Saturday, 17 October 2015
UPDATE 19/10/15 - So, who doesn't want the truth out there?
http://www.theuntoldstoryofmadeleinemccann.com/
UPDATE 19/10/15 - So who doesn't want the truth out there?
The personal attacks on myself and Sonia Poulton are relentless and most of them are coming from the antis in the form of the CMoMM forum, who claim to be fighting for justice for Madeleine, but who are in reality, doing everything they can to silence those who are trying to get the truth into the public domain.
On the forum where I currently post, http://maddiemccannmystery.forumotion.co.uk/portal, several members accuse myself and Sonia of using this case to advance our careers - as if that were a bad thing! Doesn't everyone try to advance their careers? I find the British idea of NOT trying to win, and NOT trying to be successful, ridiculous.
Why is it wrong to try to advance your career? Should we all be aiming for mediocrity? Should we all be 'umble and unassuming? Are we not allowed to take or expect credit for the work we do? I know those were the rules when I was having the catechism pounded into me at the age of 6, but I discarded that nonsense decades ago.
I, and indeed Sonia, are using our talents to get the truth of Madeleine's disappearance into the mainstream media, something genuine 'antis' have been trying to do for years. And as a respected mainstream journalist, Sonia has the talent and the connections to make this a reality.
As for myself, my writing and my blogs are read by thousands, including newspaper editors, police, psychology students and ordinary members of the public who like straight talking articles that sort the wheat from the chaff, and give a reader friendly perspective of what is going on. I have studied this case in depth for 8 years! I know it inside out and upside down and I am quickly able to distinguish between fact and bullshit. My enemies are, understandably, those in the bullshit category.
The idea that any documentary on this case should be made by a Mother Theresa doppelganger, or 'he who is without sin' are absurd. As too is the idea that only paragons of virtue have the right to challenge discrepancies in criminal cases and outright corruption. When a documentary or film is broadcast, the viewers are only interested in the CONTENT of said documentary and film, they care very little about the private lives of those who made it.
And for those who claim I am trying to profit from the death of a little girl, I should point out that I was commenting on this case in my own name and with my own face when I got a book deal with a major publisher (Random House). Any 'normal' author would at that time have shut the fuck up knowing the huge amount of damage criticising the McCanns would have on their writing career. I continued speaking the truth, and yes, I suffered for it. Those who claim I am using Maddie, need only look at the negative reviews I get for my books, commenting on this case has done my writing career no good whatsoever.
I do have a personal interest in getting the truth about this case out into the open. Having been on the McCanns' 'McCarthy Blacklist', I lost my job, my home, my friends, my health and on occasion, my sanity.
I very rarely talk about the way in which my involvement in this case has affected my life, because I despise pity. My childhood dream of becoming a successful writer is based on hard work and talent, not the pity vote. I accept that if my last book didn't make it, it was because it wasn't good enough and I must try harder. I don't blame other people, I blame myself. I work at perfecting my craft ALL the time. My writing is an obsession and I am my own harshest critic, I only publish about the half the blogs I write, the rest are not up to scratch or need more work.
My involvement in the Madeleine case was not pre-planned or pre-meditated, it just happened. Even if I had wanted to abandon the case and turn my attention to other topics, it wasn't possible. Team McCann had their teeth stuck into me like a rabid pitbull, I was at the top of their Blacklist and they were determined to destroy me. And as we all know, they don't play nicely.
Like Goncalo Amaral, I care very much about my reputation and the legacy I leave - it is the reason ALL my works are based on honesty and integrity. I will not sit back quietly while people are calling me a liar and blackening my name with sick and malevolent accusations. I have the means and the ability to rebut every disgusting thing they say, and I will. Turning the other cheek was binned along with the catechism. I have a reputation to recover, and like Kate McCann, I am a finisher.
Those anonymous creatures who are now throwing rocks at me, have taken no chances and no risks, their lives are completely unaffected by the comments they post in forums and on twitter because they shield themselves with a fake modesty umbrella. They are too 'umble and virtuous to reveal their real identities and they are more than happy to join in the stoning of any attention seekers. Attention seeking being a far greater crime than the murder and disposal of a small child. The hypocrisy of those shouting 'think of the children' while hiding behind walls of anonymity and in a vermin ridden cesspit, never fails to astonish me.
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UPDATE 17/10/15 - NONE BUT THE BRAVE
To the pessimists out there who believe this case will never be solved, and that Sonia's documentary will never be aired, I think a few rudimentary facts need to be acknowledged. The harbingers of doom, seem to have little, or no knowledge whatsoever, of the way in which the media industry and life in general, works. With their tin foil hats clamped firmly down over their ears, they have analysed the limited information they have, and decided the world ends in 7 days.
