tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post6283320656335460308..comments2024-02-04T19:08:45.476+00:00Comments on CRISTOBELL UNDECIDED: BREXIT - WAS THE REFERUNDUM RESULT LEGITIMATE?Rosalinda Huttonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-3013535910029662192018-07-28T15:14:59.411+01:002018-07-28T15:14:59.411+01:00Betwixt two towering intellects T - sometimes I ge...Betwixt two towering intellects T - sometimes I get a little lost. But I am never offended, I am in awe!<br /><br />The secret to 'good' offending is, I think, charm. As in a telegram from George Bernard Shaw to Winston Churchill. 'Opening night play in West End. Come along. Bring a friend - if you have one'. Then from Churchill in reply: 'Can't make First Night. Will come to Second - if there is one'. Utterly divine lol. Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-69023950763639458012018-07-26T18:00:47.151+01:002018-07-26T18:00:47.151+01:00Anonymous 26 July 2018 at 11:56
I’m at the stove....Anonymous 26 July 2018 at 11:56<br /><br />I’m at the stove. Later, I’ll tell you a story of confusion worth telling.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-87171226607994735452018-07-26T11:56:18.863+01:002018-07-26T11:56:18.863+01:00Hey T
As Not Textusa is often shortened to NT and...Hey T <br />As Not Textusa is often shortened to NT and you are T, I hope there is no confusion. <br />Or even worse, someone starts up a Not T blog. lol.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-39720022564317021552018-07-26T10:54:51.825+01:002018-07-26T10:54:51.825+01:00@ 25th July 16:32
Yeah I know and should have sai...@ 25th July 16:32<br /><br />Yeah I know and should have said. <br />I avoided Facebook too as that's as mad and repetitive as twitter in my view.<br />'Fruitcakes' lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-45734400528695254102018-07-26T10:14:07.584+01:002018-07-26T10:14:07.584+01:00Anonymous 25 July 2018 at 21:43
:)
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Anonymous 25 July 2018 at 21:43<br /><br />:)<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-41567494747433878522018-07-26T10:10:43.151+01:002018-07-26T10:10:43.151+01:00Anonymous 25 July 2018 at 13:45
Oh, bless, I thin...Anonymous 25 July 2018 at 13:45<br /><br />Oh, bless, I think I know how you feel.<br /><br />Let’s: Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz<br /><br />T:)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-53474007871166988502018-07-26T09:55:23.212+01:002018-07-26T09:55:23.212+01:00Rosalinda, Cristobell Hutton 25 July 2018 at 23:11...Rosalinda, Cristobell Hutton 25 July 2018 at 23:11<br /><br /> <br />“…I am betwixt yourself and Bjorn!”<br /><br />As in a vice? Or in a sandwich? :)<br /><br /><br />“…I am not in the least offended,”<br /><br /><br />Offended by what, precious? By my wishing you Many Happy Returns? Do explain if you are in the mood to. Whatever you had in mind, blame Björn: he put me up to it, he is the educated one here who should’ve known better. :)<br /><br />Myself, as to offending, I’m in my salad days.<br /><br />“…a slap in the face with an effete glove and pistols at dawn!”<br /><br />Yeah, that’s what Pushkin did one time too many and could never look back.<br /><br />Bless.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-24594009244647084112018-07-25T23:11:35.251+01:002018-07-25T23:11:35.251+01:00Ah, my dear T, I think of myself as educated until...Ah, my dear T, I think of myself as educated until I am betwixt yourself and Bjorn! Don't worry dear friend, I am not in the least offended, I always appreciate the conversation being taken up a level :)<br /><br />I'm not altogether sure I am a great fan of poets. They both irritate and antagonise me. Perhaps it is their ability to say so much with so few words, but that talent I would also accredit to stand up comedians. The purpose of art, if it has a purpose, is to draw our attention to the minutiae, the coy look on the subject's face, the gentle movement of music from glorious to tragic. A silver thorn a bloody rose, lies crushed and broken on the virgin snow. An artist's talent is to transcribe feelings from one century to the next. That's why Mozart will never be more elite than the Beatles, each captures a moment in time. <br /><br />I don't know how we got there. I am still madly unfocused, floating between dreams. I can write - sure, but I'm not a great writer, not in genres that I respect and admire. I'm incapable of saying anything iconic or memorable without chucking in a gag which immediately demolishes any credibility I might have. It's vexing, but beyond my control. It's the only area where I have sympathy with Trump - I too cannot keep my gob shut!<br /><br />Anyway, I have been 'unbound' tonight for sure 'T', probaby because I am still shuddering at the memory of being 'bound' by the headcases that run most of the Madeleine forums, lol. Censorship to me is the equivilent of a slap in the face with an effete glove and pistols at dawn! Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-8448447802593312262018-07-25T21:43:36.658+01:002018-07-25T21:43:36.658+01:00@ T
Sounds about right.
