tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post1997110159932834061..comments2024-02-04T19:08:45.476+00:00Comments on CRISTOBELL UNDECIDED: LET'S STICK WITH THE REAL CRIMESRosalinda Huttonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comBlogger196125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-71094871727476746052017-01-24T13:59:14.731+00:002017-01-24T13:59:14.731+00:00@12:24
"Could you be so kind as to confirm t...@12:24<br /><br />"Could you be so kind as to confirm that you find the link self-contradictory, as opposed to inconsistent, and perhaps provide a relevant citation?"<br /><br />Here you are:<br /><br />"there is no actual evidence that the PJ didn't take the photo, is there?"<br /><br />Followed, eventually, by:<br /><br />"They had already provided the picture to the police"<br /><br />Which, if correct, rules out the PJ's having taken it.<br /><br />"Would you not agree that it is WHEN the photograph was taken which is crucial, not WHO took it?"<br /><br />Yes I would, but I believe 'author identity' helps determine the timing in this case.<br /><br />"However, the news reader might have been referring to ‘facts’ in their everyday meaning"<br /><br />I take your point regarding facts being relative, historically speaking. Perhaps I should have clarified that the regional news reader was in fact discussing an aspect of the McCann case. The broadcast was also quite a few years ago.<br /><br />"BTW, I favour Dr Roberts’ conjecture that the pjs had been photographed before the ‘abduction’."<br /><br />So do I.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-37152622684715568512017-01-24T12:24:35.546+00:002017-01-24T12:24:35.546+00:00Anonymous 23 January 2017 at 22:40
I am very grat...Anonymous 23 January 2017 at 22:40<br /><br />I am very grateful for your comments.<br /><br />You are clearly not Anon 22 January 2017 at 23:32 for whom the link was intended as a reminder that there exists a critique of some of Dr Roberts’ conjectures.<br /><br />“If you read your 'for instance' link carefully you'll find it is both self-aggrandizing and self-contradictory.”<br /><br />I wouldn’t mind “self-aggrandizing” but I would mind “self –contradictory”. I did read the link carefully, I’ll do so again and get back to you regarding the latter.<br /><br />Could you be so kind as to confirm that you find the link self-contradictory, as opposed to inconsistent, and perhaps provide a relevant citation?<br /><br />“Furthermore, according to this blogger, "It's not really important who created the photo which was released to the press."<br /><br />Would you not agree that it is WHEN the photograph was taken which is crucial, not WHO took it?<br /><br />“A statement which ranks alongside that of the BBC regional news reader, who pompously announced:<br /><br />'Facts can be changed.'”<br /><br />I shouldn’t really comment on something taken out of context. However, the news reader might have been referring to ‘facts’ in their everyday meaning, which has no exact definition, without giving a thought to what they were was reading – many a news reader’s malady. Historically, many ‘facts’ have been ‘changed’: the Earth is no longer flat nor is it the centre of our star system.<br /><br />“Idiots.”<br /><br />Well, I wouldn’t expect philosophers and/or logicians to read us ‘the news’, would you?<br /><br />BTW, I favour Dr Roberts’ conjecture that the pjs had been photographed before the ‘abduction’.<br /><br />T <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-32218079136480380812017-01-24T12:00:08.887+00:002017-01-24T12:00:08.887+00:00In particular on 19th June '07, the day McCann...In particular on 19th June '07, the day McCann lost his wallet at Waterloo (or was that Whitehall?).<br /><br />With CEOP at Belgravia and the fund lawyers in the City of London (Cannon Street), what was he doing at Waterloo?<br /><br />Answer: A meeting at the FCO (confirmed subsequently by Clarence Mitchell).<br /><br />That very day (19 June) he 'blogs': "The role for Kate and I in the campaign will not be nearly be so public".<br /><br />A decision arrived at by whom exactly?<br /><br />The following day (20th June) he 'blogs': "It was agreed in principle to appoint a family spokesperson who will act, not just for Kate and I, but also on behalf of the extended family who have been liaising with the media".<br /><br />But FCO appointee Clarence Mitchell had been on board a month already, described in the Sun (24 May) as 'The McCann's Spokesman'!<br /><br />A year later he brags (to Nicky Campbell, Radio Five Live Breakfast, 1.5.08): "We have contact with the Foreign Office, errm... from predominantly a consular basis."<br /><br />Oops!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-14805277983695655442017-01-24T08:47:55.798+00:002017-01-24T08:47:55.798+00:00"During the day of her disappearance they had..."During the day of her disappearance they had all gone for a walk, played tennis, and taken some more snapshots for the family album before relaxing by the pool."<br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-457414/The-picture-Madeleine-Just-hours-later-gone.html<br /><br />Some more snapshots?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-28162296597944414312017-01-24T08:34:19.747+00:002017-01-24T08:34:19.747+00:00@18:07 (23.1)
