tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post3222752303070367558..comments2024-02-04T19:08:45.476+00:00Comments on CRISTOBELL UNDECIDED: MEDIA MONITORING - MCCANN MEAN GIRLSRosalinda Huttonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comBlogger281125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-54448040778693035332018-03-14T18:44:16.259+00:002018-03-14T18:44:16.259+00:00With regard to the "Mean Girls" tag, ...With regard to the "Mean Girls" tag, I must say I am astonished at the self-righteous air adopted as they go about their 'business'. <br /><br />Trolling the internet as they harass, insult, and 'investigate' the private lives of anyone who dares to question the McCann version of events - even going as far as to compile 'dossiers' of their stalking ! <br /><br />One of them even had the indecency to attend Brenda Leyland's inquest for heaven's sake ! - a revolting act of callous arrogance. <br /><br />How on EARTH do they get away with such behaviour ? - and why don't the McCanns, who must be aware of it, at the very least ask for some restraint from the followers who have adopted attack-dog tactics on their behalf ? devoted followers ? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-32154970508747709542018-03-13T09:45:44.251+00:002018-03-13T09:45:44.251+00:00Hello Anonymous12 March 2018 at 22:22,
and thanks ...Hello Anonymous12 March 2018 at 22:22,<br />and thanks for comment.<br /><br />"If you think they have been protected through the destruction of evidence then your rage should be at a lot people before you pick on the two you mistakenly chose as easy targets"<br /><br />I wouldn't call the McCanns "easy targets", as they can afford an army of lawyers, appear, whenever they so wish, in talk shows around the world to give us all their versions of what happened to Madeleine. Not to forget their "brilliant" official spokesman. <br /><br />It has become almost impossible to criticise them without without being attacked on the personal level by a whole mob, who believes that criticising the McCanns is hating them, so thanks for your balanced post here.<br /><br />As for some of the DNA samples, that have been destroyed, I haven't accused the Birmingham Lab or the British Police for that, as they according to the rules, were more or less obliged to do so.<br /><br />Yet, I find it so sad that no-one (no authorities) tried to do anything in order to preserve, at least the residues in which an inclusive DNA profile of what could have been Madeleine's was found.Even the McCanns could have persuaded the authorities in question, to keep something for future testings, because that could at some point in the future free them from all suspicion,in case they would have to defend themselves in court, if they really are innocent. That's all.Björnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-81476253615947976182018-03-13T00:01:18.549+00:002018-03-13T00:01:18.549+00:00@22:10
I've sinned and I repent, padre.
T@22:10<br /><br />I've sinned and I repent, padre.<br /><br />TAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-57430938438188243442018-03-12T22:22:10.422+00:002018-03-12T22:22:10.422+00:00You won't flush will you. Nobody is declared i...You won't flush will you. Nobody is declared innocent, they are PRESUMED innocent.If they are then found guilty, they are declared guilty.You are in no position to demand anything.None of us are. The police are there to serve the public. They have done and still do, or so we're told.If you discover they haven't executed this duty you can demand then and only then unless you find evidence( yes, evidence) of police corruption.<br /><br />Just because there is no evidence to make the parents suffer and allow you to uncork a bottle in celebration,it doesn't mean throwing tantrums and shouting bizarre demands about. If you think they have been protected through the destruction of evidence then your rage should be at a lot people before you pick on the two you mistakenly chose as easy targets.<br /><br />If you could exchange your current fantasy for one of being a policemen, tell me what grounds you'd arrest and charge them on. It might be a way of making you realise why they are STILL presumed innocent.Then maybe the healing can begin :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-9599787612933093952018-03-12T22:10:42.988+00:002018-03-12T22:10:42.988+00:00between 28/11/1757 08.46 and 12/07/1827 7.56 pm.R...between 28/11/1757 08.46 and 12/07/1827 7.56 pm.Roughly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-22584652355200388692018-03-12T17:14:24.061+00:002018-03-12T17:14:24.061+00:00it will be closed as already decided..people retir...it will be closed as already decided..people retire, people replace them.It happens.You call it convenient.Others call it how careers workAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-44285399397104895722018-03-12T17:02:41.562+00:002018-03-12T17:02:41.562+00:00@Anonymous12 March 2018 at 13:48
