tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post2088656409370244997..comments2024-02-04T19:08:45.476+00:00Comments on CRISTOBELL UNDECIDED: WHEN THE PROVERBIAL HITS THE FANRosalinda Huttonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comBlogger181125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-23932418428967586072018-01-11T18:06:12.999+00:002018-01-11T18:06:12.999+00:00Bennell,Reid,McCann,McCafferty,Cullen,Cairney,Torb...Bennell,Reid,McCann,McCafferty,Cullen,Cairney,Torbett,Strachan,Beattie,King and Burns(enabler).Fixed that for you,there is your conspiracy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-80340147167038969952018-01-11T06:44:14.761+00:002018-01-11T06:44:14.761+00:00As March gets closer, the Praying Mantis- May- has...As March gets closer, the Praying Mantis- May- has shuffled her deck in a style her predecessor, Davinia Cameron, would be proud of. I urge you to watch the vid. Look at the usual suspects and the usual questionable characters and, above all, what they have been connected to. Clue : Cameron's 'special' friend and former BBC NW TV presenter( and co-presenter to Stuart 14-historical-cases- Hall), Esther McVey. The blonde bubble head has recently said 'it's right that so many in the UK are using food banks'.That kind of cold blooded elitist bullshit must have given Ian Duncan Smith a wet dream.It somehow gave May one too as she's made her minister of the DWP. All she needs now is the moustcahe and jackboots. <br /><br />Look out for talk of our fine, upstanding Metropolitan Police and whistleb<br />lowers too.And how things of no relevance such as child abuse and abusers are ignored even when put in writing.Look out for the figures on the attempts to access porn from Westminster too.<br /><br />Over to you Mr Gerrish :<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=721&v=0s2kJ9zNBQgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-9239473040315027162018-01-10T19:46:35.943+00:002018-01-10T19:46:35.943+00:00@ various anons above this
I don't think hys...@ various anons above this <br /><br />I don't think hysteria concerning Rowley's retirement is of much worth.Whatever anyone has decided online about him,he's been a copper for more than 30 years. How many coppers work until they're 65 ? It's not that kind of job.<br /><br />If a cover up of anything regarding the investigation did indeed take place and it was the orders of a Prime Minister or two kicking Military Intelligence into action, it wouldn't matter who was Commissioner of Police at the time. The Government are the bosses .<br />Let's remember that the nature of MI5 / 6 is covert. We don't know the orders they would have been given if they were given any. We can only speculate. It's difficult not to speculate when a crime of abduction alerts politicians to be on red alert to the point of them boarding planes and flying to the scene and asking to be kept up to date with 'developments'. The whole thing seems to paint a picture of somebody in a high place having something on someone else in another high place. That could explain why so much alleged evidence has question marks over it. Who would it really incriminate ? Two doctors being British and from the middle classes couldn't prompt all of it.Having two doctors jailed for the crime of causing the death of their child, accidentally or otherwise, wouldn't ruin the reputation of anyone but them.Would they call the jailing of them a threat to national security ? That's crazy talk . Nobody in Britain, in it's Government, or anywhere, would be up in arms because two middle class doctors have had to suffer the indignity of jail time.If anything, the police would receive a pat on the back . But, despite the early media soundbytes that voiced the expected positive outlooks and optimism, the sums of money that made up the funding said more.If you genuinely believe the case could be solved today or tomorrow or just soon, you don't fund as though you're expecting it to be years unless you are secretly pretty sure that nothing will be happening soon.How can anyone reach that level of certainty ?All I can guess is that somebody with absolute knowledge of that night has given proof to those who threw the guard around the parents and started writing cheques. I wonder if it's been explained to the parents, or they figured it out.They're no fools.