"[...] the FCO served to relay...@18:07 (23.1)<br /><br />"[...] the FCO served to relay information/instructions to him, not take instruction from him."<br /><br />Spot-on!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-81077775413315993062017-01-24T01:56:26.916+00:002017-01-24T01:56:26.916+00:00Anonymous 23 January 2017 at 18:07, 22:23, 22:26
...Anonymous 23 January 2017 at 18:07, 22:23, 22:26<br /><br />Good posts, well put. Concise and sweet.<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-72487376072536224672017-01-24T01:02:50.315+00:002017-01-24T01:02:50.315+00:00thanks for the enlightenment 'anonymous'( ...thanks for the enlightenment 'anonymous'( whoever you are, mysterious one )<br /><br />I can't believe I'm having to explain myself again. But I suppose I should....<br /><br />First, with the 'on the sauce' issue.I don't drink. I like a clear head.<br />With that bombshell out of the way, i'll continue..<br /><br />Did anyone who isn't wearing a rubber bracelet spot the 'i have no problem with Mr Average Jew' ? It doesn't seem like it. I have often defended critics of Jews ( apart from comedians because its only comedy).I've pointed out to people that they 'stick together' ( as most critics seem to point out) because that's what people are supposed to do.They have a community on a micro and macro level.They seem to experience their religion too and are passive wherever they are.They work from when the sparrows wake up until the moon wakes up later.What they have they earn.The same can be said of the Muslim.We're a Christian set of islands here.Christian.can we honestly say the same ? I don't care which branch of the christian tree you sit on, it's the same book and same tenets. But of the three religions mentioned only two is free of the begging bowl.it isn't the Christians despite valiant efforts by the salvation army and the like. When our society is free of the begging bowl, we can use the word 'community' again.<br /><br />I don't like oppression of any kind. In the 21st century you'd think we'd have evolved a bit further.I don't care if it's an adult over a child, a man over a woman, a nation over a nation. I'm no trippy hippie and i'm far from politically correct. I'm happy to get into somebody elses fight if they're on the wrong end of it. There should be peace in the world by now.But, alas, peace is bad for business. Ask Kennedy and John Lennon. Ask Martin Luther King. Gandhi even. You can't can you. Incidentally, oil ceased to be the unholy grail a few years ago. If it hadn't, we'd be liberating them in Iraq again.<br /><br />All men are equal on the planet. that's not hate speech, incidentally, I'm hoping you read 'men' as generic 'man' . Some may posture and assert themselves by force. Some may be too weak to stand up. That's psychology .<br />I note the ridiculous pleas to Ros to 'ban the anti-semite' ; the quoting of the rules regarding hate speech. I find that immature and shallow and, in my defence, incorrect. If I'm wrong I'll apologise when somebody quotes my hatred. The same goes for racism or any other 'ism'. I've been turned over a good few times here in dear old Blighty but i can't recall any of them being any other colour than white, straight and British. No Jew, no Muslim, no Hindu no black people and no women.Why would i hate any of them ? A good person is a good person and a bad person is a bad person. Give them time to reveal which they are before judging. I may have voiced something unpleasant about Trump and his roots. I'm hardly a lone voice in the wilderness there am i ? I actually found it funny that i was pounced on for pointing out his grandfather's making tax free illegal earnings from brothel-keeping was fine but don't criticise his religion.<br /><br />The bottom line is this. There are Jews and there are Zionists. I'm anti-Zionist. That doesn't mean anti-capitalist . it means anti-usury and anti-war . It means anti-enslavement and it means lover of freedom and a genuine democratic world . Incidentally, you know who dislikes the Zionists as much as I do ? I'll give you two clues : Not a western leader ; not from a christian or Muslim country.<br /><br />http://www.threeworldwars.com/zion.htm<br /><br /><br />ZiggySawdustnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-74395707136952350652017-01-23T22:40:11.870+00:002017-01-23T22:40:11.870+00:00@17:22
If you read your 'for instance' li...@17:22<br /><br />If you read your 'for instance' link carefully you'll find it is both self-aggrandizing and self-contradictory.<br /><br />Furthermore, according to this blogger, "It's not really important who created the photo which was released to the press."<br /><br />A statement which ranks alongside that of the BBC regional news reader, who pompously announced:<br /><br />'Facts can be changed.'<br /><br />Idiots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-56805714364081568322017-01-23T22:26:37.206+00:002017-01-23T22:26:37.206+00:00@23:32