I've correcte...@Anonymous12 March 2018 at 13:48<br />I've corrected my sentence.Should be JUST instead of WHO. You've certainly got the message anyway.<br /><br />"You're here implying that the McCanns have the right to demand that whomever they suspect of being Madeleine should be investigated, while those, like myself, J U S T demand that the McCanns, who’ve never been declared innocent, should be further investigated"Björnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-13260148322252008592018-03-12T15:46:47.871+00:002018-03-12T15:46:47.871+00:00Anonymous 12 March 2018 at 13:39
I grudgingly acc...Anonymous 12 March 2018 at 13:39<br /><br />I grudgingly accept.:) I guess you meant 18th-19th century. Correct me if I’m wrong.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-41301493118269744332018-03-12T14:25:20.708+00:002018-03-12T14:25:20.708+00:00Björn at 09:49
Fading into obscurity, if possible...Björn at 09:49<br /><br />Fading into obscurity, if possible.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-80937952987957993252018-03-12T13:48:53.333+00:002018-03-12T13:48:53.333+00:00Björn12 March 2018 at 10:41
@Anonymous12 March 20...Björn12 March 2018 at 10:41<br /><br />@Anonymous12 March 2018 at 01:29<br /><br />"It may well be true that it isn't a court of law, but a court of law is the eventual destination for 'musing' like that"<br /><br />Using Gerry McCanns' tactics, are you?''<br /><br />No. Bjorn. I don't need to employ 'tactics' of any kind when I can state facts. You wouldn't understand that though. Your blinkered view and ignorance of logic is stunning. The final line of your post, and the intention behind it, clearly supports this.<br /><br />For future reference, don't address me unless you can talk sense or provide some substance and evidence to accompany your ridiculous speculating.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-9845834328356226852018-03-12T13:43:52.862+00:002018-03-12T13:43:52.862+00:00Rosalinda, Cristobell Hutton12 March 2018 at 12:37...Rosalinda, Cristobell Hutton12 March 2018 at 12:37<br /><br />''Firstly, I am proud to call Bjorn a friend, he is a man with many interests, and that makes him an interesting person. I am always delighted to 'meet' people who share my own thirst for knowledge''<br /><br />Don't bang on. The nutshell version would have been enough : '' I love hearing anyone prepared to echo me then praise me''. Do you think people who come here can't rad ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-21501841162093895922018-03-12T13:39:58.416+00:002018-03-12T13:39:58.416+00:00was meant as 18th..typo.was meant as 18th..typo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-72336768696581350852018-03-12T12:37:43.029+00:002018-03-12T12:37:43.029+00:00Firstly, I am proud to call Bjorn a friend, he is ...Firstly, I am proud to call Bjorn a friend, he is a man with many interests, and that makes him an interesting person. I am always delighted to 'meet' people who share my own thirst for knowledge and I feel I bond when readers recognise the quotes and movie references, I often chuck in just for the hell of it. I happen to think finding you have something in common with another human being, is one of life's joys. I doubt Bjorn blindly follows anyone lol, he is a fella after my own heart, he works things out for himself. <br /><br />'Time and time again, blah, blah', let me stop you there. Why on earth do you keep putting yourself through this? I am not forcing you to read this blog, there is no gun at your head. I almost never read stuff I don't like, I haven't got the patience, and I certainly wouldn't waste my time telling them where they have gone wrong. <br /><br />You read about my views because, err, this is my blog, who's views should I be putting across? And btw, who are you to tell me, a careleaver, survivor, author and someone who has spent a lifetime studying the root of evil, that I am not qualified to discuss child abuse. <br /><br />'...the thought of being shown as naïve or wrong horrifies you'. That really is lol funny. I have absolutely no problem being proved wrong, one of my favourite phrases is, 'I did not know that'. It was a teaching device I often used - nothing compares to the delight on a student's face when they get to explain something to you, and it stays with them forever. <br /><br />I have been toying with the idea of the US shock jock tactics, they have certainly worked on me, I'm hooked. If I asked myself if it's shock or is just antagonistic, I'd probably return to it and up the ante, isn't that what journalism is all about?Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-1605484829433333102018-03-12T10:57:24.749+00:002018-03-12T10:57:24.749+00:00JJ 11 March 2018 at 14:12
