Thursday, 21 August 2014

BURIED BY THE ANTIS - PART II

I hadn't intended to kick off an internet war with my previous post, but it seems a lot of people have a lot to get off their chests.  It seems there are a lot of topics that we have been steered away from whilst under the forum umbrella and there are a lot of questions that need to be answered.  So much 'new' information has come in via the amazing response to my previous post, and I am beginning to see the extent to which the forum was being manipulated. Divide and rule, those of us with doubts could not speak to each other unless we had the foresight to exchange email addresses.

It is infuriating to be unceremoniously thrown out, without warning or explanation and of course, all rights of reply are removed.  That's it, you are being punished and they can say what the hell they like about you. You cannot even email Admin, all lines of communication are cut off.

Jill should have realised that one day, all those people would indeed find a voice and those roads we weren't allowed to go down are now clear - barred topics are open.  This is  of course just a temporary measure, I'm hoping someone far cleverer than I will be able to set up a new forum.

Meanwhile, I want to know why Tony is going to such lengths to smear me, and other former JH members in order to protect his theory that the Smiths lied and Murat is involved. 




Please post new comments on this thread, so they can be seen instantly. :)

198 comments:

  1. So fucking obvious now, with this latest accusation of Cristobell being Martin Smith...Tony will do anything to win or keep the hearts of minds of the sleeple forum members who support or believe this bullshit.

    Not that I really care anymore, I can tell you for certain it wont be me being drafted to another of Tony's false crusades. Many of you will carry on throwing crumbs up at him like wedding confetti, whilst he like a fairy cake sits atop of the cakestand. Your all being suckered in....

    ChillyHeat...

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    1. Tony went to great lengths to smear you because you are ALL NUTS. You can't even agree or get along with each other, and none of you seem to realise how the rest of humanity (who live outside of this nutty obsession) regard you! This is not your child, or your relative. Why don't you care about all the millions of truly desperate children in the world, and devote your talents to something real? You think Madeleine is dead. There's nothing you can do for her now, so at least be honest about your motive. It is NOT about truth for Madeleine. You've attached yourself to the world's most famous missing child, out of your own need for fame, which you project onto Kate and Gerry McCann, who (prior to this tragedy) showed no desire to be famous whatsoever. You need help. Just like Brenda needed help!

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    2. Police forces are underfunded; there are many people who need the help of the police. Officers are leaving or going sick with stress. Still, Cameron insists on millions of pounds being spent on this investigation when there is no discernible progress.

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  2. Someone once posted this on the JH Forum

    "In Elizabethan times, deliberately making a false allegation against someone was treated as a very serious offence. Upon conviction, the courts had the power to order the letters 'F.A.' [= False Allegation] to be branded with a hot iron onto the guilty person's forehead. Branding irons with 'F' and 'A' on them were retained by the courts. This punishment made clear to the world to steer well clear of such persons."

    Author - well lets not name and shame ...but ...was referring to his own besmirching (sob) by a previous partner in scribe!

    :o) :o) :o) :o)

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  3. Meanwhile, I want to know why Tony is going to such lengths to smear me, and other former JH members in order to protect his theory that the Smiths lied and Murat is involved.

    Because he can't directly accuse the McCanns any longer in case he finds himself back in court. He has to 'investigate' someone and switched his attack to the two obvious substitutes.

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  4. 'Meanwhile, I want to know why Tony is going to such lengths to smear me, and other former JH members in order to protect his theory that the Smiths lied and Murat is involved. ' I believe he has lost touch with reality, driven mad by the impotence imposed upon him when he caved to the CarterRottweilers.

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  5. The most recent thread started by Admin.."A tale of three bOdgers"
    Tony, Jill and that woman who is in limbo...
    No replies as yet...But Im happy for us to do our own thread about it :)

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    1. A thread about witness's being 'badgered' by Team Mccann.

      WELL WHAT ABOUT THE MAIN WITNESSES BEING BADGERED BY TONY BENNETT DAY AND NIGHT.

      What's all that about???

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    2. If by main witnesses you mean Kate and Gerry, then it its important to note that THEY contacted the media, they asked the public for support and they have been asking the public for money ever since their daughter disappeared.

      They have made hundreds of TV appearance and given hundreds of interviews, therefore THEY have placed their story in the public arena, so they should not be surprised that their story is questioned. No-one, not even the Pope, can hand out statements and expect 100% belief and support from the masses.

      What you and those supporting the McCanns fail to see that Kate and Gerry chose the limelight. We could argue that they were hit by tragedy and it was beyond their control, but that would only apply for the first few weeks/months.

      Thereafter the McCanns could have kept quiet and let the police get on with their job as other parents in such tragic circumstances do and the press and the public would have respected their privacy. However, they did the opposite to that, their aggressive media campaign saw them appear on more front pages and receive more publicity than the House of Windsor.

      It cannot be one way. We are a democracy, and we have freedom of speech (yeh, I know), those in the public eye must expect negative as well as positive publicity. Gerry does not have the power of King Jong un (though he would like to), people can and will question him and his wife as long as they continue to ask for support and cash.

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    3. Actually mean't Tony badgering the Smiths and spending unhealthy amounts of time in scrutinising every aspect of their lives. Even the childrens, when he says he has copies of their School reports and coursework etc just to try and ram the 'smiths are liars' down

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  6. If the forum owner, research groups, mods etc all have their own user name then who is/has access to admin user?

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    1. Tony Bennett does. As well as Jill herself. Probably Sharon too now she has had a payrise.

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    2. Admin accounts can have several persons with access, provided they hav the passwords tc.

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  7. Lets for now put everything to one side...Lets forget about the Smiths, Tony and Cristobell. Lets look at the forum itself....
    When you and I joined we were looking for one thing...Evidence to secure justice for Madeleine Beth McCann. I totally enjoyed the discussions and the fun we as a good group had on many occasions. Ok at times, I would log in to say hello and I will be honest, dropped by for hours on end because I felt welcome.
    I honestly soon began to feel that justice was never coming soon....No ones fault, just felt it. I carried on and on and on....When I type I have to look at my keyboard, so things were passing me by and I would miss posts.
    I began to research, but I was beginning to look at areas the forum would never discuss. I stumble on the Christopher Story theory and introduced it to the forum...I was immediately told to basically forget that one....Its bullshit....Ok I stopped looking.
    I then looked at common purpose and the fabian society...slowly that was a no no. Then the Smith sighting popped up and I took a great leap at it. Once I looked I was totally blown away by the sudden mass input by Tony....Hang on a minute, let us decide....There was no hope. It was totally swamped with crap like Smith must be guilty because he was promoting new golf products....Was I being told that that was the connection on the golf course with Murat and Gerry. I didnt buy it.
    To cut it short, I knew Tony had an agenda. There was no point getting involved...I took the bait and forced a ban upon myself.
    Ive returned on numerous occasions and have tried to be good and patient, but Tony just kept getting on my nerves...I bit
    Im just so shocked that now things like PMs were being scrutinised etc etc...In my opinion it tells me it is a definite Psyop. Who benefits ?

    ChillyHeat...

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    1. Many thanks for your posts CH and the very interesting points you raise. I am now wondering just how much damage Tony's 'theories' have done in the sense of how many people believe him and how many of his theories (myths) have become fact?

      The majority of us are far too lazy to document all our research so it can be produced as evidence for who know what. Therefore, we have accepted his rantings almost without challenge. I mean seriously, who wants to go through reams of documents seeking out the finer points of a gnats arse, just to say 'told you so'! Unfortunately, this has given Tony an authority that he doesn't deserve. No wonder he and Carter Ruck needed transit vans to exchange documents!

      Did/does Tony have an agenda? I am still struggling to understand what has been going on. Were we all taken in?

      In the event of a future trial, the McCanns will move hell and high water to discredit the evidence of the independent witnesses. He has already put forward all the reasons (loony), why the Smiths could not possibly have seen what they claimed. Many people think Tony is making is making valid points, the battle for public support is halfway there!