Quite a fair assessment fr...@ T<br />Sounds about right.<br />Quite a fair assessment from NT actually.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-11604902587806810002018-07-25T20:18:00.694+01:002018-07-25T20:18:00.694+01:00I think a lot of people really wanted Sir Cliff to...I think a lot of people really wanted Sir Cliff to be guilty of something, it's the spiteful side of human nature coming to the fore. That need to see the mighty fall, kept the News of the World and numerous tabloids in business for many years. <br /><br />The police and child protection advocates seem to go after 'famous names' with much more vigour and tenacity than they do with, say, the building industry or any other industry where the suspect is an unknown and of no interest to the newspapers. We never see for example, Fred the plumber gropes 6 apprentices? I think it unlikely in the building industry, but it is within the realms of possibility.<br /><br />Young people throw themselves at Stars! Aged only 16 I had a fling with a singer at a holiday camp who told me he was in his twenties lol. The next night my friend, also aged 16 had the exact same fling, right down to the music he put on and the alcoholic drinks he made - we compared notes. Were we traumatised? Not at all, we found lads our own age, and he was quickly forgotten. We were a group of girls on holiday with no parents!<br /><br />Had this singer gone on to be famous (he didn't), we could have claimed he took advantage, we were traumatised etc, but it wouldn't be true. In my memory I think of it as strolling along the beach to 'Summer the First Time' - 'she was 31, I was 17', except he was nearer 41 and I was barely legal!<br /><br />Sir Cliff's sexuality is no-one's business, but his own. As a famous singer and attractive man, he has, I am sure had hundreds of groupies, and sadly quite a few who saw pound signs above his name. Again, why do not BBC coverage of dawn raids on the homes of ordinary people? Why are prisons filled with an inordinate number of former celebrities convicted of sex crimes? Some, household names, national treasures, their shame and downfall captured in all it's brutality. <br /><br />Is it an example of justice? With poor Brenda, we saw the tragic results of an ordinary woman demonised by the mainstream media, her face and home broadcast on Sky News every 15 minutes. The most vitriolic columnists were out in force, each adding another twist of the knife until they got the tragedy they lusted for.<br /><br /> Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-9127479156592416092018-07-25T16:32:26.992+01:002018-07-25T16:32:26.992+01:00Anon @13:16 you missed out the fruitcakes on the J...Anon @13:16 you missed out the fruitcakes on the Justice Forum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-33540204308805326052018-07-25T13:45:09.031+01:002018-07-25T13:45:09.031+01:00No piss take T.
Glad to have you back.
I want zigg...No piss take T.<br />Glad to have you back.<br />I want ziggy back too.<br />In fact all the old crowd,Jane,JJ and the rest.Even 'Unknown' and Blacksmith lol.<br />Although I see JJ has gone over to Textusa with her Leicester police thing now and Blacksmith has taken up residency at NT's abode.<br /><br />Never mind let's get this place buzzing again like it used to eh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-77848383160662424082018-07-25T13:08:43.758+01:002018-07-25T13:08:43.758+01:00Björn 21 July 2018 at 21:51