For their information, and indeed for those influenced enough to have begun digging out a bomb shelter under the patio, documentaries have been pointing out discrepancies in high profile criminal cases and major cover ups for years, its what they do. One could argue that it is the reason the entire documentary making industry exists.
The much too simple fact is, mainstream television, Panorama, World in Action, etc, have no shortage of subjects, they are inundated with news stories every day, stories that are of current interest to the public and stories that are not protected by multi million pound lawyers. 99 times out of a 100, stories will be discarded because they are simply not worth the time and trouble. Individual journalists choose the topics THEY want to focus on, topics they personally are passionate about and ones that they want to investigate Topics that they hope will capture the zeitgeist. And once they have produced their masterpiece, they move onto the next subject, as I said, it is a fast moving world, and they don't want to be tied down in a complex legal battles, or he said, she said, squabbles on social media.
That is not to say, that they don't take on seemingly impossible cases, of course they do, watch the BAFTA documentary awards, and you can see the struggles groundbreaking documentary makers with a passion for their subject, have had to overcome. If it was an easy business, everyone would be doing it and winning awards!
I am not sure what it is people expect from Sonia's documentary. Whilst the theories of the armchair detectives may be interesting, presenting one or all of them as the definitive explanation as to what happened to Madeleine McCann, is ludicrous. If she starts giving a detailed analysis (as worthy asit might be) of the telephone records, the last photo, Smithman etc, or accusing the entire clientele of a Warners resort of being 'swingers' (which would definitely trigger dozens of lawsuits), it would run to hours, and viewers would switch off in droves. Whilst all the detailed analysis may be of interest to the Cluedo players, the general public want the story in a nutshell.
Should add, while I am on a roll, the entire business of documentary making is Iconoclasm! And the most successful documentaries are those that attack large businesses and corporations. Documentary makers can and do, make documentaries about world leaders, media moguls, royalty and McDonalds, do people seriously believe the Drs McCann are more protected than them?
All documentary makers have hurdles and barriers to overcome, it is par for the course. As I said above, if we all had easy access to the secrets and machinations that go on in the corridors of powers, everyone would be doing it. But for the brave and the tenacious, they will carry on regardless and take the hurdles in their stride. They are fighting injustice, and it is a dog eat dog world out there, it is not for the feint hearted.
Documentary makers who go where angels fear to tread are the ones who expose the evil and corruption that goes on 'behind' the scenes, the places the rest of us do not have access to. And anyone who thinks that is easy, is seriously deluded. Naturally, when they are investigating sensitive subjects they will face walls of outright hostility. Try saying out loud a McDonalds Quarterpounder is bad for you.
When I began commenting on this case, absolutely no-one within the mainstream media was questioning the patently absurd abduction story. I wanted to know why, and the clumsy attempts by Team McCann to cover it up, made it all the more fascinating still. I'm one of those people that when someone tells me not to do something I do the opposite. I have a get out of jail free card, confirmation of lunacy from two renowned psychiatrists. Much as I want to keep my trap shut, I just can't. But, I digress, from the start, I have been trying to get the truth behind this cover up into the public domain, and I foolishly believed that that was what we were all here for.
Clearly there has been an establishment cover up in the case of Madeleine McCann, but establishment cover ups have been exposed in the past and will continue to be exposed in the future. Usually by daring, and heroic documentary makers and broadcasters.
All these doom laden statements about the documentary 'never being aired' and how we will all be deeply disappointed when it is, are I'm afraid to say, a projection of the doom mongers' negative view of the world. The reality is quite different.
Investigative journalists are used to facing opposition, it is par for the course, however, they very rarely face opposition from people who are purportedly on the same side! What would have happened if the makers of the Westbourne nursing home abuse scandal had faced so much public hostility? What about the Hillsborough documentary? The people of Liverpool will never forgive the Sun Newspaper, and the comments of the odious Kelvin McKenzie? The Sun is boycotted in the area to this day. Do you think the people of Hillsborough would have campaigned to stop a documentary exposing the cover up behind the tragedy? How about the people of Hillsborough up against the might of the Rupert Murdoch empire?
Sonia, should be getting support, not hostility. If the McCann case has taught us nothing, it has taught us the power of popular opinion polls. If the public are behind you, it is the most powerful weapon of all. The worst reaction to a documentary, would be 'who cares'. I urge those of you who do care, to get behind this documentary. The internet is the most powerful media weapon of the 21st century. It has not only taken over the tabloid headline, it has crushed it!