      Incidentally, this thread is upsetting quite a few people, I'm being torn to pieces on twitter by both sides!

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    2. My god, you sound like Phillip Marlow!

      You ask the reader to forget all about the Smiths etc and then half way through your post you're banging on about the Smiths again !?!

      Clearly you disagree with Bennett, you've moved on so no requirement to keep churning over Havern's forum warblings is there?.

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    3. Clearly there s a lot of interest in this subject, and a lot of things left unsaid. This debate has opened up a whole new can of worms.

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  8. That is their modus operandi.
    Ban and then Bennett/Admin trashes the poster and is backed up by the usual suspects plebgate ,ladyinred,smokeansmirrors etc saying they knew all along the poster was a troll,McCann supporter etc
    It happened to many people who had no reply as your blog states.
    It is an own goal for them that it happened to you Cristobel as you had an outlet to fight back.
    Sharonl started this debacle with her post that the Smith evidence was ludicrous and no one was allowed to debate that fact.
    Bennett must regret surely leaving a lunatic like her in charge of the asylum.

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    1. Whre is Candyfloss, what happend there?

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    2. Candyfloss is apparently taking a "well deserved break". I notice JH do spin (ever so slow to catch up) so assume it translates to "she was slung out for not banning enough trolls" or she woke up one day and realized what was going on and left. Either way a big loss, she is a lady.

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    3. Candyfloss was an honest and sincere woman. She realised what a fake the whole JH forum had become.
      So is everyone else now by the looks of this.
      Hope your well CF if your reading this xxxxx

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    4. Please don't mention that horrible and disgusting word 'Plebgate'
      What a little, pathetic, stupid little weasel he is.
      Got 3k posts to his name in about a year or so (got no life) and all he says is - 'Yes Tony, Your always right Tony.. blah, blah'
      Never once has he said anything interesting or slightly constructive. Never. Thick as they come.
      Say hi to Tony from me Pleb.

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  9. Quick post. I was Russian Doll who left JH forum a couple of months ago after bringing up my concerns privately with admin about Tony Bennett's attitude and behaviour. When their reply made it clear they were not taking me seriously I copied the PM onto the public forum saying I knew that would get me a ban but I was leaving anyway as I could not like myself and be associated with the goings-on there. I read that I was not banned but had my membership suspended.
    I had and have no desire to return to what [when I joined 3 years ago ] was a place for lively and reasoned debate, but is now a club for Bennett and his loyal entourage. I won't even comment on Mr B and his fan club, the place is exactly what Blacksmith called it, a cesspit.

    Interested to read about Tigger and Candyfloss maybe having left, just went for a peep at the list of those online and tigger is there. If CF has left I do not blame her.
    Look forward to debating the important issues elsewhere. By the way, why is a member like missbeetle with the ridiculous and pointless posts about what the couple look like and wear allowed to stay? The place will implode soon.

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    1. You were also a huge loss to that forum.

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    2. Yes, you were however I'm glad you have seen it for what it really is.

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    3. Russian Doll, you were a marvelous asset to the forum and you showed great courage in standing up to TB. When you left I could see that it was the beginning of the end.

      I think missbeetle is funny and you are right - strange she hasn't been banned. I got a chuckle from Aquila's exchanges with her. I think Tigger is working in the backround - probably something from the course she did recently.

      I did wonder how you felt about them explaining your outburst on "personal issues" - they've used that card more than once in the past.

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    4. missbeetle is a complete and utter WUM, and very obviously so. It amazes me that there are people who reply to 'her' seriously. j.robb is another worry (imo).

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  10. What's the craic with the Westminster IP addresses, does anybody know?

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    1. Nope we have never been given an answer as to what this means despite many posters being concerned and asking.

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    2. If you care about privacy you can use a virtual private network (VPN) or a tunnel to connect to the forum. I was using one of these to connect as a different person after I was summarily dismissed.
      When you connect that way you show up in Westminster. It must be where the internet backbone comes into the UK I think, or at least where the central node is.
      There's nothing that mysterious about it once you recognise that. It's all the people who have been banned hiding their IP addresses so they can get back onto the forum.

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    3. Thanks for that info Curioser and yes it could be people using a VPN - they would show up as guests (green) on the portal map. But there is consistently a bunch of members (purple) that show up in Westminster. And it is not the same people it changes every day so it cannot be connected to their ISP. Any idea how this happens?

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    4. And I also noticed that there was a pattern to who appeared in Westminster - if a member commented on a particular thread then they would appear in Westiminster. I could predict who would be there by looking at the contributions to various threads. I think I have some screen shots of this as it was so bleeding obvious. Also when a pm to me was altered then both myself and the original poster appeared in Westminster the same night, again I have screen shots. Co-incidence? I don't think so. I would like to know what is going on, especially with regard to personal email addresses that we use to register.

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    5. That's weird. I can't explain that. I was logged in with a new account, but using a VPN, so I wasn't a guest. I think I was purple but I only looked in on it a few times to check I was shielded.

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  11. If you've not been booted out how do you unregister yourself? There doesn't seem to be an obvious route other than contacting admin. As with the DM, the various guises of the 3As etc, I've had enough of the venonomous and quite possibly libellous rants. I always thought it was just the ramblings of the unhinged but am coming round to the idea that there is an agenda in place certainly now if not in the past. Keep the voice of reason going Christobell.

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  12. I know some of you may have your disagreements with Cristobell....Thats life. But in your honest opinions, should she be put through the mill because Tony is telling you, with circumstational evidence that Cristobell suddenly became Martin Smith ?
    Do you honestly buy this shit ?
    I keep saying it.....There are many posters on CMOMM that are great posters, even if we all dont see eye to eye. But come on, how low will you stoop whilst Tony saves his own arse. He couldnt give two shits about any of you....He is a wanabee crusader, the man that looks to solve this great mystery...FFS dont be a shallow person and follow him. The site is dying....so be it. Its time to look to the future and start anew without the fear of you being spied upon whilst searching for justice.....Its sick the way the site is being run. It needs to die. Its toxic and paranoid...
    In our own walks of life we are sick of being spied on 24/7 by corrupt Governments..There is possibly a reason why CMOMM is spying on you also.....

    ChillyHeat.....patiently waiting for a new honest open for discussion forum that may bring us closer to finding out what happened to Madeleine...Its that simple

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  13. Lets hope that a genuine and honest forum about the Mystery of Madeleine McCann will commence soon.
    Surely it won't be wrong before Tony runs the JH forum into the ground.
    Can't believe any members left actually take him seriously.

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    1. Oops. Long not wrong I mean't on the post above.

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    2. How many has he already ran into the ground? AFAIR I've left 4, maybe more.

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    3. The problem is, a forum is a heap of work. It effectively nobbles the person who starts it and how do you stop the manipulators from joining and wrecking it again?

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    4. Quite a few people are asking about a new forum. I wish I had the technical skills to set one up, so if anyone has the time and the inclination, do please let me know.

      Now here is a mad idea! How about an 'unmoderated' forum, a forum in which we moderate ourselves? That is, we who post more frequently can set the tone by our own behaviour, and idiots can be dealt with by peer pressure, or stamped out with more compelling arguments.

      I have a pet hate for the word 'ban', it gets my heckles up, and in any event, what is to be feared by lively debate? This is cyberspace, no-one has any actual guns or weaponary, only words, and incoherent potty mouths wouldn't last 5 minutes.

      On top of which, we have now reached that stage in 'Life of Brian', where the anti brigade have so many splinter groups, the People's Popular Front is sat on his own eating pickled frogs.


      How about a forum where people can say what the heck they like?

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    5. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot.

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  14. The JH forum... with Tony desperately trying to look over you all...Ironic the characters name is also Tony...Watch and realise

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JONqZt6_eG8
    It only takes one strong person to walk up behind him, not with the shotgun, but with words....Tony, please leave.

    ChillyHeat...