<br /><br />Regarding FOI requests, I imagine that's a nicely greyed out area. Officially, it's an ongoing police investigation of a missing person, presumed to have been abducted.Officially.Therefore, the Government's (official ) involvement in it all has been to fund it only.So they can say that all information is confidential and in the hands of two Police forces while the investigation is still alive.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-21842618745235195542018-01-10T18:41:47.639+00:002018-01-10T18:41:47.639+00:00"his successor will continue this critical na..."his successor will continue this critical national security role."<br /><br />http://news.met.police.uk/news/assistant-commissioner-mark-rowley-announces-retirement-from-the-met-289016<br /><br />----------<br /><br />"*I am losing count of how many FOIs I have had rejected now. Apparently Madeleine's disappearance is an issue of 'national security'. Not sure how that is possible but either way trying to get info from Government and Police about this case is akin to getting blood from a stone. It's not going to happen."<br /><br />http://www.theuntoldstoryofmadeleinemccann.com/<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-64421406837602431842018-01-10T16:07:50.125+00:002018-01-10T16:07:50.125+00:00Anon 19.44,Not one mention of a certain Operation ...Anon 19.44,Not one mention of a certain Operation Grange,where a decision is to be made after March 2018 and when Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley retires from the Metroploitan Police Service,just another coincidence moment-case unsolved,now put it very high up where prying eyes cannot gaze upon it accidently!<br />What a sham,another Cover Up to avoid embarrassment of Political interference,Gordon Brown,David Cameron,Rebekah Brooks,Murdoch Clan,unsolved Murder of Daniel Morgan 31 yrs ago costing One billion pounds to evade the truth,with collapsed Court Trails-Justice!? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-29728603448970593612018-01-10T12:30:02.977+00:002018-01-10T12:30:02.977+00:00apparently she will be publishing later this month...apparently she will be publishing later this month in<br /><br />village magazine<br /><br />https://villagemagazine.ie/index.php/2017/11/boiling-over/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-83662542666006114502018-01-10T12:26:04.627+00:002018-01-10T12:26:04.627+00:00http://portugalresident.com/scottish-gangsters-run...http://portugalresident.com/scottish-gangsters-run-multi-million-trafficking-network-from-algarve<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-63770093322728031282018-01-10T05:22:56.710+00:002018-01-10T05:22:56.710+00:00@23:33
:)
T@23:33<br /><br />:)<br /><br />TAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-14560280461276737392018-01-09T23:33:15.903+00:002018-01-09T23:33:15.903+00:00Shit - they have both been in London too!
The plo...Shit - they have both been in London too!<br /><br />The plot thickens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-83998070042998409902018-01-09T23:01:41.502+00:002018-01-09T23:01:41.502+00:00....and Blair was born in Scotland. Celtic are a G.......and Blair was born in Scotland. Celtic are a Glasgow team. Gerry worked at Celtic. In 2003 Celtic were beaten 3-2 in the UEFA cup final by (Portugal's Porto). 3+2= 5(A).<br /><br />Solved.You're welcome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-89977628727832100282018-01-09T19:44:10.036+00:002018-01-09T19:44:10.036+00:00"AC Rowley will continue to lead Specialist O..."AC Rowley will continue to lead Specialist Operations and the national CT Policing network until March where upon his successor will continue this critical national security role. The process for his replacement will begin in due course."<br /><br />http://news.met.police.uk/news/assistant-commissioner-mark-rowley-announces-retirement-from-the-met-289016<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-49083787903509797402018-01-09T19:28:27.073+00:002018-01-09T19:28:27.073+00:00Are we in for another conspiracy..
