mad monk :))<br />One has to acknowledge that he, the McCanns and Mr Hall scorn the Smiths and consider that Smithman is nothing but a fake. Great minds think alike perhaps ?Anne A. Corrêa-Guedeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17652561394570212256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-12516339094098197452014-08-22T00:39:31.110+01:002014-08-22T00:39:31.110+01:00There's a newer thread. Cristobell has said:
P...There's a newer thread. Cristobell has said:<br />Please post new comments on this thread, so they can be seen instantly. :)Curiousernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-15759337952815519492014-08-22T00:33:09.491+01:002014-08-22T00:33:09.491+01:00While I'd love to be on a forum with all the r...While I'd love to be on a forum with all the reasonable people from the JillHavern forum, starting up a forum can be a trap. There is an enormous amount of work in running a forum and it could be one way to nobble you Cristobell. If you are tied up in petty disputes and name-calling you can't be writing on the case.<br /><br />This thread is fascinating. The writing styles are revealing. I might go through and try to match up posts with personas. Curiousernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-64332457537228821112014-08-21T21:34:51.049+01:002014-08-21T21:34:51.049+01:00Hope you are Ok as the overwhelming support must ...Hope you are Ok as the overwhelming support must have floored you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-44427814689185105072014-08-21T18:45:58.775+01:002014-08-21T18:45:58.775+01:00it,s about the civil rights movement in the usa I ...it,s about the civil rights movement in the usa I believe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-15801226797491560152014-08-21T18:36:31.190+01:002014-08-21T18:36:31.190+01:00You'd wonder who is next with the libel action...You'd wonder who is next with the libel action. JH has nowhere to hide this time for blatantly supporting him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-52019223034454209392014-08-21T18:34:51.660+01:002014-08-21T18:34:51.660+01:00I think that's why only a handful of posters r...I think that's why only a handful of posters remain while the majority move along, always wondered that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-35882629960866953792014-08-21T17:49:25.595+01:002014-08-21T17:49:25.595+01:00I can confirm that they are read and on one occasi...I can confirm that they are read and on one occasion one sent to me was altered. Don't know by who but it is a fact. Don't know if it is just selected members or all. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-71294642491483021022014-08-21T17:42:19.866+01:002014-08-21T17:42:19.866+01:00Having now been accused of impersonating Martin Sm...Having now been accused of impersonating Martin Smith, I believe anything is possible JJ. Has he done a deal? I would have argued against that on the grounds that he is not very bright, but then again neither was Marcos Correia, so who knows. Why did McCanns pay £350,000 of their own costs - they won. <br /><br />You are right I think. Tony did not realise that A**** was only 12 years old, he assumed A**** was Mrs Smith. Tony's research may be voluminous but here it was fatally flawed. Which begs the question, how much more of his research is similarly flawed, and was it deliberate? How long exactly, has Tony been leading us all by the nose and in how many different areas?<br /><br />Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-4350287997388010752014-08-21T17:19:35.831+01:002014-08-21T17:19:35.831+01:00How do you know that private messages are being re...How do you know that private messages are being read by Admin? I will be very shocked if this is correct.Terrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-36052131582695751332014-08-21T16:27:42.962+01:002014-08-21T16:27:42.962+01:00So fucking obvious now, with this latest accusatio...So fucking obvious now, with this latest accusation of Cristobell being Martin Smith...Tony will do anything to win or keep the hearts of minds of the sleeple forum members who support or believe this bullshit.<br /><br />Not that I really care anymore, I can tell you for certain it wont be me being drafted to another of Tony's false crusades. Many of you will carry on throwing crumbs up at him like wedding confetti, whilst he like a fairy cake sits atop of the cakestand. Your all being suckered in....<br /><br />ChillyHeat...<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-85402473393695766122014-08-21T14:51:38.433+01:002014-08-21T14:51:38.433+01:00Can he prove that he has EVER paid the McCanns or ...Can he prove that he has EVER paid the McCanns or C-R? (apart from court costs as that he did pay)<br /><br />I think not hey Mr Bennett. A get out clause and a deal was struck before any hard cash was handed over.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-1874073280367200862014-08-21T13:35:11.279+01:002014-08-21T13:35:11.279+01:00Tony Bennett says Cristobell is impersonating Mar...Tony Bennett says Cristobell is impersonating Martin Smith!<br /><br />Tony Bennett is the gift that just keeps giving.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com