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  15. Perhaps Christobell you could have a daily" Bennett Bullshit Bulletin" or are you too busy impersonating Martin Smith. lol

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    1. No more daily Bennett bullshit....... Please!!!!!!

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  16. I HAVE A VOICE....I HAVE A PLACE WHERE I CAN SPEAK FREELY.
    Cristobell.....You have opened the door to free speech and opinions xxx

    ChillyfuckingproudHeat

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    1. Totally agree. Well done Cristobell x

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  17. Wheres that pesky squirrel gone....cant find the darn thing.
    Maybe it took the Matrix Programme PeterMac....
    Its quite a Common Purpose thing to do ya know KNOW
    Tosser
    Im going to out you all

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    1. Please say what the story is with PeterMac then?
      Very curious?
      We all know TB's agenda but what' PeterMac's?
      Or is he a fake as well?

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  18. Saltypete....sorry Sallypelt or whatever the fuck the name is has more or less confirmed she is Lazzeri lies in the sun.
    Stupid bastard
    She is full on at the posters who said a bike was something or other.....But its driving posters away.....More like riding away you dopey fucker

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    1. She bit the bait ;-)

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    2. I don't know where she has said anything about it but I do think that L-azzeri is likely to be someone on the forum.

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    3. salypelt has got to be lazz .I,m going to ask her!

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    4. Do tell us what she says!

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  19. I'm sure lazzeri is salypelt. She's having a rant about a couple of posters.

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    1. she has gone,but I think she is lazz!why?
      Direct no messing style.
      loves to attack Cristobel.
      said last week"believe me I don,t need anyone to do my research"!
      Obviously very knowledgable about the case,as is lazz.
      gets annoyed with people who are less informed than her.
      hmm hello sally the wally ,prime suspect as lazz the snake.
      let,s keep an eye oh her!

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  20. Seems like last night's accusation was a step too far, hardly any posts today as if forum is in stunned silence.

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    1. The forum has been found out for what it really is about.
      About time as well.
      Just a few gullible ones left. They should see the light soon enough though.

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  21. On their forum....THE END OF FREE SPEECH IS THE END OF DEMOCRACY..Sign the petition.

    “Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.” Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 19

    “Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers.”

    BUT THEY CANT ANSWER WHY THEY READ YOUR PERSONAL MESSAGES...

    ChillyHeat...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMBZDwf9dok

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    1. Not only read but alter. I kid you not.

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    2. Alter? That would explain some accusations that were quite groundless.

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    3. How does anyone know that private messages are intercepted and read?

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    4. Re: 21 August 2014: 15:59
      Sorry I meant to say 'Not only read but altered' I confirm that a PM to me from another member was altered without the original poster being informed. (Unless the other member was bluffing which I highly doubt). At the time we thought it was government surveillance as it contained sensitive information and let it go. This is not my only concern with this site - I do not want to say more as I am not done with it yet.

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    5. I remember one time I got banned, I set up another username as I wanted to say hello to a few of the other posters. I sent a few private messages but never once posted on the forum. Got a ban for that so to me that means Admin must be able to read private messages.

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    6. WLBTS was banned on the basis of a private message sent to him. .Bennett lied and distorted the contents of the pm in an attempt to smear WLBTS.He was ably abetted by Sharonl.The sadly deluded then attacked.

      You may recall WLBTS outed Bennett as Fleffer .

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  22. Did anybody else have posts whooshed before printing? Computer problems?

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    1. Yes I did.

      I had typed out a long post, and when I pressed publish I had to type some stuff to prove I was not a robot, and then the whole of my post disappeared :(

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  23. Hmm I see the Smith man 2 thread has been heavily edited and the 'circumstantial evidence' quote whooshed. Definitely crossed a line and they know it, no going back now.

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    1. If I was the Smiths then I would be suing Tony and Jill.
      I'm sure they will do one day when the time is right.

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    2. Did anyone get a copy of the 'circumstantial evidence' post, I would love to see it. :)

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    3. Here it is:

      No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:I must admit to wondering if the e-mail is genuine in view of Mr Smith never having responded to anything said about him before, as far as I'm aware.

      REPLY: Indeed. He has stayed silent despite his 'sighting' having been repeatdly queried over the past few months, yet purportedly we are asked to believe that he bought Richard Hall's DVDs, sat and watched them to the end, then calmly sent an e-mail to Richard Hall - using a gmail address - simply denying that he was a friend of Robert Murat. (We know from statements made at different times by Smith that he had known Murat for at least two years and had met him on 'several' occasions)

      Are you able to say anything as to why you think it could have been sent by Cristobell?

      REPLY: Yes. I am told by a follower of Richard Hall that he has asked Martin Smith, via the g-mail address given, to confirm his identity, but that he has failed to reply. That may have changed by now, if so, then due apologies to Cristobell.

      However, in the absence of any furtrher information from RichPlanet, the following circumstantial evidence points us to Christobell:

      1. She watched the first 3 DVDs and apparently gave them an enthusiastic reception

      2. She then saw a reference to the Smith sighting being dubious and some queries about Murat's role in the 4th video and soon afterwards apparently began ranting on her blog that Hall had got this all wrong and that the Smith sighting was genuine (there is a blog post which goes into this in more detail)

      3. About the same time as this, Hall got the e-mail and apparently soon put out a 'correction' on his 4th DVD

      4. Immediately after that Cristobell apparently exulted on her blog that Hall had been wrong to describe Murat and Martin Smith as friends and had apparently now admitted it on his website

      5. Cristobell's vehement belief in the total honesty and integrity of Martin Smith and her crusading zeal to attempt to prove me utterly wrong about him is of course known.

      I say all this not knowing the exact sequence of events here as I was away on holiday ('very conveniently' says Cristobell) when all these events took place.

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    4. I see my reply was taken down too...
      I said "Tony admit it, it was you that wrote the email and it has backfired"
      You conveniently informed the forum that you had been on holiday, and did not use the internet whilst away....Big giveaway Phony Bennett...

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    5. Good heavens, clearly guilty as charged! I am actually half Irish and half Scottish, which links me directly to the McCanns. What more evidence does he need? What a hoot, many thanks x

      And whats with the subterfuge about knowing Richard D.Hall? - he's told by 'a follower of Richard D. Hall'? Tony knows Richard personally, he did an interview with him! Whats the 'follower' nonsense? Are they no longer on speaking terms?

      Anyone familiar with Tony Bennett's theories can see they are stamped all over the 'Buried by the Mainstream' videos, so why isn't Tony acknowledging his contribution, or indeed, why isn't Richard acknowledging him?

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    6. FAO Tony and Richard
      A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization.

      "Shill" typically refers to someone who purposely gives onlookers the impression that they are an enthusiastic independent customer of a seller (or marketer of ideas) for whom they are secretly working. The person or group who hires the shill is using crowd psychology to encourage other onlookers or audience members to purchase the goods or services (or accept the ideas being marketed). Shills are often employed by professional marketing campaigns. "Plant" and "stooge" more commonly refer to any person who is secretly in league with another person or organization while pretending to be neutral or actually a part of the organization he is planted in, such as a magician's audience, a political party, or an intelligence organization (see double agent).

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    7. Thats why Tony gloatingly informed the forum of the amount of views it received...24 hours after his supposed holiday, he needed to monitor (lol) how many hits it had on youtube....
      Makes no difference Tony if it had 20,000,000 hits. There are hundreds if not thousands of 9/11 videos implicating the US government in a cover up...Dont see the White House panicking, do you ?
      Your too full of ego Tony, and people are seeing it now. You never ever was in it for any kind of justice for Madeleine...It was all me me me.
      Be honest, you have done Richard D Hall up like a kipper...Are we to believe that Richard was up on his info about Madeleine, when he calls Martin Smith.. Malcolm..And he refers to Amarals book as "A Truth about a Lie".
      You used him and he more or less has worked it out for himself....Unless
      Unless you were both upto something....For a man who has next to no knowledge of the Madeleine case, who paid for Richards trip to Portugal ?
      You know Tony, and Richard is possibly asking you the same.
      Somehow, although be it a little, I tend to trust Richard for now...But Im absolutely sure you have fucked him over.

