tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post4101369616649858885..comments2024-02-04T19:08:45.476+00:00Comments on CRISTOBELL UNDECIDED: THE BIZARRO WORLD OF THE MCCANNS PART IIRosalinda Huttonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comBlogger194125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-40635440724406645152019-05-05T15:49:33.121+01:002019-05-05T15:49:33.121+01:00I think Gerry's sick of being the main attract...I think Gerry's sick of being the main attraction in Cirque De McCann. He's on to the media moguls and politicians games now methinks. He won't dance for money any more. This, and his pre-emptive attack of the Netflix doc as a waste of time seems to be a case of ' '*** you...call me when you've actually done something''<br /><br /><br />BernieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-9154717520014412102019-05-04T22:11:24.154+01:002019-05-04T22:11:24.154+01:00I suppose the interpretation of the fiscal aspect ...I suppose the interpretation of the fiscal aspect is all subjective. Sure we can look at policing protests. Or we could look at the savagery of the MHS cuts in every hospital in the UK or the even more savage cuts to the benefit system they call 'reform'.When this kind of financial terrorism takes place it's a war declared on the poor.Why should it be genuinely innocent people who bleed when cuts are made ?<br /><br />This case is an expense.For my money, I'd say an unnecessary one.Yes, maybe a year or two of investigating it.But after that ? No. In any case, the PJ had the responsibility of funding the investigation in the first place as it was a crime committed on their soil. But the cash -strapped UK felt it had to dive in and bring cheque books along with politicians and MI5 . None of them work for free. If either police force would have said, after a couple of years, that they'd exhausted all avenues and, given the financial climate, they saw it would be in the public interest to shelve the case until a time when meaningful evidence or testimony is passed to them, then who would have criticised that ?<br /><br />As it stands now, even if they arrest, charge and prosecute someone it won't be remembered as their finest hour. It will be remembered as a farce.If a gang is arrested then they'll be heroes.That would explain how sensitive it all was - so many involved and it was a house of cards. Maybe that's why the PJ are saying they have 'more than one suspect' now.But nothing of the twelve years tells me there's a likely conclusion to any of it.I believe it could have been solved years ago but wasn't.That's a bizarre belief I know, and a bizarre state of affairs if it's right. But the UK made the whole thing bizarre by throwing Prime Ministers and Military Intelligence at a police investigation.We are still to hear why.And we are still to hear why they give unending funding to something that isn't moving.If it isn't moving, it's dead. leave it.Nobody is going to break rank now. I believe it could happen but i can't see it being soon.I think there's so little evidence in the way of DNA etc that there will be no need to seal the case for any amount of years.This has been the greatest clean up job since Mister Wolf assisted Jules and Vincent.<br /><br />ZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-6717109401123878032019-05-04T20:15:02.784+01:002019-05-04T20:15:02.784+01:00Ziggy, to put things in context. The bill for poli...Ziggy, to put things in context. The bill for policing the climate change protests came to £7 m. OG is in the bargain basement of policing.<br /><br />Without the political drive to get something done, these guys are on the junket of a lifetime.<br /><br />I can't see what politician wants to stick his neck above the parapet, and risk the backlash of going for patents.<br /><br />Yeah everyone is pissed at them just now, but I guarantee the sight of her being lead away in cuffs with the twins looking on is all it will take for sympathy to shift.Oscar Slaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15985489413738410279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-26575245134050806892019-05-04T20:13:20.563+01:002019-05-04T20:13:20.563+01:00The PJ's trick to get free money was like the ...The PJ's trick to get free money was like the UKs but a bit more exaggerated..They said they suspect a 'foreign paedophile'. Foreign meaning someone from somewhere on the planet but not Portuguese. Possibly the German.But they upped the ante saying they have 'more than one suspect' to investigate-which suggests a ring.<br /><br />In the meantime, the shameless UK end of things didn't just request 'the usual please, gov', they asked for twice the amount ( £300,000).I suppose this will mean they don't need to ask for a top up in 6 months when this leads nowhere so we won't notice.<br /><br />I'd like to know what that cash gets spent on. An itemized list. If they have a suspect in their sights now, what takes 300 K to go and question him ?<br /><br />https://news.sky.com/story/new-suspect-in-madeleine-mccann-disappearance-11710862<br /><br />Z<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-85607393919874115512019-05-04T20:11:29.869+01:002019-05-04T20:11:29.869+01:00Did the PJ officer have a name or is it another ru...Did the PJ officer have a name or is it another rumour.Because he's lying if it isn't just a rumour.The libel case in court was pretty much an apology for the accusations made against themAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-24596544799388940252019-05-04T19:53:50.363+01:002019-05-04T19:53:50.363+01:00Rosalinda Hutton4 May 2019 at 11:43