Gemma O'D...Are we in for another conspiracy..<br /><br /><br />Gemma O'Doherty<br />@gemmaod1<br />Tony Blair went out of his way to help the McCanns. Why them, when 380 children go missing in the UK every day? Like Gerry, Blair had strong Donegal links and spent summer holidays in Ballyshannon, his mother’s hometown. McCann’s parents were also from Donegal #MadeleineMcCannAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-70151268182302617672018-01-09T17:46:17.964+00:002018-01-09T17:46:17.964+00:00"Mark Rowley, the Met's Assistant Commiss..."Mark Rowley, the Met's Assistant Commissioner for Specialist Operations and national lead for Counter Terrorism Policing, has announced his intention to leave policing to pursue new challenges."<br /><br />http://news.met.police.uk/news/assistant-commissioner-mark-rowley-announces-retirement-from-the-met-289016<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-91996092229052634992018-01-09T16:50:56.310+00:002018-01-09T16:50:56.310+00:00Anonymous 6 January 2018 at 03:50
http://cristobe...Anonymous 6 January 2018 at 03:50<br /><br />http://cristobell.blogspot.co.uk/2017/12/puzzle-returned-unsolved.html?showComment=1515210638307#c5132432988818368261<br /><br />“Freedom of speech may well be an abstract concept. Libel and defamation have more stringent guidlines, however. The latter should be the guiding hand to those who are charged with interpretation of the former”<br /><br />Freedom of Speech is an abstract concept, whereas libel and defamation are, indeed, defined legal terms, as is the presumption of innocence. Applying your own logic, everyone is entitled to benefit from the latter.<br /><br />“Amaral cashed in…”<br /><br />What writer made no attempt to cash in on something or other… Amaral is in good company in that respect if you are right about ‘cashed in’. I don’t see why one should be concerned about that.<br /><br />“He claimed to feel pain for Madeleine and said it was the driving force that compelled him. Yet, he accused the parents of lying and burying their own child's body.”<br /><br />I don’t see your point. I would see it if his views were unreasonable and/or insincerely held, but I have no reasons to suspect him of insincerity in this case. Whether his views are reasonable is arguable. If the parent’s allegations as to his views being defamatory were sufficiently grounded, then the parents were very well placed, both in terms of legal advice and financially, to sue him for defamation. <b>It is a matter of FACT that they chose not to sue him for defamation/libel</b>.<br /><br />“Failing to show proof might have one foot on the abstract, but it's vicious and, until he supports it, it's libelous. To view this as abstract is one thing, to switch it on its head and label him the victim of vicious litigants(parents) doesn't require an in depth analysis to see what is meant.”<br /><br />My preceding argument applies.<br /><br />It has been established by the courts that Amaral had been falsely accused of causing very substantial damages. ‘Vicious’ is a strong term, so is ‘false accusations’.<br /><br />Furthermore, it seems that we haven’t yet heard the last of Amaral’s side of the story. With that in mind, perhaps we shouldn’t be counting the chickens yet, funk soul brover.<br /><br />“''The official line in the US and UK is that 19 Muslims were behind 911. Does an ‘official line’ necessarily solve a case? If it doesn’t, why use it in justification.''<br /><br />“Because the police forces of two countries call the ongoing investigation a missing person case.”<br /><br />"... missing person case." You said it.<br /><br />“My intemperate bias when discussing Amaral is covered above.”<br /><br />I will look into your other post in due course.<br /><br />“''He has been under no obligation to produce proof.''<br /><br />That doesn't add any weight to his allegations.”<br /><br />Indeed.<br /><br />“It's a travesty of justice that he hasn't been required to do so.”<br /><br />It’s not a travesty of <b>justice</b>, it is a consequence of the parent’s (seemingly most unfortunate for them) decision not to sue him for defamation, I dare say. ‘They did not dare’ might be a good guess in the circumstances, don’t you think?<br /><br /><b>I SHALL RETURN!</b><br /><br />Peace, brover, and bless all the little once.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-37853617720249974372018-01-09T13:30:48.881+00:002018-01-09T13:30:48.881+00:00''The word defend can be used outside a co...''The word defend can be used outside a courtroom. You in fact are defending the parents every time you post, though not very well. ''<br /><br />Yes, but defend is defend.It's what you have to do when being attacked and / or accused. I never mentioned a court room. You didn't either, so what were you suggesting they're defending ?<br /><br />'' People are allowed to have views and opinions without demands for proof. ''<br /><br />Yes, and i posted mine.I just think if you- or anyone- is to attack somebody, you need to prove that it's warranted.