      I do apologise Richard if this post seems like I dont trust you. but being involved with Tony drops the credibility factor...Once again I apologise

      CH

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    8. If TB and Richard D Hall collaborated on the DVDs there must be some connection between them, who contacted who is the question. If RDH did not do any real research behind the disappearance of Madeleine and only went by what TB said, isn't that leaving him open to a libel action by the Smiths especially if he is stating in video 4 that Smith knew Murat (I haven't watched the videos only gone by what's been posted).

      If TB has fucked him over that doesn't let him off from any libel case against him by the Smiths, does it? What a fool if that is the case to be take in by TB.

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    9. Just a thought, but does anyone know anything about Richard D Hall. Could TB and RDH be the same person? Has anyone heard of RDH before these videos?

      Why would RDH he so upfront about the McCanns but then in the 4th video be so intent on linking the Smiths and RM?

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  24. Its interesting IMO that the main target of all of TB's attacks in recent times is Murat rather than the McCanns (you Cristobell could be considered collateral damage in this)
    I havent fully got to grips with his reasoning in that one (and of course he is not exactly fully briefed there..lets NEVER forget the stepson shambles.....though TB would wish we have (most of which is 'whooshed Kate style)'

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    1. Tony's remit is to rubbish everything about the Smiths and create doubt and suspicions about Murat.
      Tony does not want this to have a fair trial.
      He is under orders to 'muddy the waters'.

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    2. 19:13 I agree. Tony does seem determined to implicate Robert Murat.

      One of Tony's passions is to clean up the internet and root out perverts, in this he is on the same page as Jim Gamble. Robert Murat was said to have had all sorts of weird stuff on his PC, and freaky allegations made against him. Tony accepted this as fact, and I think suspects there is some sort of paedophile ring involved and RM is at the heart of it.

      I however, have huge suspicions about the allegations made against RM - the guy was clearly being fitted up by the McCanns, so whats not to say all creepy stuff about RM was planted by the very efficient Team McCann support team? Who made the anonymous call to the PJ pointing the finger at RM?

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    3. Cristobell, Whats seems incomprehensible (to me at least) is the targeting of RM while giving the Tapas7 a free pass much of the time.

      The weakest links are surely the 3 medics (DP, MO, and ROB) each of which were in the right/wrong place at the crucial times (depending on which tale you believe).

      It is these 3 who should be brought to account, rather than softer targets

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  25. Tony set out to make money with the Madeleine Foundation. Lots of people donated to that site thinking it was helping the 'search for Madeleine'. Did Tony ever send the money back and correct the senders. NO HE KEPT IT ALL.
    He also made money by SELLING the '60 reasons booklet'.
    He now makes money (from Team McCann) to discredit the Smiths and try and put Murat back in the frame.
    Tells you what sort of bloke he really is.

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  26. Hello all. I have been a member of the Jill Havern's forum for almost a year now. I don't post much these days as I started to suspect all was not quite right but couldn't really put my finger on why. Some of the comments that I have read concerning it's agenda is beginning to make sense when I think about it. I admit I never really liked Tony and usually try and avoid any thread that he ends up dominating, which as everyone knows, is any thread as soon as the word Smiths is mentioned.
    I have had my concerns about Tony for a while but reading all this has just made my original suspicions all the more stronger.
    It was fairly obvious the poster known as plebgate only existed to reinforce Tony's views and wind up other posters. He or she was very good at that.
    As a concerned member (although not for much longer), I would be grateful, if allowed, of course whether people can confirm who the fake posters are. The ones that are on it to disrupt and the ones that have another agenda.

    Tony - has another agenda.
    Plebgate - On there there solely to wind people up IMO.

    Please can people add to this list. I think it's only fair for all the genuine CMOMM members to know.

    Thank you all.

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    1. I always assumed ladyinred was actually one of Tony's alter agos.

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    2. Could well be. I thought Plebgate might of been one as well.
      I'm sure he has a lot of alter egos on that site.

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    3. Aquila, Ayioyo, Sallypelt, Snifferdog to name but a few that 'control, disrupt and control' again. NFWTD is too thick to be part of any agenda if you ask me.
      Even starting to doubt PeterMac now with all that squirrel nonsense he comes up with. Look over there not here. Hmmmmmm!!!

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    4. I think NFWTD is polite, witty and very helpful.

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    5. Im going to be honest here...I think aquila is ok. I like her for the fact that she can see things many others cant. Im sure aquila is looking at everything and am sure she will make up her own mind.

      CH

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    6. I agree. Aquila probably is ok. Except that I don't think she has mush else and so won't go against the grain in case she has her life support removed.
      Such a shame as I think she is pretty astute.

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  27. CMOMM
    Complete Manipualtion of Media Monitoring

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    1. I have reason to believe I was put under electronic surveillance by a London intelligence company (anyone know who uses Remmington Hall enquiry agents in Bloomsbury?) after I posted something on the JH site. I thought it may be the MET watching me so I let it be as my only aim was justice for Madeleine. My personal email account (i.e.the email that I used to register) was also hacked for five to six months after this episode - somebody is reading my personal emails - it has suddenly stopped in the last few days. Co-incidence? Paranoia? I intend to find out.

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    2. I've had several viruses sent to me by new followers on twitter - I don't open them, and also had my email account hacked a couple of time. Its reached a point where absolutely nothing surprises me with this case!

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  28. Tony.

    You banned me from Jill Havern as I called you a loon and asked what your agenda was. Well you clearly are a loon and most definitely have another and more sinister agenda going on, as lots of other people have pointed out.
    Andrew77R

    Plebgate - I got banned for rising to your bait and standing up for other posters and myself as I could not stand your wind up merchant ways, constant ass licking of TB and to create disruption. However I have since learnt that that is your job on the forum. Credit where credit is due, you have an amazing ability to get under the skin of other members and annoy the shit out of them.
    Fossey.

    Admin - you banned me for asking a genuine question, which was it would be interesting to see a 'poll' of who would like Tony Bennett banned from the forum. I think everyone knows what the answer to that would of been. Get him off the forum (and plebgate) and it would of been a great one. Shame.
    frankS.

    Cristobell. Keep up the good work. Just catching up and reading the posts but. It's fascinating some of the comments being left about the JH forum and TB in particular. A real eye opener. Sure is a lot of hatred and anger towards TB but I am in one bit not surprised. TB has def gone too far though accusing you of the Smith e-mail. Surely nobody takes him seriously on that. Can't believe how low that man will go.

    Keep up the interesting comments everyone and all the best Cristobell.

    Andrew

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  29. I don't think the accusation from Bennett is being taken seriously enough. He has stated in print on a public forum that Christobell has posed as a witness in a current criminal investigation, to disprove his theory that Martin Smith and Robert Murat were friends.
    At the very least it is libellous and if I were Christobell I would be demanding a grovelling retraction in huge font on the JH site.

    Why is TB gunning for Murat? I believe it's jealousy due the large pay out RM received. Remember when leading up to the court case he stated that he didn't mind gong to prison, but he didn't want to lose any money. This remember from a man who's so tight, as a researcher he won't even pay to read The Times online. A man who accepts donations towards his fine, instead of saying, "No thanks, I got myself into this." As any decent person would.

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    1. Some very good points Anon 2:18.

      Both Smiths and Cristobell have very good grounds for libel (wonder if they would consider using CR). Martin Smith has already taken libel action against some tabloids.

      Just wondering if TB has treated forum members differently, those who contributed to his fund and those who didn't.

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    2. Oh dear Lord, could you imagine a legal battle with Tony Bennett? Documents by the truck load, you said that, she said this - he turns everything he is involved with into an extended version of Dickens' Jarndyce .v. Jarndyce.

      Which again begs the question, who paid the McCanns legal costs of nearly £300,000 in their action against Tony? There is no doubt he drove the costs up with his pedantic attention to even the most trivial details.