''Or ...Rosalinda Hutton4 May 2019 at 11:43<br /><br />''Or could it be that with no signs of an abductor, suspicion of the McCanns grows ever stronger? Take out the abductor and all of you have left are the parents and their friends. ''<br /><br />Why take out an abductor just because they can't find him or her ?They had their chance with the parents- a bird in the hand as they say- and got nothing. That's actually further reason to look for the abductor, not less of a reason. <br /><br />247<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-13063342614242442872019-05-04T19:29:00.648+01:002019-05-04T19:29:00.648+01:00Anonymous4 May 2019 at 12:07
'' NHS medic...Anonymous4 May 2019 at 12:07<br /><br />'' NHS medics wear surgical masks.The last known NHS medical doctor who saw Maddy alive 'looking angelic' was Dr.David Payne'<br /><br />This isn't Columbo.<br /><br />''He claims to have spent 30 minutes in Kate Healy McCann's presence on the fateful evening. She claimed it was only for 5 minutes. We must forgive the male ego at this juncture.''<br /><br /> Fair enough but let's not overlook the actual truth while forgiving it.<br /><br />The 30 minutes you're referring to alone with Kate ? Was it on the 'fateful evening' or late afternoon before that evening's arrangements had been planned ?ie- the daytime.<br /><br />The 'angel of death syndrome' is fairly off the scale just because we're now looking for a man with a mask. I could dress up as Superman but i couldn't pull Lois Lane.<br /><br />ZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-35792700425815098792019-05-04T17:41:12.459+01:002019-05-04T17:41:12.459+01:00Frank Beck was the person who died mysteriously in...Frank Beck was the person who died mysteriously in prison after accusing Janner.<br /><br />DMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-14793882952759795122019-05-04T15:08:47.208+01:002019-05-04T15:08:47.208+01:00Great stuff. We've had revelation man, creche...Great stuff. We've had revelation man, creche man, egg man, smelly man, and now we have make- things- up -as- i -go- along- man. Hello jc.<br /><br />''There are only three people in the world who know the great secret of what happened on the night of May 3rd 2007 at apartment 5A in the Warner holiday resort in Praia da luz.<br />They are the dead girl Madeleine McCann and her two parents.''<br /><br />So you've decided that the Tapas '7' ( bigger number than 2 and 3) are free of blame now. That's new. Or is your maths terrible.By definition, a dead girl /child / person can't 'know' anything, by the way. Which leaves 2. Great start.<br /><br />''Unfortunately the girl cannot tell us of her demise and the parents have remained silent for 12 years except to lamely say it was a kidnapping.<br />They came back to the apartment and, - she was gone - just like that. ''<br /><br /> Apparently that's how 99.9% of kidnappings work, jc. The perpetrator will never do it in front of the child's parents( you, know, in case they ask what he's doing').<br /><br />''One of their great moves was to get a sworn pact of silence out of their Tapas friends who backed up their cover story of a kidnapping,''<br /><br /> A 'sworn pact' ? Do you know how one of those works, jc ? Can you give us any information on how they managed to get this 'sworn' pact if( according to your maths skills) they knew nothing about what had happened to Madeleine.<br /><br />''All this might seem fine for them so far except it has created a weak link that has certainly not fooled a watching public.''<br /><br /> But if it's that weak, how can it have fooled the police in Portugal as well as the UK ?<br /><br />''I wonder if any of the two families or a pact member might eventually blab the Great Secret that has held tight for 12 years''<br /><br />About something ( according to your opening statement ) they have no knowledge of.<br /><br />'' Doubtless the parents must dread the day the fake abduction tale will implode.''<br /><br />Doubtless ? They have years behind them that gives them confidence that it can't implode, explode or turn to mist.Only the police can expose what's hidden.They have dogs working along side them and forensics teams at their disposal should they wish to spend some of their 'hard earned' funding on them.Accepting offers from respected experts in the field would be a start.It would also deter a lot of lunatic posts on forums and the like. No offence, like.<br /><br />ZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-11827037192556776402019-05-04T15:06:19.894+01:002019-05-04T15:06:19.894+01:00Oscar Slater4 May 2019 at 11:31