"No the real conspiracy is led by Ben...@23:32<br /><br />"No the real conspiracy is led by Bennett..."<br /><br />Another authority on the subject, I see.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-22971616352832325992017-01-23T22:23:35.565+00:002017-01-23T22:23:35.565+00:00@21:20
Another deep thinker@21:20<br /><br />Another deep thinkerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-44687717077992935992017-01-23T21:20:58.610+00:002017-01-23T21:20:58.610+00:00anon 18.07 says:
"o what was their interest i...anon 18.07 says:<br />"o what was their interest in Madeleine McCann? Or were they primarily interested in someone/something else?"<br /><br />yep why not build an even bigger conspiracy. Another nutter.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-12867392534682541812017-01-23T21:20:20.836+00:002017-01-23T21:20:20.836+00:00No, I haven't. I've never blocked anyone ...No, I haven't. I've never blocked anyone on here. If their arguments are put across fairly reasonably, I will publish. I don't fear racist and misogynist words 21:00, I challenge them.Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-87717856093791916802017-01-23T21:09:41.270+00:002017-01-23T21:09:41.270+00:00"Hate speech, violent, or crude content
Blog..."Hate speech, violent, or crude content<br /><br />Blogger doesn’t remove blogs that contain insults or negative commentary.<br /><br />We do remove content that:<br /><br /> promotes hatred or violence against individuals or groups based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, nationality, veteran status, or sexual orientation/gender identity<br /> is shocking or graphic, without more context or commentary<br /> threatens others"<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-7630372650276506762017-01-23T21:00:41.779+00:002017-01-23T21:00:41.779+00:00Ros to clarify things - can you please confirm tha...Ros to clarify things - can you please confirm that the antisemite has been blocked from posting on your blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-79333911459638356342017-01-23T19:36:40.714+00:002017-01-23T19:36:40.714+00:00There won't be any censoring here JJ. I really...There won't be any censoring here JJ. I really hate when discussions are shut down because someone says something subversive. Is this 1984?<br /><br />I found Ziggy's hmm, racist views quite alarming. My first thoughts were, someone's been on the sauce. However, if I were a Jewish person, I would rather hear the arguments behind the bigotry than not, because it gives me an opportunity to shoot the argument down. <br /><br />I don't want to offend any of my Jewish readers, but I don't think they will be reaching for the smelling salts. The idea that we need to protected<br />from reading anything that might offend us is absurd. I have a personal rage against female Labour MPs at the moment for trying to bring in legislation to have words that might offend them removed the vernacular. Wtf? Now that's what I call pretentious. <br /><br />Everyone has the right to be offended JJ, but some people make it their life's work. I'm not going to publish abusive drivel JJ or anything threatening, but I would rather attempt to understand the other side's perspective, than censor it.<br /><br /><br />I happen to love Jewish people, especially in the entertainment world. And I thank all the Gods there may for all the huge advances we have enjoyed due to their work in science and discovery. They are not all bankers!<br /><br />I'm looking forward to the next epistle JJ. I enjoy the opportunity to face bigotry head on. I think we all a little too sensitive about we read or hear. Bigots become angry and enraged because they know no-one will listen to them. Isn't it better to hear their argument, and offer them alternate ways of thinking? Isn't that the point of discussion and debate? Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-52297581012949180342017-01-23T19:01:04.410+00:002017-01-23T19:01:04.410+00:00I may publish your posts Ziggy, but it doesn't...I may publish your posts Ziggy, but it doesn't mean I agree with them. I find it chilling to categorise people as a colour, or a religion or a race. A Muslim mother will weep for her lost child, just a Jewish or British mother. We are all human beings, we all live, love, breathe and die. <br /><br />Just as individuals it is pointless to blame our problems on the people around us, or those ruling us, the same works with nations. That the Jewish people have taken their traditional monetary skills global should be a good thing, yes? Isn't that what capitalism is built on?<br /><br />But here's a thing. Whilst the Jews may be the bankers, tis the Muslims who hold the world's wealth. Oil. You may like to take a look at the relationship between the Bush family and the Bin Ladens. <br /><br />I actually like and admire Jewish people, whilst wandering the earth, they have brought culture, art, science, enlightenment and a rib tickling sense of humour to the rest of us. Jerry Seinfeld is a God!Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-16068918516872798172017-01-23T18:30:51.285+00:002017-01-23T18:30:51.285+00:00@ Anonymous22 January 2017 at 23:32