      Having won their case, why then didn't the McCanns pursue Tony for the costs?

      It may be of course that the Judge ordered the McCanns to pay their own costs, as it was their choice to be represented by such a huge and expensive legal team. Does anyone know the answer to that?

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  30. TB and his devoted followers expect us to believe Martin Smith is a liar who made up a sighting and only came forward after 13 days to help his "good friend" Murat.

    Smith engineers a convoluted scheme where 9 members of his family will testify they saw a man with a child but they know it wasn't his "good friend" Murat.

    So desperate to help his "good friend" Smith orders his family to lie and conspire to pervert the course of justice. To add authenticity he orders his 12 year old daughter to memorise the description he has given other members of his family.

    Smith does not care if he saddles his 12 year old with a criminal record and jeopardise her future if found out.
    This is indeed true friendship.

    Meanwhile in the Mac camp they do not care about the Smiths. Gerry knows he wasn't in the street with a child that night.
    Gerry obviously knows the Smiths are liars, as its all a figment of Martin Smith's imagination, the Smiths saw nothing, as there was nothing to see, as Smith made it up.

    And yet here is the puzzling thing. Gerry sends Brian Kennedy to seek out Martin Smith for information on what he saw. What could the Smiths have seen? According to the Macs/Bennett, nothing.

    The only reason the Smiths sighting would trouble Macs/Bennett is, if it was genuine. Their reactions and the constant besmirching of the Smiths show that it is.

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    1. Absolutely spot on!!

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    2. J J Excellent post. Thank you.

      ------------------------------

      From interview McCanns in the Netherlands
      June 21, 2011
      http://www.hartvannederland.nl/nederland/2011/exclusief-interview-met-kate-mccann/
      (transcribed before video had been whooshed)

      Questioner: He [Tannerman] kept the child in his arms?

      Kate McCann: He was carrying the child [Gerry tries to interrupt] across his arms, like this. You would think he might carry the child against the shoulder, but he was carrying the child like this.

      Gerry McCann: Jane didn’t know what Madeleine was wearing ...
      She also described the pyjamas, ... remarkably similar... and she didn’t know that, and another really key thing is, later on that evening, probably about forty minutes later, an Irish family saw a man and they gave an almost identical description of the man and the child."

      -----------------------------

      In "Madeleine" by Kate McCann:

      "The police did not appear to feel that Jane’s sighting in Rua Dr Agostinho da Silva and the man and child reported by the Irish holidaymakers in Rua da Escola Primaria were related. They seem to have concluded that these were in all likelihood two different men carrying two different children (if, they implied, these two men actually existed at all). The only reason for their skepticism appeared to be an unexplained time lapse between the two sightings. They didn’t dovetail perfectly. To me, the similarities seem far more significant than any discrepancy in timing."

      "Every time I read these independent statements in the files (and neither could have been influenced by the other, remember – Jane's description had not been released to the public before the Irish witnesses made their statements), I am staggered by how alike they are, almost identical in parts."

      ------------------------------

      BROUGHT TO BOOK
      By Dr Martin Roberts
      17 December 2013

      http://www.mccannfiles.com/id436.html

      "Which parts might they be – Adult male carrying young girl? What about the man's short versus long hair, travelling West versus East, or holding a seemingly dormant child wearing a long-sleeved top vertically, as opposed to cradling one in short-sleeves horizontally? Do such details not matter then?

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      Such details do matter. NL

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  31. I think this thread is Tony,s Ice bucket challenge ;)
    Keep up the good work all

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  32. Looks like JH forum has been closed to the public and now only be accessed if you log in. Admin have made no comment about this but have posted to say that accounts of members who have never posted will be delated today.

    It will be interesting to see what happens to the accounts of those who have posted but have challenged TB.

    Looks like he's on for a bonus this month! It's took a while but he has killed yet another forum off.

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    1. That's not true. I have just been able to look at the site as a non-member.

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    2. I deleted my account 48 hours ago. Yesterday, I could view a fair section of the forum as a non-member but I can only do so today by accessing the site throught the portal. Otherwise I am asked to login. Access via the portal is more restricted than using the Home button.

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    3. There won't be many members left to do any posting. There were over 3,500 registered members but very few posted, out of that huge number.

      I think they've shot themselves in the foot. Who wants to read posts by TB talking to himself under different assumed names.

      People who are still members will be very suspicious now in logging in as they will be concerned as to the real agenda of the forum as who is it actually run and financed by.

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    4. How did you delete your account Anon 04:10? I can't see any way of doing this. I am sure a few people would like to know...

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  33. They are hemorrhaging balanced posters and are lft with a hidden forum dominated by TB.

    Let's see them make a success of that.

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  34. Once again I repeat...
    CMOMM informed members that they were sorry for any ads that kept popping up. They then said "I have no credit card to pay to stop them, and Im not familiar with the paypal system"
    Read that again....This is from a site that tells TELLS you they pay for it.
    Who really has been paying for it ? ;)
    And why ? ;)

    CH

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    1. Team Mccann pay for it. Controlled discussion. Obvious really. All the 'antis' in one room. TB is the leader. A few puppets thrown in for good measure. The masses just talk crap all day everyday. Remember confusion is good. Any serious and genuine posters who start making some headway into the truth get banned. Simple.

      Can everyone see this yet??????????????????

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    2. I'm sure that all sites have to be paid for regardless of whether there are adverts or not. Perhaps someone who runs one can let us know.

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    3. If anyone has the capability of setting up a new forum, and indeed the inclination, can they please let me know?

      My novel idea as outlined further up in the comments, would be an 'unmoderated' forum, that is a forum in which comments appear immediately, and posters are not banned! Seriously hate the word 'ban' but will save that for another day.

      Is there any way in which to set up the 'framework' of a forum that will run itself?

      Before everyone throws their arms in the air in shock horror, it actually works very well. I used to post on the old AOL chat forum and they were completely unmoderated. In 2007, AOL directed those who wanted to discuss the missing Madeleine case to their 'Europe' board. The discussion was supposed to be about all issues relating to Europe, but it became exclusively about the Madeleine case.

      The forum did attract its fair share of nutcases, but then so do the moderated ones?

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    4. Indeed anon @3.28 And just to advise anyone thinking of joining over there, please don't use an email address containing your real name. That plus your ip address gives a certain someone all the details needed to store up info to use against you for the future.

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    5. http://www.forumotion.com/
      Easy as 1 2 3

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    6. My personal emails have been hacked ever since I joined the JH site - the same email I used to register with. And my email does contain my name as I thought I had nothing to hide so no reason not to use it. Can you give me more information Anon 03:54 - surely this is a serious matter?

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    7. Yes, I would like to know more about this too. This is very worrying and disturbing to say the least.

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  35. The portal map (on the 'All at Sea' members thread) has now been whooshed. I wonder why that has disappeared? The Live Traffic feed on the portal page is still there but only shows IP addresses by country.

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    1. Direct link to the portal map here:-
      http://www.editboard.com/googlemap/?id=16490634&enc=utf-8&frame=1

      Just Biggles and Blackcatboogie in Westminster at the moment...

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    2. Eeeek I'm supposed to be in some café. No where near where I am. I just googled the café and they have free internet access. This is freaky.

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  36. http://www.freeforums.org/

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  37. Wow. Utterly shocked by all of this. All genuine and ex genuine members of CMOMM have all been done up like a kipper. Jill and Tony, how can you sleep at night. You are bad bad people. Shame on you. I sincerely hope you get what's coming to you.

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  38. Not sure what details you're asking for Anon @04.10. I know more about personality disorder of some who will not be crossed and take revenge. Quite simple to build a dossier when you have a name, ip address, compare against 192. Search on facebook, twitter or simply google. I remember TB stating quite openly on the forum that he had phoned someone he suspected on there. How yuk is that?
    I too joined using my own name, luckily that is no more and have moved house. Best to join forums using an unconnected email address and keep tight privacy on social sites if used.
    Look how he wheedled his way into 3As and gained access to admin.
    He was ready to dump JH members names in court, but court wasn't interested. That when some of those names were in court to support him. I wouldn't credit him with being able to hack anyone's email as he had to have someone work the technicals for him on 3As. Not unless your password on JH was the pw of your email.