<br /><br />''They have over played the victim card, they blame everyone but themselves - that's not endearing. ''<br /><br />Very 'endearing' of you to talk that way about two parents who had their little girl taken. Yet you discuss compassion. How does that work ?<br /><br />''Who is the Jane Tanner story thorny for?''<br /><br />Anyone who voiced excitement ( wow etc) when it was posted here without a source. The same people who are having difficulty finding one when asked now.<br /><br />''Yes I have watched the interviews, and I've Kate's book and Gerry's blog. I have also read the Truth of the Lie by Goncalo Amaral. I preferred Goncalo's.''<br /><br />That's your artistic / creative bent. If only the event was fictional.<br /><br />''Gerry and Kate have had almost 11 years and ample opportunity to show their nice side 01:048.''<br /><br />They've gone on record to thank those who have helped and given suuport often enough. They've criticised those who create horror stories accusing them. Gerry was photographed smiling once and for 11 years it's been posted ad nauseam online as evidence of his evil. Work it out.<br /><br />'' Reliving the night they lost their child in every interview is their choice, both the interviewers and the viewers want to know much, much more. ''<br /><br />It's not the interviwers choice then ? Why would they be interviewed about anything else ? Nobody wants to tune in to hear about their views on current affairs. The viewers may well want to know much more.So do the parents, surely. The baying masses online are starving for a morsel to rip at.The police aren't showing any real sign of finding any to throw their way. So they log on and let it all out. That's probably why they forget to argue with any reasoned thought. Maybe they should aim their anger at those who aren't feeding them...<br /><br />''The only thing stopping them from showing their human side is them. ''<br /><br />They are controlled because they know well enough that thousands of eyes are watching them with forensic precision, replaying their facial expressions and freeze framing at specific moments in the hope of matching a contradictory blink that exposes a comment as a lie.Those with that obsessive and deluded mindset should try rediscovering their own human side.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-36371302818325765592018-01-09T13:05:44.613+00:002018-01-09T13:05:44.613+00:00Little Tom's arch enemy :)Little Tom's arch enemy :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-60402166677076787942018-01-09T12:07:53.021+00:002018-01-09T12:07:53.021+00:00The word defend can be used outside a courtroom. ...The word defend can be used outside a courtroom. You in fact are defending the parents every time you post, though not very well. <br /><br />This is a blog, a discussion group if you like, not a courtroom. People are allowed to have views and opinions without demands for proof. <br /><br />With Gerry and Kate, most are suffering from compassion fatigue. They have over played the victim card, they blame everyone but themselves - that's not endearing. <br /><br />Who is the Jane Tanner story thorny for? Again, all we do here is discuss the case, it makes no difference to any of us if JT is co-operating or not. In my opinion, JT is the weakest link - I doubt she could withstand interrogation by the police or in the witness box. Her sighting is so wobbly, she has said, 'yes that was him', to Robert Murat, an egg, a woman, and a werewolf. <br /><br />Yes I have watched the interviews, and I've Kate's book and Gerry's blog. I have also read the Truth of the Lie by Goncalo Amaral. I preferred Goncalo's.<br /><br />Gerry and Kate have had almost 11 years and ample opportunity to show their nice side 01:048. Reliving the night they lost their child in every interview is their choice, both the interviewers and the viewers want to know much, much more. The only thing stopping them from showing their human side is them. <br /><br />Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-76635347231529256642018-01-09T11:54:39.621+00:002018-01-09T11:54:39.621+00:00@02:16
Milord is so gracious and generous: ask – ...@02:16<br /><br />Milord is so gracious and generous: ask – and Milord gives. And that stupendous gentleness of Milord’s left hook is so heart-warming.<br /><br />I’m off to ruminate…<br /><br />:)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-55272045328154982092018-01-09T11:04:55.596+00:002018-01-09T11:04:55.596+00:00@04:28
Milord
I’m most grateful and shall respon...@04:28<br /><br />Milord<br /><br />I’m most grateful and shall respond in due course.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-91237498478766260832018-01-09T10:25:59.634+00:002018-01-09T10:25:59.634+00:00Anonymous 6 January 2018 at 21:10
Could you pleas...Anonymous 6 January 2018 at 21:10<br /><br />Could you please post a link to the source.<br /><br />Thank you.<br /><br />TAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-28000756360518405922018-01-09T02:16:07.929+00:002018-01-09T02:16:07.929+00:00@ john blacksmith8 January 2018 at 19:06
