tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post6756251223975747256..comments2024-02-04T19:08:45.476+00:00Comments on CRISTOBELL UNDECIDED: VOTE LABOUR next week, and I'll tell you whyRosalinda Huttonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-28383155790017667172012-05-05T12:54:20.215+01:002012-05-05T12:54:20.215+01:00Greetings Cristobell and Rainbow
Don't the Mil...Greetings Cristobell and Rainbow<br />Don't the Miliband brothers - Dave and Ed - remind you of the minor mainstream tv entertainers Mike and Bernie Winters, with Mike (like Dave) being the moderately handsome and slicker but duller brother and bucktoothed Bernie being the bumbling Bugs Bunny lookalike people laughed at.<br />I'll shed no tears when Cameron and Clegg eventually get the boot, Rainbow, and I do agree with you that a vote for UKIP is wasted. I would add that UKIP is not to be taken seriously, as it does what all minor parties do, shooting its mouth off by offering you heaven on earth in the full knowledge that it will never be in a position to default on its promises, as it will never be placed into a position of power. The LibDems are paying a heavy price for making (tuition fee) promises the party believed it would never be called upon to keep. At present, the LibDems are almost unelectable because of this one broken promise. George Galloway is another populist blowhard whose honour and credibility will never be put to the test, as neither he nor the other Respect wretches will ever enjoy the experience of being in government. <br />Our political system is fundamentally flawed in that it does a terrible job representing the people or dealing with their needs - regardless of which party is in power, though Labour seems to have marginally larger compassion reserves than the relentlessly greedy and selfserving tories. However, all of them dissemble, obfuscate and lie with a vengeance.<br /><br />Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied (Otto von Bismark)<br /><br />Have a good weekend.<br />Hitch4557Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-73526946469110722942012-05-04T22:37:53.797+01:002012-05-04T22:37:53.797+01:00Hi Hitch, Agree with your first paragraph up to a ...Hi Hitch, Agree with your first paragraph up to a point. We should be creating wealth and new jobs and adapting to the society we now live in. I have real faith in Roosevelt's New Deal, it proved the only way to get out of the 30's Depression, and as we know, the US then went on to a greater period of growth. If the people have no money to spend, it has a knock on effect on every other industry. My nearest high street, has tumbleweed blowing through it. <br /><br />There was much I liked about the lib dems before the last election, but am sickened by their betrayal of their core principles and what proved to be downright lying. On the tuition fees, I could happily sock the deputy primeminster on the jaw! His face tonight is a picture of 'caught with his hand in the cookie jar' - his actions might well signal the end of the libs. <br /><br />As for Ed, I would have preferred his brother, but I think Ed is an honest fella, and still seems to have that sweet innocence and decency about him. Blair had it once, but that was many moons ago.Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-42366060852923116672012-05-04T18:44:10.889+01:002012-05-04T18:44:10.889+01:00Hitch good post... I think we need change.. but at...Hitch good post... I think we need change.. but at the moment Labour is the best vote to get Cameron out.. I quite fancy the UKIP but the vote will be wasted.. for me the priority is to get Cameron and his pathetic side kick out.. I know we have to wait to do that.. but today is such victory.. and I hope Cameron is loosing sleep tonight knowing that he is probably the most disliked person in the UK.. he wants to protect the elite.. and attack the vunerable.. I dont agree with that.. so today has made me very happy.. I have a friend who is a concervitive counciler.. she was very dissapointed today.. not her fault she is a lovely lady.. just suporting a craz head of goverment.. all I can say is.. if there is a God.. Cameron will be down and out in a few years time.. he is shite.. xxsue rainbownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-91261613940524057232012-05-04T11:17:15.879+01:002012-05-04T11:17:15.879+01:00As shown by the comments above, unquestioning loya...As shown by the comments above, unquestioning loyalty to a political party can blind us to the potholes in its strategy for running the nation. Although it is impossible to ignore the bad taste left by the foul tasting 2012 budget imposed on the nation's underclass by an wonderfully privileged toff chancellor as capable of handling the duties of his office as a field mouse is of mounting a credible fight-to-the-death challenge against a pride of hungry lions, I am not convinced that Labour's suggestion that spending our way out of recession is more than an ideological blank (just as it is testament to the unholy, unhelpful and consensus-shy nature of the adversarial politics practised by the Westminster trough snufflers). That partisan tory leaders always display naked self-interest at its starkest come budget time is a given and, this year, it is evidenced by Osborne's unforgiveable tax bung for the supremely rich and overly well paid who least need it, whilst giving OAPs and those slaving for a £6.00 an hour minimum wage a slap in the face. Indifferent as inbred David is to the social injustice he perpetuates, and unfit as the wretch is for public office, it is my belief that taking austerity measures is a more effective tool for dealing with this crisis than throwing at it money the nation simply does not have. <br />I have no time for Cameron's gang of blue bozos, but I see little in today's Labour Party to cheer me up, and I acknowledge that, ungracious and not entirely logical though it be, the nation is unwilling to credit the tax threshold concessions the LibDems wrested from the Tories - though credit is what the LibDems deserve - preoccupied, as the nation still is, with the tuition fee betrayal of which the LibDems stand accused. However, compared to all that has happened since, the tuition fee tiff is small potatoes, and the LibDems have atoned for their sins on countless occcasions, reining in moat-owning bellicose Tory grandees on the fiddle (and proud of it) and doing far more for the nation's underprivileged than the Labour Party pledged itself to. <br />Contradictory though this may seem, I believe in democracy but am not persuaded by the wisdom of the voter. Winston Churchill phrased his misgivings thus: "The best argument against democracy<br />is a five minute conversation with the average voter."