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  39. It's a long time ago but weren't private messages from 3A members published en masse at one time? I selfishly didn't take much notice as I never pm'd anyone there.
    Some people refuse to go down without taking others with them, as it never their fault.

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  40. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

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    1. Cristobell, I would be very weary of allowing these kind of posts to come to the front. It could be presumed as a threat. No doubt some from the other side will put these bait posts in...Advise you delete this post :)

      CH

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    2. Thank you CH, don't know how I let that one slip through.

      Tony does have questions to answer regarding his campaign and he has the means to do so via CMoMM or even on here. there is no need for aggression.

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    3. So much for a unmoderated site.

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  41. Anonymous22 August 2014 01:20

    "Actually mean't Tony badgering the Smiths and spending unhealthy amounts of time in scrutinising every aspect of their lives. Even the childrens, when he says he has copies of their School reports and coursework etc just to try and ram the 'smiths are liars' "
    .....................................................
    He has What? He actually said that? Doesn't that just back up what I've said about him building a profile to use later?
    Probably results published in the Irish press which I'm against anyway, just so competitive mums can read what grades little Patricks best friend got.

    That man is despicable. How can he be stopped, any ideas? This hounding of the Smiths doesn't relate to his gagging order, so maybe report to Redwood or even the Smiths?

    On a note about messages. The above I missed originally as it replied to a specific post. That means trawling through all posts to find the new ones. Not sure how to tackle it though. Would hate to have missed that gem.

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    1. Yes, he did actually say that, as did many others on the JH forrum.

      TB also went into great depth researching Mr Smith's company details and connections, to the extent that TB posted on the forum that he had had 2 solicitor friends verifying the details!

      It was a very long post, as is usual with TB. Who needs to use a few paragraphs when 150 are better.

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    2. Correction to my post of 06.30 - First line should have read:

      Yes, he did actually say that, I read it myself as did many others on the JH forum.

      (brain wasn't engaged when I was typing)

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  42. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

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    1. I had already deleted that comment Tony, and I apologise that it slipped through - its been a tad busy.

      I have deleted your comment also as it was repeating the unsavoury content. I apologise for letting that post slip through, it was not intentional.

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  43. why has it taken Hutton to be suspended for a week to make everyone realise how bad bennett is?

    Some of us have known and posted about it for years on other forums.

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    1. Oh please, it is a one weeks suspension not life imprisonment. Get a grip.

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  44. Hmm, all the ones that are slagging off the JH forum, I bet you still go there for a look don't you?

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    1. Yes I do because I believe my personal accounts have been compromised as a result of joining the JH site - eiither by somebody on the JH site itself or a third party (i.e.hackers). I need to know what is going on for my own peace of mind. Can you understand that?

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    2. No not really? How is looking on the sight going to stop (what you believe) you being hacked? If you believe that to be true then why not shut your account down and start again? It really is that easy!

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    3. I know very little about how computers work and wouldn't know where to start with regard to hacking, probably about 80% of computer users would agree with me.

      However, it was admitted on the JH forum some years ago that Michael Wright, a friend of the McCanns, monitored all forums and he most probably still is, paid for from the "Find Madeleine" ltd co fund.

      If you're looking for a hacker, don't look anywhere else.

      Poster at 07.02

      If you have used your email address for many years, how can someone just shut down their account and start again. I doubt it's that easy, especially when you have built a huge base of email contacts. Perhaps you could advise anon at 06.47 how easy it is.

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    4. Yes really anonymous 22/8 07:02. I believe my personal email account (same one I registered at JH) were compromised just after I posted something in particular on the site. Why I was hacked I don't know - presumably because what I posted was of interest to someone somewhere. I don't know who hacked me someone on the JH site or a third party. So I need to know what is going on in the forum/case in case the subject is raised again - then I would feel at risk.

      My personal email account has been hacked so it was pointless to start a new user-account at JH - too late by then. Have you any idea how much information hackers can gain from your pc once access is gained? Changing my user-ame would not have made any difference at all.

      So not that easy you see! And all in all a fairly serious matter to hack into someones personal emails I am sure you would agree. Any idea how disturbing this stuff is when it's happening to you?

      Anyway I will not be adding more to this as I am investigating what is going on.

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  45. I see Tony has entered the house. What did he say as post been whooshed off?

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  46. oh don't say the real tony bennett has actually posted here!

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  47. I am not surprised that TB whilst here, didn't bother to defend his modus operandi. I bet there is a lot of deleting going on over at JH forum right now though. No matter as other forums have screen shots.
    Don't bust a gut with your blog Christobell having to oversee all the posts. You must have got the message loud and clear by now of the support you have. Thanks for giving us a voice.

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    1. There is an email from Bennett today on the 'Members with 0 posts' thread.

      Yes I expect a lot of deleting going on at JH. I will be investigating who has hacked my personal email account. As far as I know hacking another person's email is an offence under the Computer Misuse Act.

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    2. I had a few pms from people on the JH forum but never any emails. How does that work. If TB is emailing people who have never made a post surely that confirms that he is "admin", otherwise how would he know the emails of people on the forum?

      That is a very worrying concept if he has access to all the forum members' emails.

      Please can you clarify your post in respect of TB emailing members.

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  48. Apologies for the whooshing. Unfortunately Tony repeated the offensive remarks from the post I had already deleted. I don't have the facility to edit posts, so had to delete.


    Other than above, he said he was used to being attacks by packs of dogs, or something along those lines. Basically he is a martyr to the cause and we are his persecutors.

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    1. was it 10 pages long and in blue ink?

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    2. Oh please carry on deleting him, it is such a relief to be free of his garbage spouting.

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  49. Did I read a couple of posts correctly? That some believe that Team McCann are the string-pullers behind JH forum? Can't accept that. My gripe was the way TB was allowed to be abusive to fellow members and get away with posts no other members would. He also has more than the one alias I saw him admit to, I am convinced of that and to hide behind an alias to discredit a poster claiming that person's dishonesty was the last straw for me. WLBTS was a reasoned and courteous poster who engaged in lively debate without resorting to snide remarks and innuendo. I was not interested in photoshopping, the paedo angle and everyone is in it conspiracy that is now appears to be the accepted thesis on there. To me a man protecting his wife and small children from the major ramifications of a tragic accident was what the cover up was all about. The train they boarded became a runaway they could not disembark. I am disappointed to see posters like missbeetle without a ban, with her stupid, juvenile and disgraceful posts about the clothes and styling of the couple and their children, It is a playground full of spite and if you dare challenge Mr B his acolytes go no the attack. So pathetic I am not going to waste another keystroke on comment about the once good JH forum. It is imo in its death throes, thank God.

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  50. "To me a man protecting his wife and small children from the major ramifications of a tragic accident was what the cover up was all about. The train they boarded became a runaway they could not disembark"

    **************************************

    A man protecting his wife and children who took little time in setting up a Ltd co which has made £milllions. The train he boarded could have been disembarked at any time over the past 7 years, but it was a lucrative business.

    After all Madeleine had gone, no doubt there was no bringing her back, so why turn your nose up at £millions being thrown at you.

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    1. @anonymous 07:03

      Well Said!

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  51. To anon @06.30
    That will be reason I didn't see it then. When I'm faced with a sea of blue ink, my eyes glaze over and I'm out.
    Same with Lazerri, she makes a point but then repeats it a further ten times. I trust those who sent her most recent blog to the press cut it down somewhat or it will have gone straight to the shredder.

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  52. @06.41 I agree with your post almost entirely. Took some time to work out that WLBTS is what lies behind the sofa and there are a couple of my favourite posters not signed in. Hope they are enjoying a holiday and haven't been banned.
    I believe though that the woman was protecting the man.