No the real c...@ Anonymous22 January 2017 at 23:32<br /><br />No the real conspiracy is led by bennett and others saying that everyone who said they saw Madeleine during the week are in a massive cover-up conspiracy. bennett even wrote to another holiday guest there at the time and was told he has photos with Madeleine in the background.<br /><br />MurkyMac has proven nothing at all - not a single thing - oh apart from proving on video that the shutters can be lifted easily from outside.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-83028123101200837382017-01-23T18:07:32.969+00:002017-01-23T18:07:32.969+00:00@23:32
"after Sunday we have no independent ...@23:32<br /><br />"after Sunday we have no independent proof that Madeleine was alive. That makes the conspiracy much bigger than we all thought!"<br /><br />One advantage to wearing a tin-foil hat is that we don't have to stick our heads in the sand when it rains.<br /><br />Gerry McCann had a working relationship with the Foreign Office.<br /><br />So unless we believe in the tail wagging the dog, the FCO served to relay information/instructions to him, not take instruction from him.<br /><br />The FCO were also responsible for diplomatic initiatives being taken before Gerry made his first 'phone calls to the UK.<br /><br />The UK government are not noted for conspicuous interest in the well-being of holiday-making infants (Ask Kerry Needham).<br /><br />So what was their interest in Madeleine McCann? Or were they primarily interested in someone/something else?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-18888306066369394282017-01-23T17:22:30.705+00:002017-01-23T17:22:30.705+00:00Anonymous 22 January 2017 at 23:32
“Amaral's ...Anonymous 22 January 2017 at 23:32<br /><br />“Amaral's theory that Madeleine died after 6pm on Thursday simply cannot be right.”<br /><br />Provided several of Dr Martin Roberts’ assumptions are correct. For instance: http://randommomentsofutterstupidity.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/random-moment-no-3-pyjamagate.html<br /><br />“PeterMac has now demolished Kate's claim to have taken the Tennis Balls Photo…”<br /><br />“demolished”? Could you please post a link.<br /><br />“…the Last Photo was almost certainly taken on Sunday.”<br /><br />So it seems.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-84094494062940956512017-01-22T23:32:55.637+00:002017-01-22T23:32:55.637+00:00Back to Madeleine McCann, Ros, have you read Dr Ma...Back to Madeleine McCann, Ros, have you read Dr Martin Roberts' 'A Nightwear Job' yet? Once you do, you will realise that Amaral's theory that Madeleine died after 6pm on Thursday simply cannot be right. PeterMac has now demolished Kate's claim to have taken the Tennis Balls Photo - and the Last Photo was almost certainly taken on Sunday. That means that after Sunday we have no independent proof that Madeleine was alive. That makes the conspiracy much bigger than we all thought! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-51705798041131791112017-01-22T11:05:15.182+00:002017-01-22T11:05:15.182+00:00Ziggy the Bigot 19.08
It is so good of you to tel...Ziggy the Bigot 19.08<br /><br />It is so good of you to tell us you don't mind walking past Catholics.<br /><br />Most of us walking down the street do not care and do not give any persons religion a thought.<br />You can spot what religion a person has,it obviously matters.<br /><br />Why, it matters only to racists and bigots.<br /><br />You state you have only two posts to go before moving on. Is that the end of your contract or does Fiona and Rachael's handlers want their money back?<br />More lies Ziggy I have not called anyone killers<br />but YOU are a bullshitter of some magnitude.JJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-15820574352057607352017-01-21T23:44:29.848+00:002017-01-21T23:44:29.848+00:0015 January 2017 at 18:24
"Life's too shor...15 January 2017 at 18:24<br />"Life's too short - I'm out.<br />..Chez"<br /><br />The irony<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-89774381900316519302017-01-21T23:35:27.910+00:002017-01-21T23:35:27.910+00:00Good questions T.
1) In her parents’ (or one o...Good questions T. <br /> <br />1) In her parents’ (or one of the parents’) presence I think it is reasonable to expect the parents to know what happened thereafter.<br /><br />2) In her parents’ absence, I think it is not reasonable to expect a corpse to be abducted by a stranger.<br /><br />I was thinking of complications of an illness. <br /><br />I'd be keen to hear what you think.<br /><br />NL<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-24550848174907506332017-01-21T23:24:12.394+00:002017-01-21T23:24:12.394+00:00Encouraging to see I'm not the only one who se...Encouraging to see I'm not the only one who sees these people as nutters! <br /><br />...ChezAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-15263832643495442262017-01-21T23:13:09.524+00:002017-01-21T23:13:09.524+00:00'' ZiggySawdust = nutter and has lost what...'' ZiggySawdust = nutter and has lost what little credibility he or she previously had.''<br /><br />ad hominem<br /><br />case rested<br />ZiggySawdustnoreply@blogger.com