tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post9160462883502307404..comments2024-02-04T19:08:45.476+00:00Comments on CRISTOBELL UNDECIDED: UPDATE: THE MADELEINE STORY AND ME - BY CRISTOBELLRosalinda Huttonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comBlogger212125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-76765717716593986612021-02-19T19:01:21.621+00:002021-02-19T19:01:21.621+00:00I won't hold my breath!I won't hold my breath!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-54732061681077932862021-02-19T18:58:52.271+00:002021-02-19T18:58:52.271+00:00I too followed the case from day one, I only hope ...I too followed the case from day one, I only hope your book will include. The S- Africa indisputable links, where Krugel was allegedly contacted by McCann's to search for Maddie, The poster who offered 10mil rand to find Maddie on Krugel critics site, A phone call allegedly made by close member of family, to the 2007 Missing Kids, S Africa founder, who later killed himself, The S Africa Losotho Orphanage, missionary founder, an ex pat of Luz, The Lockheed Martin contractor, worked in Luz, who sent an e-mail to PJ suggesting they hire Krugel, 13yrs deep research has gone into my effort, not a quick fix, blinkered view, I won't buy your book, but will watch carefully to see that full story is told! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-89043747236570005892020-10-28T11:40:30.953+00:002020-10-28T11:40:30.953+00:00Oscar Slater25 October 2020 at 19:04
Oscar
“any ...Oscar Slater25 October 2020 at 19:04<br /><br />Oscar<br /><br />“any sane analysis of the facts is welcome.”<br /><br />With your qualifications, do you think it’s possible or even likely that a sane analysis will come from Ros?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-61802116556197224732020-10-27T18:08:26.236+00:002020-10-27T18:08:26.236+00:00Anonymous26 October 2020 at 22:28
“I am not the o...Anonymous26 October 2020 at 22:28<br /><br />“I am not the one expressing opinion about the Mccanns bird feeding habits am I? You really should learn to read and understand.”<br /><br />You call a practicing psychologist’s opinion nonsense, thus expressing your opinion about the McCanns, for your ‘nonsense’ comment necessarily implies that the McCanns, in your opinion, are not what they appear to J Peterson to be.. Even if you are a practicing psychologist yourself and you have neither met nor interviewed the McCanns, then how are YOU able to make your ‘nonsense’ comment? If you know something J Peterson doesn’t, please tell me what it is.<br /><br />Yes, thank you for your advice. I’ll carry on learning to read and understand.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-73553754243664366152020-10-27T17:16:44.307+00:002020-10-27T17:16:44.307+00:00Ros, is it honest to withhold replies to your blog...Ros, is it honest to withhold replies to your blogs and comments and pretend they are abusive? Is it honest to promise to reply to all signed comments and then ignore them?<br /><br />Ray<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-2799405106546053472020-10-27T15:43:21.149+00:002020-10-27T15:43:21.149+00:00That is an interesting read Bjorn. I agree with p...That is an interesting read Bjorn. I agree with psychologist, Jordan Peterson. I have made similar observations in my book, but the stand out for me was 'curiously lacking in individuality'. They reminded me of the Janet and John books I read as a kid. Perfect nuclear family, 2.4 children, hard working dad, Stepford mum. Undoubtedly keeping them characterless was another marketing ploy, reiterating how PLU (People Like Us) they were.<br /><br />Another factor, and it sounds a bit mean, could it be that they just don't have any appealing traits, traits that would endear them to the public? Producers pick up on that kind of thing, as in, 'yes, more of that'. Usually, when an interviewee goes off script and shows their true selves.<br /><br />Maybe Kate and Gerry were afraid to show their true selves, for whatever reason. Perhaps because they are professionals, they have to put up a professional front, whatever the circumstances. I spent years working in lawyers offices, probably a profession with the highest rates of automatons, a personality free zone. They wore business faces all day long.<br /><br />..... this has become part of my book, lol. Do you have a link to Jordan Peterson's article Bjorn. I'm scared to go googling because I don't want to be distracted. Kindest wishes.Rosalinda Huttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01497239700092619580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-61853769830623858912020-10-27T09:47:01.005+00:002020-10-27T09:47:01.005+00:00The situation remains the same