“Hogan Howe speaking on...JJ 11 March 2018 at 14:12<br /><br />“Hogan Howe speaking on BBC Radio London 8 Oct 2014 to Eddie Nestor confirmed the McCann family handed in the dossier.”<br /><br />“Same interview H-H mentioned M was murdered and rapidly corrected himself…”<br /><br />That’s what I recall.<br /><br />Thanks, JJ.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-4804939611206353222018-03-12T10:50:16.870+00:002018-03-12T10:50:16.870+00:00Anonymous 10 March 2018 at 18:14
Cricket? I thou...Anonymous 10 March 2018 at 18:14<br /><br />Cricket? I thought comrade was a footy man… Have you been deceiving me?<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-5802428503984228472018-03-12T10:41:07.769+00:002018-03-12T10:41:07.769+00:00@Anonymous12 March 2018 at 01:29
"It may well...@Anonymous12 March 2018 at 01:29<br />"It may well be true that it isn't a court of law, but a court of law is the eventual destination for 'musing' like that"<br />Using Gerry McCanns' tactics, are you?<br /><br />Just want to remind you about the McCanns and their friends attempt to frame Robert Murat, without having the slightest evidence of his involvement. Moreover, they demanded without having found a shred of evidence, that a few selected girls should be DNA tested or investigated a little closer, none of whom resembled Madeleine at all, not even the same age. <br /><br />What's this, if not completely unfounded suspicion and accusations by the McCanns, which inevitably must have affected the parents of these girls. You're here implying that the McCanns have the right to demand that whomever they suspect of being Madeleine should be investigated, while those, like myself, who demand that the McCanns, who’ve never been declared innocent, should be further investigated.<br /><br />What did Kate write about Murat in her diary, wasn't it something like "I know it's him. I'm so angry that I could kill him"<br /><br />Björnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-68677753952499856622018-03-12T10:40:56.537+00:002018-03-12T10:40:56.537+00:00Anonymous 12 March 2018 at 01:16
“Quoting 16th ce...Anonymous 12 March 2018 at 01:16<br /><br />“Quoting 16th century poets means nothing in the 21st century.”<br /><br />Which “…16th century poets…” are you referring to, dear?<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-47723681586362053512018-03-12T10:38:18.758+00:002018-03-12T10:38:18.758+00:00Anonymous 12 March 2018 at 01:08
I have been unde...Anonymous 12 March 2018 at 01:08<br /><br />I have been under the impression that ‘JJ’, and each one of the other bloggers, represents him/herself. If I have been mistaken however, then ‘How <b>in</b>convenient for you and the ilk you represent.” seems to be capable of being directed at you.<br /><br /> T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-71154519359055750642018-03-12T10:31:19.791+00:002018-03-12T10:31:19.791+00:00Anonymous 12 March 2018 at 01:10
'working as ...Anonymous 12 March 2018 at 01:10<br /><br /><b>'</b>working as a duo<b>’</b> is not a quote; <b>“</b>Highlighting a quote nobody made…<b>”</b> is.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-83467558786643172602018-03-12T09:49:20.570+00:002018-03-12T09:49:20.570+00:00Anonymous11 March 2018 at 14:40
Hello
Andy Redwoo...Anonymous11 March 2018 at 14:40<br />Hello<br /><br />Andy Redwood very conveniently left, despite his moment of revelation and now apparently Rowley, who allegedly has had so many interesting leads to pursue does the same thing, though he can blame it on age of course. <br /><br />What will their legacy be with regards to the Madeleine case? Will Basu take over the Madeleine case or will it now be closed, without any final report? What do you think?Björnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-55277251889153306682018-03-12T09:30:57.131+00:002018-03-12T09:30:57.131+00:00@Anonymous11 March 2018 at 18:04
Hello