    To someone who asked why we hadn't spouted our dislike of Bennett before, well we did and got banned. I don't post anywhere else such as Justice Forum, too much of a muddle over there. Used to be on Joanna's site but the Bennett name isn't welcome there. A pariah all round then?
    I'd be interested in who pays for the JH site as she implied it wasn't her. Certainly not Bennett, he's tighter than a duck's backside!

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  53. I have just been over to Havern and they are battening down the hatches. I can no longer view anything without logging-in and I have no intention of doing that! Bennett and his followers have caused the forum to implode upon itself like a black hole that it has indeed become

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    1. Some of the discussions can still be viewed on the Portal, although access is very limited. No doubt they're still working out how to close that down too.

      Google Jill Havern Portal, and it will get you there.

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    2. @ 07.50 So why would you want to view it if it's "imploded"? as you say? You're all slagging the forum off calling posters names etc but you still want to view it? Doesn't make sense?

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    3. Anonymous22 August 2014 08:14
      @ 07.50 So why would you want to view it if it's "imploded"? as you say? You're all slagging the forum off calling posters names etc but you still want to view it? Doesn't make sense?

      -----------

      Because many people are still interested in what happend to MBM and whatever is posted on the JH forum has some relevance as to the covering up of her "demise". If TB is directing thoughts and posts away from what actually happened, that could be very serious if he has his own agenda.

      Also, people are very nosey, and still want to know what is going on on other forums. If you've been reading a forum for some years, it's very hard to break the habit. It's such a shame that the JH forum is going down the plughole because of one poster, but they must have their reason for supporting that particular poster.

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    4. I left at the moment I knew that reasonable discussion was no longer possible there. I have had no problem going cold turkey and it's a joyous release! Would recommend to any JH junkie.

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    5. Anon at 08.48

      You have a lot of will power, not many of us do.

      I'm the sort of person who likes listening into other peoples' conversations in a coffee bar and likes looking into people's windows when I'm on the train coming home from somewhere (if they haven't shut their curtains that's their problem) or when I'm walking my dog I like looking at people's gardens to see what plants they've got that I haven't got.

      Just call me plain nosey I don't care, hee, hee!

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  54. Anonymous22 August 2014 07:37

    Oh please carry on deleting him, it is such a relief to be free of his garbage spouting
    .........................................
    Oh yes please, keep deleting him and without apology. He should be apologising to you for the accusation that you meddled in a criminal investigation.
    Big girls pants on Christobell and tell him to sod off!


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  55. Anonymous22 August 2014 07:10

    There is an email from Bennett today on the 'Members with 0 posts' thread.

    Yes I expect a lot of deleting going on at JH. I will be investigating who has hacked my personal email account. As far as I know hacking another person's email is an offence under the Computer Misuse Act
    ...................................................
    How can you tell if your email is hacked? I looked at mine this morning and a whole conversation had disappeared. Nothing to do with JH I may add. However I googled the problem and it did say that if a whole chunk was missing it may have been hacked.
    Can't think why anyone would want it as it was about caged dogs in Vietnam. I've just paid £70 to have extra security put on the lap top too.
    How did you know?

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  56. Life's too short to waste time reading Bennet post about all the traitors as he no doubts sees those posting here.

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  57. I googled "running a forum without moderators" and apparently it results in chaos.
    Remember anyone, when the Mirror forum was infiltrated with porn? Imagine those with a racial agenda? Could result in prosecution.
    Some like MSE and digital spy rely on their own posters to report spam etc, but there still has to be someone to remove the offending post.

    I wouldn't mind a forum that charged to register,( that alone would keep tight wad out) and had limited operating hours. Rarely do valid posters come on during the night.

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  58. I can confirm that pms were read and altered on 3a.. History repeating itself? I too have sent pms on Bennett's forum but got no reply from fellow members. Censored?

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  59. There is no reason why anyone should fear possible email attacks and the likes...Your just wasting your money if your looking for extra protection. One thing we must never fall under is paranoia...If you get anything suspicious, just send it to the garbage bin. All will be fine.
    The police wont be knocking your door either.
    If you fear attack....Then they will try to attack. DONT GET PARANOID...
    Ignorance is bliss......

    CH

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  60. Do not be naïve folks . If you post on forum I can guarantee you that your pms will be read.

    No need to get paranoid otherwise. I would think the danger of having email account hacked is next to zero.
    Don't get me started on Tone the combs' research. Murat is Bessie mates with Smith and Jenny Murat was Bessie mates with Mrs Fenn dontcha know.

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  61. Things are looking far different on JH. The sock drawer may have been cleared and new socks brought in, but why are members who haven't posted in months doing so now? Ah, maybe the threat of deletion?
    Sorry, I've answered my own question.
    Well that's one way to rally the troops, ........... threaten them!

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    1. I wasn't even threatened with deletion just whooshed! Can only get in through the Portal now....Fascists!!

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  62. Nah, they are just activating old socks. Giving them a face and sending them into battle.

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    1. The usual suspects on that crap forum will have numerous socks each.
      What a joke that forum really is. Laughable.

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  63. I'd love it if somebody did a TB on there and spammed every thread in blue text with stuff like: 'the ten questions Bennett must answer', 'the five lies told by Bennett', 'Ten FACTS about Bennett' etc just to show them how irritating it is when one poster spams a whole thread stifling debate.

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  64. For goodness sake, this is getting ridiculous. Do you realise what you all sound like? A rampant gang of school kids snitching behind the bike shed. If you're going to create an alternative web site you wont get very far if the only purpose is to wage war and spit venom on another forum.

    Unless of course you wish to end up like Stop the Myths.

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    1. This is about Cristobel's attention seeking as usual...she must be feeling very important today in the crusade for backstabbing JH forum.

      Funny how everyone moaning and bitching here doesn't run their own forum innit...even Cristobel can't be arsed to start one - doesn't have the ability to cut and paste apparently. It must have been awful working with her, you'd be afraid to go to lunch.

      JH forum are still talking about what happened to Madeleine.

      What's this blog doing?

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    2. So you think it is ok that people have had their PM's read by Admin and TB? That TB uses various socks to augment his theories and arguments? That TB also uses socks to pick on and intimidate posters that don't agree with his theories? That posters can be banned without explanation, or the right to defend themselves? That posts are removed without any reason except that they question the validity of TB's research?
      People feel used and abused and without the opportunity to voice their disgust of the way they have been treated on the forum that perpetuated this. cristobell has very generously allowed them to do this here.
      If YOU don't like it BOG OFF.

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    3. I think it's quite apparent that if your still on the Jill havern forum then you have well and truly been brainwashed.
      If you had 2 brain cells to rub together then you would realise what that cesspit forum is really about. Which is nothing to do with truth and justice for poor Madeleine.

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  65. I am so glad to read the comments here. I too felt uncomfortable at the goings on there. The vendetta about the sinking mud crap, personal comments re:appearance etc, serious paranoia about paedophilia and to top it all the slandering of the Smiths. I couldnt believe my eyes when I saw this first. I am a relatively new poster, was this opinion of the Smiths a new thing or has Tony always said this.
    I am also worried about my personal details as my name is in my email anda quick google will bring up other details. Can I deregister?
    Lastly, why on earth is msbeetle still there, it is like a wind up of the whole forum, tk see who is dumb enough to answer. Someone is having a good laugh there.

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  66. Actually Stop the Myths constantly posts rebuttals to the 'facts' you parade as the truth, but you are all so brain dead you prefer to ignore them. I expect the venom to start against MilesDKAB now, for posting repeatedly on twitter that there was no blood found in 5A.

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    1. Rebuttals? They are not even as convincing as 'the dog ate my homework' lol.

      Now here's a little message to you and your fellow lobotomised members of STM's, I'm not publishing your filth here. Got it? It goes straight in bin unread.

      Clearly the poor fools thought unmoderated mean't they finally had a place that welcomed them. Wrong. You are as despised here as you are everywhere else, I have zero interest in your inane, repetitive shite, you don't have a decent writer or free thinker among you. Gerry has your brains and bollox in a jar alongside his wife's heart and his secret money stash.