https://cristobell....The situation remains the same<br />https://cristobell.blogspot.com/2020/09/the-madeleine-story-and-me-by-cristobell.html?showComment=1602281635027#c8939259218558243855<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-52383397390048143292020-10-26T22:28:12.491+00:002020-10-26T22:28:12.491+00:00@ 17:52
I am not the one expressing opinion about...@ 17:52<br /><br />I am not the one expressing opinion about the Mccanns bird feeding habits am I? You really should learn to read and understand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-38099401252944019522020-10-26T18:03:01.012+00:002020-10-26T18:03:01.012+00:00Oscar - remind us what qualifications you have aga...Oscar - remind us what qualifications you have again please?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-86730623887272719082020-10-26T17:52:10.325+00:002020-10-26T17:52:10.325+00:00@10:22
Have you met and interviewed them? I guess...@10:22<br /><br />Have you met and interviewed them? I guess not. How have you formed your opinion? Are you a practicing professor of psychology?<br /><br />Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-19487589953043338762020-10-26T13:15:22.733+00:002020-10-26T13:15:22.733+00:00Thanks, Bjorn. A good useful comment, just like th...Thanks, Bjorn. A good useful comment, just like the last one of mine adressed to you a couple of days ago (withheld/binned for reasons unknown). I suppose one is expected to say "Ce la vie"? What do you think? <br /><br />Regards<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-61194020334811810302020-10-26T10:22:29.962+00:002020-10-26T10:22:29.962+00:00@ Björn25 October 2020 at 21:35
That quote from P...@ Björn25 October 2020 at 21:35<br /><br />That quote from Peterson is absolute nonsense. Has he met them and interviewed them = apparently not. <br /><br />"I can’t imagine them reading poetry, listening to music or putting out food for the birds!" Wow - devastating stuff!<br /><br />By the way, do you have a link to his statement please?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-53642822409868943022020-10-26T10:18:07.314+00:002020-10-26T10:18:07.314+00:00The picture of him sucking the lollipop and flirti...The picture of him sucking the lollipop and flirting with a friend three days later, the snarling response to the Supreme Court verdict in Lisbon, the self pitying performance in front of Leveson, and behaviour observed by Amaral - chatting to the Leicestershire cops about rugby, contrasted by his wife's shrine, his blog. All raise red flags.Oscar Slaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15985489413738410279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-21863175883790116922020-10-26T09:47:33.126+00:002020-10-26T09:47:33.126+00:00A fishing expedition, throwing out Madeleine McCan...A fishing expedition, throwing out Madeleine McCann.<br /><br />(2008)<br /> "Madeleine does seem to have become iconic of missing children," Kate McCann told CNN in an interview.<br /><br />(2020)<br />‘Madeleine McCann case puts Germany's missing children in the spotlight’<br /><br />https://www.dw.com/en/madeleine-mccann-case-puts-germanys-missing-children-in-the-spotlight/a-53732916<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-17851486970945883432020-10-25T21:35:32.875+00:002020-10-25T21:35:32.875+00:00Hello Anon25 October 2020 at 13:50
re: your questi...Hello Anon25 October 2020 at 13:50<br />re: your question to Oscar Slater<br /><br />Here is what Jordan Peterson, psychologist and university professor, has said about the McCanns and their friends. Interesting stuff and in this respect I do share his views.<br /><br />“psychopathic behaviours and values (so to speak) of conscienceless-ness and narcissism seem to have society’s seal of approval. From day one, the McCanns seemed to me to be curiously lacking in individuality, namely those cute little quirks of character that make each person a unique individual. Kate and Gerry and their friends were like composite average pseudo-people dreamed up by the marketing department of a middle-market department store or supermarket. They look like promotional photographs of people enacting stereotyped good times. I can’t imagine them reading poetry, listening to music or putting out food for the birds! Their main form of recreation seems to be purchasing clothes and keeping (physically) fit doing sport. No real inner life, only stereotyped image”<br /><br />He has also said that it’s inevitable that people who speak up will eventually though unintentionally offend someone, as it’s nature of arguing and disagreeing. As for myself, I’ve never intended to offend anybody and I’ve never felt offended by anyone, whatever choice of words some posters may use here in describing who they think I am, but of course, I would still appreciate a little more politeness especially from one anonymous poster on this blog.