'... @ john blacksmith8 January 2018 at 19:06<br /><br />''Hello 16.55. You seem to be vulnerable to feeling that you are surrounded by enemies and mentally damaged beings here, even though you have never met them nor even know their identities. ''<br /><br />Up pops another pop-psychologist. Somebody lock that manhole.<br /><br />Do you suppose you have the monopoly on interpreting peoples' mindsets based on what they write ? You who throws insults and swearwords around like an angry baby throes toys from their cot if you're having an 'episode' ?<br /><br />Do you have to meet someone to have a good handle on their mentality if you can understand that their thoughts found their way from their mind to a keyboard and, finally, a blog ?<br /><br />''As professionals - at what?!! you may ask! - we worry a little when people feel this way since it usually does indicate some underlying issues. ''<br /><br />The question never occurred to me (for obvious reasons).As for underlying issues, that needs a lot more fleshing out. Was it supposed to be cutting ? Or is it a new year resolution of yours to try and control your 'shoutier' self this year. Keep it up.<br /><br />:)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-83815459380308406412018-01-09T01:59:58.367+00:002018-01-09T01:59:58.367+00:00''An 11 year impasse just ain't gonna ...''An 11 year impasse just ain't gonna happen.''<br /><br />You've been posting ''things coming to a close soon'' posts for years now. You were wrong. Why are you right now ?A lot of aspects of this case are absurd, not just the costing.I have to remind you of a small but important point. police forces don't plough money into anything until their Government gives them it to plough. So who are the real laughing stocks ? Those who spend it on rubbish ? Or those who keep funding those who keep spending it on rubbish. Governments never waste money on anything they can't profit from.They rarely make a bad investment, if ever at all . The returns are not always financial . <br /><br />The 11 year impasse is happening right now. Unless you can share with everyone why it isn't. The board and pieces will be put away soon.The 12 year impasse won't happen then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-25876477853213979222018-01-09T01:48:53.031+00:002018-01-09T01:48:53.031+00:00''I do sympathise with Gerry and Kate beca...''I do sympathise with Gerry and Kate because if they are not prepared to explain, the 'you hate me' defence is all they have. ''<br /><br />They aren't on trial, ergo, no need to defend themselves. Didn't you know that ? It's only bloggers and pseudo detectives who aren't satisified with their statements and interviews.The police seem to be of an opposite opinion.But what do they know- I bet none of them even have a blog.<br /><br />''It is a shame for you too 23:40, because you have to go into battle unarmed, and if your opponents are laughing at you, you are unarmed. ''<br /><br />That began with good intentions, as profound statements go, but it tripped over it's own laces pretty sharpish. If one is to 'go into battle' then yes, they should make sure they are better armed than their opponent, or at least more proficient with the arms they have. It's like taking centre stage to pronounce to the world no end of theories and accusations aimed here and there and stating how they are the truth because others think the same. When asked for the evidence and proof that make it so ( the 'arms') suddenly you're exposed and surrounded by loaded guns. You know what I mean I'm sure.<br /><br />''I don't think anyone cares about Gerry and Kate very much either way 23:40, but they are gripped by one of the biggest 'mysteries' of the century.''<br /><br />There...that kind of thing. Good example. People with humanity, even the slightest bit, feel for any parents who lose a child.People who don't care have a serious emotional and psychological flaw that they would be better addressing rather than inflicting them on others.<br /><br />None of your post tackles the thorny question of this latest Tanner story by the way.That was the crux of the post you've replied to. You offered an opinion of the parents not being nice. Is that based on the hours you've spent in their company, or your viewing and listening sat in front of a screen as they had to relive the night they lost their child ? I won't ask you for evidence of anything, you never offer any. You just attempt to paint the usual dark picture and cite 'people' as your source.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-15083631448606142362018-01-09T00:55:25.983+00:002018-01-09T00:55:25.983+00:008.01 @10:15
Who is BS? Why Oporto?
T8.01 @10:15<br /><br />Who is BS? Why Oporto?<br /><br />TAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-17704408435690366272018-01-09T00:50:32.608+00:002018-01-09T00:50:32.608+00:008.01 @18.44
Who is Big Jerry?
T8.01 @18.44<br /><br />Who is Big Jerry?<br /><br />TAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com