http://cristobell.blo...Björn 21 July 2018 at 21:51<br /><br />http://cristobell.blogspot.com/2017/07/was-smithman-gerry.html?showComment=1500297751948#c8296275378788015459<br /><br />T (quoting W H Auden): “Tao is a tightrope…”<br /><br /><br />http://cristobell.blogspot.com/2017/07/was-smithman-gerry.html?showComment=1500301691113#c3207834800825525361<br /><br />Rasalinda: ” What a beautiful poem and thank you. I must confess, I do not at present understand all it's meaning, it may take a few readings to do that!”<br /><br /><br />http://cristobell.blogspot.com/2018/07/brexit-was-referundum-result-legitimate.html?showComment=1531822916850#c2762839527678414735<br /><br />T: “W H Auden:<br /><br />“Tao is a tightrope…”” etc.<br /><br />---------<br /><br />http://www.zeno.org/Literatur/M/H%C3%B6lderlin,+Friedrich/Gedichte/Gedichte+1800-1804/%5BHymnen%5D/Mnemosyne+%5BDritte+Fassung%5D<br /><br />“Und immer Ins Ungebundene gehet eine Sehnsucht.”<br /><br />Google Translate: “"And there is always a longing for the <b>unbound</b> [My emphasis. T]."<br /><br /><br />My post: ‘Happy Birsday, CRISTOBELL <b>UNBOUND</b>!’.<br /><br />---------<br /><br />Of course, we might be able to discuss as a separate matter the relative merits of various possible translations. I would necessarily refer to Ezra Pound and W H Auden.<br /><br />For instance:<br /><br />We are a sign, meaningless<br />We are painless and have almost<br />Forgotten speech in exile.<br /><br />https://mesocosm.net/2012/06/06/mnemosyne-by-friedrich-holderlin/<br /><br /><br />Might be germane:<br /><br />“Irrespective of their relative merits, some poets lose less in translation than others.”<br /><br />“Translation also favors poets like Hölderlin and Smart, who were dotty; for their dislocation of normal processes of thinking are the result of their dottiness, not their language, and sound equally surprising in any: e.g., “…now the heroes are dead, the islands of Love are almost disfigured. Thus everywhere must Love be tricked and exploited, silly.””<br /><br />https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1966/04/14/the-poetry-of-andrei-voznesensky/<br /><br />Interesting what Auden says about the poetry of an incredible poet and apparently a very unpleasant character in life (Pushkin, “…<i>невольник чести</i>…”).<br /><br />Thank you very much, Björn.<br /><br />Kind regards.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-8981303807020645682018-07-25T11:28:02.015+01:002018-07-25T11:28:02.015+01:00Anonymous 22 July 2018 at 14:29, 17:30
Correct.
...Anonymous 22 July 2018 at 14:29, 17:30<br /><br />Correct.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-54629756281004377222018-07-25T11:23:27.700+01:002018-07-25T11:23:27.700+01:00Anonymous 23 July 2018 at 08:41
“…Kitty… It roll...Anonymous 23 July 2018 at 08:41<br /><br />“…Kitty… It rolls off the tongue easier…”<br /><br />Indeed. :)<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-73205126870577779612018-07-25T11:18:15.308+01:002018-07-25T11:18:15.308+01:00Anonymous 22 July 2018 at 18:30
“What crime did S...Anonymous 22 July 2018 at 18:30<br /><br />“What crime did Sir Cliff cover up?”<br /><br />None, AFAIK.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-58640754409419840302018-07-25T10:54:07.114+01:002018-07-25T10:54:07.114+01:00Anonymous 20 July 2018 at 18:02
“Hooray Mr T is b...Anonymous 20 July 2018 at 18:02<br /><br />“Hooray Mr T is back!<br />Now where is Mr Sawdust?”<br /><br />Thank you. Whether you are glad to see me or taking the piss, I find your post gratifying. :) Please no “Mr”, just T or comrade T etc.<br /><br />What happened to my Funk Soul Brover Ziggmund? No Ziggmund – no tea.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-25025887235710393902018-07-25T10:34:46.299+01:002018-07-25T10:34:46.299+01:00Anonymous 23 July 2018 at 10:30
Correct. :)
T
Anonymous 23 July 2018 at 10:30<br /><br />Correct. :)<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-9203440223840803192018-07-25T10:30:50.834+01:002018-07-25T10:30:50.834+01:00“Is Gonçalo on the way to be obedient ?”