<br />C'est la vie. <br />Hitch4557Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-69606351415234927052012-05-01T01:25:26.812+01:002012-05-01T01:25:26.812+01:00They would Bell.. my dad was a great union man and...They would Bell.. my dad was a great union man and was at the front of the fight for rights.. my mam supported him as it wansnt easy in the days of no help when the man went on strike.. no wage meant robbing Peter to pay Paul.. thats what mam used say.. when the milk man came she was out.. lol many did a moon light flit in those days so mam said.. the NHS my dad was chuffed I grew up being told to look after yer teeth pet and look after your eyes.. mam and dad didnt have the luxery of haveing their eyes or teeth cared for.. people died young.. its okay for those that can manage to pay but for those that cant what will happen to them.. will they be given a second class treatment.. the more I think about it the more annoyed I get.. xxsue rainbownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-74333989742407500012012-04-30T16:28:05.658+01:002012-04-30T16:28:05.658+01:00Thank you Jo.
Unfortunately, Labour breeds tori...Thank you Jo. <br /><br />Unfortunately, Labour breeds tories. That is, those who have a few comfortable years under a labour government, think they have moved up a few notches on the social scale - 'the working class can kiss my arse, I've got the foreman's job at last', mentality. <br /><br />Sadly for them, their position will always be precarious under a tory government, and after a few hard knocks, they will probably find themselves voting labour again. Of course, by then the damage will be done, and they will be queuing up for operations and food stamps with the rest of the population.Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-37595827461905660832012-04-30T15:50:39.669+01:002012-04-30T15:50:39.669+01:00Hi Sue, thank you for highlighting the way things ...Hi Sue, thank you for highlighting the way things were before the NHS. I expect your parents would be horrified that this wonderful institution is now going to be dismantled by the evil progeny of thatcher.Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-72792960100191750712012-04-30T15:42:12.249+01:002012-04-30T15:42:12.249+01:00Gordon Brown is a very intelligent man Jo, and I i...Gordon Brown is a very intelligent man Jo, and I imagine it is heartbreaking for him to see all his good work undone.Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-57181117132887905432012-04-30T15:36:36.901+01:002012-04-30T15:36:36.901+01:00Its seems our mutual friend has BUPA, so she posti...Its seems our mutual friend has BUPA, so she posting from an 'I'm alright Jack' perspective. <br /><br />Unfortunately many of those who support the Bullingdon mob selling off the NHS, are blinkered by their fear and hatred of anyone who might be getting something for nothing, foreigners especially. I actually find the idea of denying someone treatment based on their nationality abhorrent, as I am sure do many.<br /><br />The extreme right, rarely understand the mechanics and politics of the causes they support, their views are based on spite. I once spent a bizarre evening explaining the history of the National Front to one of its leading candidates. His ignorance was astonishing.Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-36206675069278772302012-04-30T02:18:12.800+01:002012-04-30T02:18:12.800+01:00Bell its the feeling of totaly being at the mercy ...Bell its the feeling of totaly being at the mercy of this pigheaded and ignorant goverment.. that makes me feel totaly helpless.. as a family we can maybe hold on but their are some that are in the system.. out of work.. with no hope for the future.. and Bell once changes are made more times than not things dont go back.. once they are gone thats it.. the NHS will never be the same again.. my mam and dad lived in a time where doctors had to be paid.. I remember her telling me how hard it was then and how wonderful it was when the NHS came in.. I saw on the news a few days ago also that there are more and more people having to go to food banks.. people that have lost jobs and have been brought to there knees and no real help and no chance of a job.. I do feel for those that are struggling that bad.. so far we are ok.. but as you say it can change in a blink.. I shudder.. I am hoping that enough people are seeing the light and will vote Labour next week.. xxsue rainbownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-6289250125986243102012-04-29T23:38:41.195+01:002012-04-29T23:38:41.195+01:00Well the memory of thosse £250,000 lunches should ...Well the memory of thosse £250,000 lunches should be fresh in people's minds. Billionaires are queuing up to buy a slice of what could potentially be the largest industry in the country. It will be the sale of the century!Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-71120716527522438602012-04-29T23:07:49.243+01:002012-04-29T23:07:49.243+01:00It really is the politics of spite Sue, all those ...It really is the politics of spite Sue, all those who moan about their taxes going to chavs, are rubbing their hands in glee. They think punishing the undeserving poor will teach them a lesson, when their true motive is payback, greed and gloating. They want a divided society with themselves being the good guys, maybe with regular awards ceremonies for best kept lawns and longevity in one job. I usually like to remind them of that religious little gem, 'there but for the grace of God, go I'. Fortunes can change in an instant.<br /><br />That 80% to come is terrifying Sue! So many vulnerable people having their support cut, and now this threat to medical care. We should remember it was after the tories privatised the hospital cleaning contracts, that superbugs started to appear. And also lets not forget, that when they privatised British Steel, they ran it to the ground and threw thousands out of work. <br /><br />I fear for the NHS, if they want to run it for profit. Look at the hospital car parks..... their charges are daylight robbery. I think they keep you waiting in A&E just so your parking bill costs more. A few 8 hour waits and they are coining it in. <br /><br />I fear for the future with this heartless coalition. The memory of that recent Panorama 'Poor America' programe is still fresh in my mind. Seeing queues and queues of homeless families waiting to see a volunteer doctor was heartbreaking. Tent cities were springing up on the outskirts of all the major cities. This, in the 21st century.Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-52828910371765956482012-04-29T22:19:33.596+01:002012-04-29T22:19:33.596+01:00Brilliant Bell.. I will be voting Labour for defin...Brilliant Bell.. I will be voting Labour for definate next week.. and so agree with you on the making those on benifits poorer.. they need to look after their children.. feed and cloth them.. what this goverment is doing is going to effect so many children.. parents will be at their wits end trying to make ends meet on an already very basic income.. I detest these toffe nosed tories that care nothing for the NHS.. for the vunerable.. for those that need medical care.. if the NHS looses the being free to all then I dont know what my mam and dad suffered for in the days when people fought for this.. Cameron and his pathetic side kick have no empathy for the people of this country.. they have no plan for the future.. all they want to do is cut things and still 80% to come.. what else over the next 4 years can they cut.. it doesnt bear thinking about.. another 80% of cuts still to come..!!sue rainbownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-25856981182101955712012-04-29T15:18:42.541+01:002012-04-29T15:18:42.541+01:00Great Post Bell. I see sallysnot has a blog lol. I...Great Post Bell. I see sallysnot has a blog lol. I just had to laugh at opening quote on the NHS that she got totally wrong lol. <br /><br />The most important value of the NHS was that it was "Free at the point of NEED" not at the point of DELIVERY as the tories have it.<br /><br />If she would only think about this for a minute she would realise that this an oh so subtle change that means many, many charges can be placed on the patient, ie. Diagnostic visits, xrays, scans, consultations, etc, etc before the DELIVERY of the treatment.<br /><br />This is a vital change to the wording of the NHS core principles. <br /><br />Sneaky, sneaky Tories once again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-67023612254326047722012-04-28T19:42:53.642+01:002012-04-28T19:42:53.642+01:00I have always voted Labour from DeniseI have always voted Labour from DeniseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-37992784815001945382012-04-28T14:05:37.659+01:002012-04-28T14:05:37.659+01:00Gordon Brown warned people exactly what the Tories...Gordon Brown warned people exactly what the Tories would do if they were elected. He was accused of 'scaremongering'!! Everything he predicted, has - and is coming to pass!<br /><br />I agree with the above poster - it IS time people stopped simply accepting what this government are doing - people power got rid of Thatcher - and now it is time to get rid of this hooray henry government!!!<br /><br />Jo xxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-27541467587911739082012-04-28T13:55:25.488+01:002012-04-28T13:55:25.488+01:00There in lies the problem the Tories have NO consc...There in lies the problem the Tories have NO conscience whatsoever! The audience you want to be targetting is the ones who have worked all their days and now in retirement have a few pounds to spare and think of themselves as middle class! Yes i sneer at the very thought of that, if they had been middle class they would have retired long before retirement age and a few pounds in their pockets doesn't make them middle class! <br />These same ones don't mind paying for doctors/hospital treatment (using up their savings) makes them feel superior to those that can't afford it! <br />I have been saying since the Tories/libs came into power that our NHS was in danger, of course die hard tory fans have poo poo'd it but it was blatantly obvious, every decision they make no matter what it's for it all leads to the demise of the NHS if you look at the bigger picture! <br /><br />Always been a Labour voter and not about to stop now, infact if i was in better health i'd take to the streets and lobby these B*stards!! It's time us Brits grew a backbone and fought back instead of lying down and taking it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-82617350205177219962012-04-28T13:27:32.177+01:002012-04-28T13:27:32.177+01:00Bloody well said Bell!!! I think even people who...Bloody well said Bell!!! I think even people who don't usually vote Labour, should do so this time, otherwise we WILL lose our NHS!!!<br /><br />I honestly do think, that anyone who can even contemplate voting Tory, must have no social conscience whatsoever!<br /><br />Jo xxxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com