<br /><br /><br />Björnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-22978262282092964912020-10-25T19:08:18.045+00:002020-10-25T19:08:18.045+00:0012:56 Fair's fair, what's sauce for the go...12:56 Fair's fair, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Oscar Slaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15985489413738410279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-57234194646157982492020-10-25T19:04:45.148+00:002020-10-25T19:04:45.148+00:0013:50 - actually, I do. 13:50 - actually, I do. Oscar Slaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15985489413738410279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-71230813676510640942020-10-25T17:43:35.966+00:002020-10-25T17:43:35.966+00:00@ Anonymous24 October 2020 at 00:19
Thankyou for ...@ Anonymous24 October 2020 at 00:19<br /><br />Thankyou for monitoring my posts - maybe just once you could comment on what I say and not the simple fact that I have posted something. I realise however that that is not your purpose on here - is it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-12865146460180263592020-10-25T16:18:05.378+00:002020-10-25T16:18:05.378+00:00Hello
Oscar Slater25 October 2020 at 09:54
Anon 25...Hello<br />Oscar Slater25 October 2020 at 09:54<br />Anon 25 October 2020 at 12:56<br />Anon 25 October 2020 at 13:50<br /><br />"YouTube BBC News - Newsnight - McCanns on their worst fears for missing Madeleine 2011"<br /><br />Still at that time the McCanns were going around holding hands, at least in front of the cameras, though cuddle cat must have been left alone at home.<br /><br />Just as it is today, they’re in this interview expecting the British authorities to help them find their daughter and her kind-hearted abductor, who they believe has taken care of her.<br /><br />Perhaps not narcissists or psychopaths, but still a couple with rather distorted perception of reality, no self-insight and lack empathy. Time will eventually tell what kind of peple the McCanns truly are.<br /><br /><br />Björnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-21355196110893490382020-10-25T13:50:57.366+00:002020-10-25T13:50:57.366+00:00Oscar - do you have any official qualifications fo...Oscar - do you have any official qualifications for saying this: "I believe the husband is truly psychopathic, and the only pain he will ever endure is the fact that people have said bad things about him."?<br /><br />Or you you doing a Ros and using your vast experience of nothing in drawing that conclusion? <br /><br />As you're "happy to say an unhealthy obsession with this case has now passed" there is no need to post on here when the subject is the Mccanns is there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-82614799303770776062020-10-25T12:56:29.455+00:002020-10-25T12:56:29.455+00:00@ Oscar Slater25 October 2020 at 09:54
"What...@ Oscar Slater25 October 2020 at 09:54<br /><br />"What interest in this case has done for me is to really have a hard look at how the media works. I have repeatedly been gob smacked at how they can brazenly print untruths and circulate old lies.<br />Conspiracy theorists see all sorts of connections that are not there. I believe it's a simple case of laziness that we all suffer as we become competent at work."<br />-----------------------------<br /><br />Exactly - how many false articles about the Mccann case did the papers have to remove/delete and apologise for. How many hundreds of thousands of pounds did they pay to the Mccanns and the tapas group and to Murat.<br /><br />It truly was terrible reporting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-24974533150980509462020-10-25T12:31:20.314+00:002020-10-25T12:31:20.314+00:00Ros:
"Do you think I'm keeping the good c...Ros:<br />"Do you think I'm keeping the good comments back? lol"<br />I know you have been doing. You are so blatant in you denials that I start thinking you have a screw or two missing. Your assurances are worthless.<br />No, I don't come here to read the endless repeats of your 'stories'. I come for the comments by people like Ziggy, T and a few others who play a straight bat and don't reverse field, it seems they are no longer welcome here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-35439282341176423762020-10-25T09:54:41.949+00:002020-10-25T09:54:41.949+00:00I'm happy to say an unhealthy obsession with t...I'm happy to say an unhealthy obsession with this case has now passed. I accept that some people can do bad things and get away with it, and that they can even be smug when questioned about it. <br />I wouldn't want to be them, it will never leave them. I'm curious about what it was about them that the British state moved to cover up and bully the Portuguese. <br />I will be dead when the papers are released to the public, and given the choice between spending the rest of my life seething about it, and accepting that bad people don't always face justice, I'll opt for enjoying my time on this earth.<br />I believe the husband is truly psychopathic, and the only pain he will ever endure is the fact that people have said bad things about him. The mother I think has taken it harder, maybe one day she will break, who knows?<br />What interest in this case has done for me is to really have a hard look at how the media works. I have repeatedly been gob smacked at how they can brazenly print untruths and circulate old lies.<br />Conspiracy theorists see all sorts of connections that are not there. I believe it's a simple case of laziness that we all suffer as we become competent at work.<br />If you can get away with the same tricks to make your day easier, you will.<br />We see this now with the pandemic, where dullard reporters will happily regurgitate government spin, without a hint of a fact check. Is saying that there is an "explosion of ITU admissions," when they are actually lower than last October, any worse than repeating an unchecked fact that a "sinister" man took a phone call 30 minutes before the "abduction."<br />My real scorn is for the victims of these scams. They have learned life by rote, believing that as long as they repeat what teacher said, they cannot be wrong, foolish or responsible.<br />For, "what parent could live with that," substitute "we need to take care of each other." Both come from the same system of mind control, repeatedly planting phrases into the gullible's heads.<br />It's Chicken Licken, and The Emperor's New Clothes combined, where any attempt to get to the heart of the matter is shouted down by the bleating of mantras. <br /><br />OSOscar Slaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15985489413738410279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-16776199651569144842020-10-24T22:15:11.817+01:002020-10-24T22:15:11.817+01:00Hi Anon 24 October 2020 at 00:32
If you were just...Hi Anon 24 October 2020 at 00:32<br /><br />If you were just a little bit more polite I wouldn't mind. <br /><br /><br />“You think lies that sick should be circulated globally without any evidence to support them. And the parents, who have already lost a child- are to be considered cold hearted and litigious” <br /><br />Yes, and rightly so, as they can neither be said to be warm hearted, nor good-natured. They’ve threatened their critics in different ways and they’ve sued papers, who do not share their version(s)of the “truth”. The law suit against GA, which they lost, was not about finding Madeleine, but just about their own "suffering" and their own "reputation" <br /><br />Moreover, the appeal due to the loss in the Portuguese Supreme Court, which they apparently lodged with the ECHR a year ago or so, was just as preposterous as was their visit to the Vatican a few days after Madeleine had gone missing, asking the pope to bless them. <br /><br />Their claims, not to be confused with hopes, that Madeleine is still alive, despite evidence to the contrary, have led the Operation Grange in the wrong direction, that is if there was meant to be any direction at all (re. interview with Colin Sutton)<br /><br /><br />Björnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-834822786084044829.post-39309711942064177892020-10-24T12:52:32.691+01:002020-10-24T12:52:32.691+01:00I’ve noticed you think you are another Shakespeare...I’ve noticed you think you are another Shakespeare, “The quality of mercy is not stranned...”, but surely the great storyteller is not a monkey.<br /><br />See you later, Oscar Slater<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com