https://...“Is Gonçalo on the way to be obedient ?”<br /><br />https://shininginluz.wordpress.com/2018/06/28/madeleine-may-2018/<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-8221175383260516852018-07-25T10:02:30.835+01:002018-07-25T10:02:30.835+01:00“Someone called Verdi soons comes in to belittle t...“Someone called Verdi soons comes in to belittle the poster and stop the discussion if one strays too far from the 'official' forum position. Which is, in a nutshell, Tony Bennett's views and opinions.<br />Verdi is also rude and off putting to any newcomer too.”<br /><br />‘Not Textusa’: “Verdi, an obnoxious suppository in human form, currently lodged in the colon of Tony Bennett …”<br /><br />I have yet to come across a more interesting description.<br /><br />T<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-66068057169723558452018-07-24T13:16:23.942+01:002018-07-24T13:16:23.942+01:00I had a look at all the rival blogs and forums abo...I had a look at all the rival blogs and forums about the McCann case recently to see how they compare.<br />I avoided twitter as the hastag there is full of repetitive arguing and so forth with nothing to learn about the case in my opinion.<br /><br />First up was Jill Havern's place CMOMM.<br />Quite a few posts about the case,but very little 'off script' views alowed.<br />Someone called Verdi soons comes in to belittle the poster and stop the discussion if one strays too far from the 'official' forum position. Which is, in a nutshell, Tony Bennett's views and opinions.<br />Verdi is also rude and off putting to any newcomer too.<br />Nothing new there then.<br /><br />Next up was Madeleine McCann Mystery forum. MMM<br />This seemed to have very few posters,with the majority done by Freedom. He/she is either a mod or someone from admin and most of their posts are about any subject other than the McCann case.<br />I found this forum to be a waste of time.<br /><br />I quickly moved on to the Textusa blog.<br />Now there is some debate about this person,mainly if they are male or female.<br />Some say she is one of a trio of spinster sisters from Idaho USA and others say he is a male cross dressing swinger.<br />Whatever, his /her main claim to fame is their swinging lark theory. Basically the McCann's and others were on a swinging week and the 'cover up' by the UK government was to hide the fact some VIP's were also on the swinging holiday.<br />Very few outside of Textusa's crowd go along with this view and I doubt even the ones who say they do,actually believe it.<br />But there you go, if you are into swinging or like the idea, than that blog is to place to go to.<br /><br />Lastly I came to the Not Textusa site.<br />That should give you a clue that the blog owner is anti Textusa.<br />They definitely are and nearly all the posts are either attacking him/ her or picking holes and laughing at the swinging lark.<br />I found this place to be full of people who I think were either banned from or left under bad terms, other blogs and forums.<br />A place for all the bad boys and girls to get together and bicker about their perceived ill treatment from other places.<br />There are some funny comments to be read there however and I particularly liked someone calling Textusa, Sextusa.<br /><br />Now with those forums and blogs and with the generally held view too that we are on the verge of yet more 'Strange' funding I'll wager that in 2028 things will be pretty much as they are now.<br />(Although Sextusa will probably be too old for swinging then lol)<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-60719660677373547432018-07-23T10:30:42.305+01:002018-07-23T10:30:42.305+01:00@ Anonymous23 July 2018 at 06:16
"His name is...@ Anonymous23 July 2018 at 06:16<br />"His name is Harry Rodger Webb."<br />--------------------------------------------<br />"In The High Court of Justice<br />Chancery Division<br /><br />Before:Mr Justice Mann<br /><br />Between:<br /><br />Sir Cliff Richard OBE – Claimant<br /><br />-v-<br /><br />The British Broadcasting Corporation<br /><br />and<br /><br />The Chief Constable of South Yorkshire Police – Defendants"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-72403104938475347832018-07-23T08:41:32.401+01:002018-07-23T08:41:32.401+01:00@ 22nd July 17.30
I prefer Kitty actually. It rol...@ 22nd July 17.30<br /><br />I prefer Kitty actually. It rolls off the tongue easier.lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-40457621297554853222018-07-23T06:16:09.516+01:002018-07-23T06:16:09.516+01:00Anonymous 22 July at 17:30
His name is Harry Rodg...Anonymous 22 July at 17:30<br /><br />His name is Harry Rodger Webb.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-19530867327600743462018-07-23T05:58:11.488+01:002018-07-23T05:58:11.488+01:00'Scotland Yard is embroiled in the largest pol...'Scotland Yard is embroiled in the largest police corruption inquiry for 40 years, with 14 officers under investigation for “serious corruption and malpractice” by the police watchdog.<br /><br />One of the most senior police chiefs in the country has been caught up in the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) investigation, which is examining allegations that the Metropolitan police’s anti-corruption command secretly covers up misconduct rather than investigating it.<br /><br />Three Met whistleblowers have approached the IOPC to allege that the unit, known as the Directorate of Professional Standards (DPS), has shielded police officers who faced allegations of child abuse, grooming, fraud, physical assault, racism — and, in the case of one police officer, intentionally driving a motorcycle into a member of the public.'<br /><br />https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/elite-london-met-police-investigated-for-corruption-w099sxgxf<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com