      I get the last word around here, and the word is Fuck Off. Ok, its two words, but who's counting.

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    2. You go girl! This moderation I like!

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    3. Rebuttals? They are not even as convincing as 'the dog ate my homework' lol.

      Now here's a little message to you and your fellow lobotomised members of STM's, I'm not publishing your filth here. Got it? It goes straight in bin unread.

      Clearly the poor fools thought unmoderated mean't they finally had a place that welcomed them. Wrong. You are as despised here as you are everywhere else, I have zero interest in your inane, repetitive shite, you don't have a decent writer or free thinker among you. Gerry has your brains and bollox in a jar alongside his wife's heart and his secret money stash.

      I get the last word around here, and the word is Fuck Off. Ok, its two words, but who's counting.

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      ;) Thats the way to go girl.....I knew you had a fuckoff in you :)

      CH (ChillyfuckingproudofyouCristobellheat)

      We collectively were able to see through the shite....Ours and your eyes are open.


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    4. Me too. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Tony and Jill. Sad acts.

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    5. Rosalinda Hutton22 August 2014 12:50

      Rebuttals? They are not even as convincing as 'the dog ate my homework' lol.

      Now here's a little message to you and your fellow lobotomised members of STM's, I'm not publishing your filth here. Got it? It goes straight in bin unread.

      Clearly the poor fools thought unmoderated mean't they finally had a place that welcomed them. Wrong. You are as despised here as you are everywhere else, I have zero interest in your inane, repetitive shite, you don't have a decent writer or free thinker among you. Gerry has your brains and bollox in a jar alongside his wife's heart and his secret money stash.

      I get the last word around here, and the word is Fuck Off. Ok, its two words, but who's counting.
      ...............................................
      Flip me Ros, when I suggested you put big girl's pants on, I wasn't expecting Sumo sized. Even my dog's quivering in his basket.

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    6. Anonymous22 August 2014 12:10

      I am so glad to read the comments here. I too felt uncomfortable at the goings on there. The vendetta about the sinking mud crap, personal comments re:appearance etc, serious paranoia about paedophilia and to top it all the slandering of the Smiths. I couldnt believe my eyes when I saw this first. I am a relatively new poster, was this opinion of the Smiths a new thing or has Tony always said this.
      I am also worried about my personal details as my name is in my email anda quick google will bring up other details. Can I deregister?
      Lastly, why on earth is msbeetle still there, it is like a wind up of the whole forum, tk see who is dumb enough to answer. Someone is having a good laugh there.
      ...........................................
      No you cannot remove your registration, it's counted in to the many over the years who have been and gone whether from choice or not which is why membership is so large.
      Best change your pass words. I do this, don't know the term for it.
      IWillNeverGoNearThatSiteAgainSince2014* So. Iwngntsas2014* Choose any phrase of course.

      I have no idea re. Ms beetle. That poster does seem to have an extraordinary catalogue of photos, almost in an instant to hand.
      To answer your first question, I don't follow Tone the Drone as I tend to leave at the first sight of blue pen, but I think the Smith obsession is fairly new.
      Imagine being his long suffering wife.

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  67. Cristobel sheeples all coming out of the woodwork. The more the better so that people can see them for what they are.

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    1. Sheeples? You're kidding me, right? I don't recall Cristobell asking anyone to believe anything. There are no 50 facts here, no blue comments, no preacher and no sermon. And zero manipulation/bullying tactics. Go back to your leader, you clearly can't think for yourself.

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  68. Anonymous22 August 2014 11:43

    For goodness sake, this is getting ridiculous. Do you realise what you all sound like? A rampant gang of school kids snitching behind the bike shed. If you're going to create an alternative web site you wont get very far if the only purpose is to wage war and spit venom on another forum.

    Unless of course you wish to end up like Stop the Myths.
    .......................................................................

    Is that the forum that feeds from other forums like JATYK? A forum that carries no opinions but simply copies and pastes? OMG, that is so weird!

    At present, this is a cathartic exercise for some of us who have loathed the spelling, grammar correcting being named Bennett for years.

    If the Bible Spewing hater wasn't there, JH would be a good place.

    I don't give a fig whether you approve.

    Fact is so many of us have rallied round Christobell whether we agree on her opinion or not,( I do) because we loathe Bennett and he has brought a good forum to it's knees.
    Poor Jill. He's a convincing liar.
    Sorry candyfloss, we all love you here in spite of you banning us.

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  69. This little thread is more vibrant than anything I have read on JH in the last 6 months. So what if people are venting, they need to let off steam and understandably so. It's alive!

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    1. Alive it might be but it's not achieving anything is it?

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    2. Achieve? What does that mean to you? It is what it is. A place for like minded souls to gather, to share, to heal wounds. This is what is required here and now.

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  70. Cristobell said "Rebuttals? They are not even as convincing as 'the dog ate my homework' lol.

    Now here's a little message to you and your fellow lobotomised members of STM's, I'm not publishing your filth here. Got it? It goes straight in bin unread.

    Clearly the poor fools thought unmoderated mean't they finally had a place that welcomed them. Wrong. You are as despised here as you are everywhere else, I have zero interest in your inane, repetitive shite, you don't have a decent writer or free thinker among you. Gerry has your brains and bollox in a jar alongside his wife's heart and his secret money stash.

    I get the last word around here, and the word is Fuck Off. Ok, its two words, but who's counting."

    Ah, so now it's your site you call the shots but you don't like it when CMOMM do it. I see, got you now.

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    1. gaspergooglestatemants is the poster with the vulgar mouth and even more vulgar avatar.
      She/ he thinks anyone posting here is on the team McCann payroll?

      when a stream is poisoned at it,s source the poison doesn,t just stay there it flows through the river.

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    2. "googlegasparstatements" never post when you have been drinking .

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    3. "Google.gasper.statements". is one of a few remaining followers of the clinically certified madman FLEFFER aka tony Bennett and is known for his loving nature and command of the english language.

      wikipedoia

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  71. seem like googlegasparsatatements has come down the same strain of paranoia that TB has. .some posts must have touched a nerve

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    1. And now Admin joining in with red text in case the minions don't see it if it's written in black, quoting the comment which Cristobell sensibly deleted earlier on in the day.
      Unsurprisingly, Admin doesn't mention that it was deleted. I wonder why that is.

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    2. And making unsubstantiated accusations again. Blaming it on Andrew77.

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    3. Admin is Tony! I noticed he uses red when talking about Cristobel. Freud would have a field day.

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  72. Anonymous22 August 2014 14:15

    Alive it might be but it's not achieving anything is it?
    ...................................
    Such as find Madeleine? No of course not, but at least it's honest here rather than discrediting witnesses.
    Take care Ros and don't do too much as you said you have health problems.
    Nite all.

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  73. Well there you go, showing you are completely incapable of rational discussion with people offering facts to counter your lies. This IS a fact - you were ALL told what Bennett was like. But no, you had to treat him like a well informed, reasonable person. He's a monster with a serious personality disorder. So suck it up, you've been 'friends' all these years, you helped create him. It's most amusing.

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  74. Dear Cristobell,
    I'll be sorry I won't be seeing anymore of your posts on the JH Forum but that's their loss, I've noticed you have never attacked anyone's opinions first, only defended your own, it won't be long before the JH Forum implodes from within, I can't understand why people want to force their self opinionated views on others and respect people have their own take on things.
    I used to belong a forum many years ago and left because there was a few members who thought because they'd been on longer than me, could force their opinions on me, and got quite nasty when I wouldn't be a nodding donkey!! After that experience I've never joined another forum since.

    Take care B

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  75. Hi Ros,
    I'm on the forum but don't post, just read. Too intimidating. I agree you have never been nasty and rude to posters. All I want as I am sure the rest of you do is justice for a little girl with no voice. I hope you do start up a forum, I would be happy to contribute xx

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