''Ziggy, ...Oscar Slater4 May 2019 at 11:31<br /><br />''Ziggy, it had to happen, I agree with everything you said there.''<br /><br />First sign of madness, Oscar :)<br /><br />I think what I'm annoyed by, and you too and many others who have kept tabs on this case is one thing that shouldn't be possible.<br /><br />We see the pros V the antis. We read circular arguments about the evidence ( or non-evidence). We've been fed mind -shaping rhetoric from all media platforms. We;ve seen a full and continued commitment of both major UK political parties. We've seen the McCann versus Amaral argument- was he lying, wrong or right but suppressed ?Was it really a necessary political cover up or a bog standard moment rage from an angry parent ?<br /><br />So, we watch that spin around the b;lender and conclude that it's things like 'the crime of the century' or 'the mystery of the century' or the whatever of the century.These elements remind me of an unsolved murder i've tied to get on to of foe decades but can't for similar reasons that I can't with this one. But, that one thing that shouldn't be possible given it's billing of a complex mystery is that nobody should be able to look at all the conflicting arguments and opinions and theories and be able to predict anything at all with ease.Yet we can if we just look at it. They repeat what works and they will do so as long as they get away with it. The bi-annual ritual of asking for money in exchange for an 'intriguing' story.That we can predict it says much.Somewhere, someone unseen knows what this 'mystery' really is about.<br /><br />ZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-68046545465558710652019-05-04T14:24:30.199+01:002019-05-04T14:24:30.199+01:00Anonymous4 May 2019 at 12:07
is Dr Payne a surgeo...Anonymous4 May 2019 at 12:07<br /><br />is Dr Payne a surgeon ? Don't be silly. The 'jibe' is a clue is it ? So he wore the 'clue' but made sure nobody saw him.Great way of making a point thatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-31706353386721657012019-05-04T13:18:24.900+01:002019-05-04T13:18:24.900+01:00The misogyny that is.The misogyny that is.Oscar Slaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15985489413738410279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-89281265317113984452019-05-04T12:32:44.091+01:002019-05-04T12:32:44.091+01:00"Or could it be that with no signs of an abdu..."Or could it be that with no signs of an abductor, suspicion of the McCanns grows ever stronger? Take out the abductor and all of you have left are the parents and their friends."<br /><br />According to you, maybe. But not according to the police.<br /><br />Time will tell if the lead the PJ are allegedly currenly following is legitimate or not. But it would appear that OG and the police are focussing on an abductor, not on the McCanns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-68745404871865151772019-05-04T12:07:13.417+01:002019-05-04T12:07:13.417+01:00For me its a a jibe. NHS medics wear surgical mask...For me its a a jibe. NHS medics wear surgical masks.The last known NHS medical doctor who saw Maddy alive 'looking angelic' was Dr.David Payne<br />He claims to have spent 30 minutes in Kate Healy McCann's presence on the fateful evening. She claimed it was only for 5 minutes. We must forgive the male ego at this juncture.<br /><br />Gerry's Jemmy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-73919259602218546772019-05-04T11:43:50.091+01:002019-05-04T11:43:50.091+01:00So now we have surgical mask man, who sounds exact...So now we have surgical mask man, who sounds exactly like Smelly man (who wore a jumper with a target on the back)who also had a penchant for climbing in the bedroom windows of small British girls.<br /><br />I remember when 'smelly man' was the new lead, about 5 years ago iirc, and when OG asked the British press not to investigate him for fear of upsetting the British families affected.<br /><br />It is very strange of course, that when Madeleine disappeared there was no mention of Smelly Man or Surgical Mask breaking into the apartments of British families. The world's press were in PDL scratching for stories, yet this man 'well known to the police' did not receive a mention until OG stepped in 5 years later.<br /><br />So where has this new lead 'surgical mask man' come from? He sounds just like 'smelly man', is it possible there were two child predators climbing into the bedroom windows of British holidaymakers at the same time? Independent of each other? Curiouser and curiouser.<br /><br />Or could it be that with no signs of an abductor, suspicion of the McCanns grows ever stronger? Take out the abductor and all of you have left are the parents and their friends. <br /><br />Who's interests does it serve if the media publishes stories of 'new leads' and new potential abductors? It doesn't make the police look good - 7 years and they have only just come up with a new lead? What were they doing for the previous 7 years? Who or what were they investigating while waiting for this new lead to appear? <br /><br />For those with a vested interest in keeping the abduction story going, it helps if the tabloids play along with this game of 'let's pretend'. And they are more than happy to oblige, it benefits them, sensational headlines, and it keeps abduction in the public's minds.<br />Not to mention, it keeps media martyrs Gerry and Kate as innocent victims. The abduction story wasn't just good for the McCanns, it was good for all those experts who flew out to PDL and took up the parents' cause.