The mystery behind Madeleine's disappearance can only be covered up if the people allow it to be. That's how it works. In the days of the Lindbergh baby, there was little the people could do, but time have changed. The more we shout 'we know there is a cover up going on', the more the authorities have to listen. They have no choice, we vote for them. A cover up can only succeed if the people allow it to. Once, they become the collective 'we', a government, if it wants to stay in power, must accede to its' wishes.
The Madeleine mystery has dragged on for 8 years, because there has never been an effective lobby to protest against it. Arguably, you could also say, that there has been an effective lobby, because the McCanns were granted their review and they were granted an investigation. Operation Grange may, or may not, be coming to an end. I believe it is, but whilst there is a 'untold' documentary (that will go viral) looming and thousands of people all over the globe, watching online, the chances of it continuing for years and resulting in a cover up, become less and less likely.
If this case is to end with little Madeleine getting justice, then the more people who know and care about the cover up, the more likely it is that she will. Please share Sonia's teaser with your friends, your family and everyone you know. This case is not just about the tragic death of a small child, it is about the very real threat to ordinary people like Brenda Leyland, and to the way in which we will be 'allowed' to use the internet in the future. It is a direct threat to Freedom of Speech.
Social media pressure groups are the fear of everyone living in the public eye. Huge numbers can be bought and traded to make 'causes' appear more popular than they are. Equally, if a cause is worthy, it can get the publicity it needs. Lives are being saved, and injustices are being challenged. Public opinion, sways with the wind, it can be used for good and it can be used for bad. Get enough 'likes' on Facebook and you can form a Government.
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There's something very very fishy about the Brenda Leyland story, all Sonia can do in this instance is conduct rigorous due diligence and assume nothing.
ReplyDeleteRos says "This case is not just about the tragic death of a small child,"
ReplyDeleteIt is about the case of a missing small child!
The alerts by the blood and cadaver dogs in Apartment 5A, suggest Maddie is not missing, but dead and the parents know exactly what happened to her.
DeleteThat she is 'missing' and 'findable' are wicked lies to enrich the parents and their family and friends.
In your last posting someone supplied a link to an article regarding the unreliability of the 'cadaver' dogs. Did you read it?
DeleteI wonder if our Jimbob has ever has ever paid a cultural visit to Bury Art Museum?
ReplyDeleteFirstly, if you're confident about your film you shouldn't care less what any of us think.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, you'd get more support if you weren't both taking part in petty factional disputes/personality clashes.
Thirdly, frankly there's nothing in that trailer to inspire people to support you.
I do, however, agree with you that there's no rush.
If you're confident enough in your film to claim it will "go viral", great, well done. That confidence should be your support. You don't need any from anywhere else.
ReplyDeleteIf there's no rush, requests for support in the meantime make it sound like a vanity project. I'm sure it isn't but that perception is the source of a good deal of the criticism.
Everyone's needs support 20:05, even incumbent Presidents carry on campaigning.
DeleteYou will have to define 'vanity project', I can't say I'm clear on it. Whenever I embark on a project, I want it to be the best it can be. Is that vanity?
We don't really know what prompted Cameron and May to fund a Review and open an investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Publicly, it appeared as though it was the compassionate response to the request of the grieving parents.
None of this has assisted the McCanns however. They have not been able to actively raise funds for more than 4 years, and their legal bills remain as high as they ever were. It will be a long, long time, if ever, that they will get their mitts on the £375k from Goncalo Amaral, we have all seen how the civil court proceedings in Portugal work. The lawyers meanwhile, must all remain on a retainer. If they are still employing a spokesman, teams of image consultants, professional lobbyists, spin doctors as well as lawyers, their outgoings must be through the roof.
As far as raising support now, is concerned, the Government and the Authorities can never be let off the hook with this case. I am sure there are many who like to see this swept under the carpet and they almost got away with it. Those of us who have been observing this case for the past 8 years have watched in astonishment, as people we previously trusted have lied to us with as many teeth as they have in their mouths. We no longer trust the authorities or the mainstream media. And we still don't know if Operation Grange are going to arrest those responsible for Madeleine's disappearance, or end like a Government Enquiry, with no-one being held responsible, but lessons being learned, and perhaps even new guidelines for what to do when your child goes missing.
In literal terms we are, collectively as 'antis', a powerful pressure group. We may despise each other, lol, but between us, we have managed to flood the McCann corner of the internet with enough information to satisfy the casual enquirer or the Phd Criminology student. We have kept the momentum going, we have not given in to the threats and abuse, or even the media scare tactics. We are still here and we still want justice for Madeleine.
Cover ups can only succeed if people stop asking questions. That is why it has been vital for Team McCann to silence the opposition, using every social media tool at their disposal. Over the years, I have seen hundreds of people 'scared off' by the bullyboy tactics of the Team McCann media monitors. It is the reason why the majority of the McCann critics have remained anonymous. It is been a dirty game.