Kim Jong-un...@Anonymous11 March 2018 at 18:04<br />Hello<br />Kim Jong-un would perhaps appreciate your view on freedom of expression, but I cannot really say that I do.Björnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-56240166579461660532018-03-12T06:47:48.446+00:002018-03-12T06:47:48.446+00:00The McCann family compiled the dossier then handed...The McCann family compiled the dossier then handed it to the police and Sky News - how can you say they weren't in the driving seat? They didn't want Brenda dead, but they wanted her to feel misery and fear, which of course was what they wanted for everyone named in the dossier. It wasn't several names over a couple of years, it was hundreds of names over many years. They had over a 100 pages on me, yet by no stretch of the imagination could my musings be described as abusive or threatening. <br /><br />Did I see a McCann in shot in the Sky news report? No, but I did see their champion, Jim Gamble, former head of Ceop, warning all McCann critics that they will end up in the dock. There was also a concerned citizen hiding in the shadows who some say was Aunt Philomena. If their agenda was noble, simply to put an end to online abuse and formenting irrational unfounded hatred etc, why hide? Why are those threatening to name and shame paranoid about keeping their own identities hidden? Do you not see how all secrecy and subterfuge around the Myths sites are sinister?<br /><br />It doesn't say much for the courage and principles of the McCanns' supporters that they feel they have to hide their names. <br /><br />Putting an end to online abuse is fair enough, but putting an end to 'fomenting irrational hatred' simply isn't logical. For one thing not believing isn't hatred no matter how you try to twist it. Fomenting is not as strong as inciting, it's another one of those nothing burgers - so blurry it's open to any interpretation. People discuss this case because it is in the news and it happens to be intriguing. Trying to make rules as to how they discuss this case is delusional.Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-57158651117020256562018-03-12T01:29:38.995+00:002018-03-12T01:29:38.995+00:00''All these demands that I or my readers p...''All these demands that I or my readers provide evidence, are futile. This is a blog, not a Court of Law. It states quite clearly, I muse. People are allowed to have opinions without providing a link.''<br /><br />Possibly the worst and weakest disclaimer ever penned.All that to justify hate and accusations that can't be verified by evidence.People are also allowed to have opinions that don't find their way to your spam box then surely.Claiming that asking for links or sources is futile as the general consensus that slanders two people can be counted as 'musing' is comic. It may well be true that it isn't a court of law, but a court of law is the eventual destination for 'musing' like that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-21734274825323088752018-03-12T01:24:20.819+00:002018-03-12T01:24:20.819+00:00''I have actually been leaning a bit more ...''I have actually been leaning a bit more towards the old 'shock jock' tactics, and thank you for noticing. I am totally hooked on American news these days''<br /><br />That should do you good.The closest thing to the Nazi propaganda machine we've ever had. There's usually a few dozen members off staff crawling their corridors who have been formerly employed by one of the lying Commanders In Chief. A lot of Americans have woken up to how false Fox and CNN are now. It's taken a while but they got there.You'll probably enjoy it though.Remember, North Korea are bad guys and Putin is the Devil.Once you have absorbed these two golden truths you'll love their news even more.Oh yes, and Trump has odd hair and hands and so on. Good luck too with the 'shock jock' thing. I remember the 1980s with great affection. It will be nice to revisit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-47586621649410849322018-03-12T01:16:55.462+00:002018-03-12T01:16:55.462+00:00''Incidentally, I have been on forums wher...''Incidentally, I have been on forums where rules such as you suggest were writ above the door, they were a breeding ground for mini tyrants, and headmistress wannabes.''<br /><br />Yes, Ros, you're a rebel.A real renegade.And it's the 1960s and you're 'sticking it to the man' etc. Who needs rules and so on. Idiots do. Idiots and those who try to say laws are outdated and oppressive for putting animals away. Anyone trying to control people who can't control themselves and see nothing wrong with inflicting abuse or pain on people they don't know are 'tyrants'. Quoting 16th century poets means nothing in the 21st century.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com