<br /> Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-22914138610681421612019-05-04T11:35:53.093+01:002019-05-04T11:35:53.093+01:0014:03 so you don't deny it?14:03 so you don't deny it? Oscar Slaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15985489413738410279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-37462532938779008702019-05-04T11:33:42.411+01:002019-05-04T11:33:42.411+01:00007 PJ officer said on CMTV last night that the Ta...007 PJ officer said on CMTV last night that the Tapas 9 are still suspects because they didn't co operate. Then the usual stuff about politics. <br /><br />Oscar Slaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15985489413738410279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-84693809580449784952019-05-04T11:31:19.102+01:002019-05-04T11:31:19.102+01:00Ziggy, it had to happen, I agree with everything y...Ziggy, it had to happen, I agree with everything you said there.Oscar Slaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15985489413738410279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-50346978541147193572019-05-04T11:29:42.528+01:002019-05-04T11:29:42.528+01:0022:40 looks like Gerry is distancing himself from ...22:40 looks like Gerry is distancing himself from the whole affair. He should be careful, much as he thinks he has Kate where he needs her, one day she might just self destruct and bring the whole house of cards down.Oscar Slaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15985489413738410279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-11723739878387271542019-05-04T09:37:52.402+01:002019-05-04T09:37:52.402+01:00Can I point out 20:49, that there is also a rule a...Can I point out 20:49, that there is also a rule about signing posts. I'm sure you will want anyone breaching this to have the same sanction applied to them. <br /><br />I'm sorry, I didn't catch your name?Oscar Slaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15985489413738410279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-86774526278839090892019-05-04T09:36:25.746+01:002019-05-04T09:36:25.746+01:00The story surfaces in the Corriere da Manha. Amara...The story surfaces in the Corriere da Manha. Amaral is friendly with the CdM. I think we know who "the source" is. I suspect he wont have lost many friends at the CdM, by puffing the show on Channel 9 podcast.<br /><br />I think it has about as much validity as the stories our tabloids publish. In fact, it is practically a carbon copy of the sort of stories that OG put out at this time of year.Oscar Slaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15985489413738410279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-27197317214092699622019-05-04T09:26:50.572+01:002019-05-04T09:26:50.572+01:00I apologise Peter R, you at least have the decency...I apologise Peter R, you at least have the decency to sign your name. However, whether your post was sanctimonious, or not, it was biased, patronising and interminably dull.<br /><br />Otherwise, grow a pair. You come on take a tilt at me personally and hey presto pages of guff as we have a pissing contest. It ain't on pal.<br /><br />By the way, don't kid yourself that you know why people are reluctant to contribute. You telling me there's some online pub where everyone gets together to discuss what blogs they are going on?<br /><br />Get over yourself brother. You've got something to say, sat it. Oscar Slaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15985489413738410279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-32612354712484318742019-05-04T04:25:08.548+01:002019-05-04T04:25:08.548+01:00"The Great Secret"
There are only three ..."The Great Secret"<br />There are only three people in the world who know the great secret of what happened on the night of May 3rd 2007 at apartment 5A in the Warner holiday resort in Praia da luz.<br />They are the dead girl Madeleine McCann and her two parents.<br />Unfortunately the girl cannot tell us of her demise and the parents have remained silent for 12 years except to lamely say it was a kidnapping.<br />They came back to the apartment and, - she was gone - just like that. Later the two adults thrashed the floor in front of two amazed Portuguese police officers who described their antics as like Arabs at prayer.<br /><br />But regardless of these theatrics (never to be seen again until smilingly releasing balloons outside a church). <br /><br />One of their great moves was to get a sworn pact of silence out of their Tapas friends who backed up their cover story of a kidnapping, likewise back home the Healys and the McCann extended families were told some kind of a story to fit the kidnapping plot.<br />All this might seem fine for them so far except it has created a weak link that has certainly not fooled a watching public.<br />I wonder if any of the two families or a pact member might eventually blab the Great Secret that has held tight for 12 years. Doubtless the parents must dread the day the fake abduction tale will implode.<br />jc Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-8434189156551071212019-05-04T00:09:22.142+01:002019-05-04T00:09:22.142+01:00No wider agenda was referred to in the post I repl...No wider agenda was referred to in the post I replied to.What is itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-43650278091911326412019-05-04T00:07:49.644+01:002019-05-04T00:07:49.644+01:00Oscar Slater3 May 2019 at 15:41
It's closed i...Oscar Slater3 May 2019 at 15:41<br /><br />It's closed in all but name. Unless something actually happens of course. Why would that happen all of a sudden. Don't think so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com