I believe the Government know this case cannot be covered up, especially in light of the surge in support for Goncalo Amaral. The public are asking questions because many people have, myself included, have been doing our utmost to get the truth about Madeleine's disappearance into the public domain.
Until there are actual arrests, no-one will know for sure whether Operation Grange is a state sanctioned cover up. As we have already seen 'the establishment' intervene in the original investigation, we obviously can't rule the chances of it happening again.
Richard D. Hall has already made an in-depth documentary about this case and it did run into hours.
ReplyDeleteFelt like years
DeleteThe starting place for any documentary\or public comment on this case is, how the group of friends, after leading the investigation a merry dance for X years, Redwood drops creche dad to squash what was already a rediculous scenario of Jane Tanners sighting as the abductor. Which proved one point - the parents of missing Madeleine, had no idea when she actually (allegedly) disappeared, between checks.
ReplyDeleteWhy is it that when someone puts their neck on the line trying to get some truths out into the open they get slated? I've been reading various forums and am shocked at how nasty/spiteful people are towards Sonia, and others. These ADULTS!! should be ashamed of themselves and remember why we got involved. Most of us are here for the right reasons, others aren't, they continually try to undermine others, and pick a fight that's how they get their kicks.. then off they go, laughing back to their base to plot their next move.
ReplyDeleteAs far as Sonia's documentary goes, enough people ARE INTERESTED or they wouldn't keep harping on about when its going to be on air.
I have no problem with Bennett advancing his career 17:12, it is the way that he goes about it that I find despicable. Eg, his trashing of the reputations of innocent witnesses, who, through no fault of their own, find themselves involved in this high profile case. The man has no moral boundaries whatsoever and I consider his interference in this case to be criminal. I think he should be arrested for attempting to pervert the course of justice - his actions have nothing whatsoever to do with justice for Madeleine, Goncalo, Brenda or indeed anyone! He is currently dissing the findings of Goncalo Amaral and from his armchair in Harlow is claiming to know more about the investigation than the original Portuguese detectives. How does that help?
Delete@ Rosalinda, Cristobell Hutton19 October 2015 at 17:35
DeleteHave you reported his criminal actions to the Police?
As he is constantly bombarding the investigation with lengthy FOI requests, I'm pretty sure they know all about him.
Delete@ Rosalinda, Cristobell Hutton19 October 2015 at 17:44
DeleteI take from your reply that you mean "no". Maybe you should withdraw your accusation that he is acting as a criminal.
I consider his interference in this case to be criminal. There you go, 18:01, I've said it again.
Delete@ Rosalinda, Cristobell Hutton19 October 2015 at 19:14
DeleteNo need to repeat it - just report it to the Police - oh wait - you may wish to kick someone who stumbles in a pub car park first - it is your mindset.
Sounds like Resistor can't resist this blog.
Delete16:31 In my head resistor and susible had merged into one and become Risible. lol.
DeleteFor me they merged to become Resistible.
DeleteSo easily resistible that no one should have to read their dross again.
00:18. I feel a bit sad for Risible/Resistible, lol, they remind me of the 'orrible kid in the playground who would stomp off with his or her ball - there are no winners :(
DeleteHas anyone else encountered hideous computer problems trying to research or post on this case? I've been through four hard drives in three years! Some days what I've written seems to vanish and oftentimes I simply can't reply as the cursor freezes. Next level censorship?
ReplyDelete20:17
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately for Richard Hall, he based his documentaries on the theories of a man who believes the world was made in 7 days by a supreme being, and that scientists have doctored all their evolutionary discoveries to take God out of the picture. For Bennett, Darwin's theory of evolution is a wicked lie.
Bennett's approach to the missing Madeleine case is equally eccentric. In order to prove his own belief that Madeleine died earlier in the week, he has to trash the evidence of no less than 14 people! He wasn't there himself of course, but we must believe him, rather than them or Goncalo Amaral.
In the case of 'Smithman' he has had to trash the evidence of a family of 6 witnesses, ALL are LIARS according to Anthony Bennett (who wasn't there) including a 12 year old girl, who apparently was persuaded by her father to pervert the course of justice in a missing child case to help out a bloke he is on nodding terms with from down the pub.
For Bennett, the idea that less is more, is morally repugnant, it doesn't allow him to 'peacock' his research 'skills' or preach his lengthy, monotonous sermons, he believes that the more he talks, the more people will believe him, he is a bit like Gerry and Kate in that regard.
Unfortunately for Richard, Bennett's ramblings are as much a turn off on video as they are in the written word. If there were a boring Olympics, Bennett would get Gold every time, he has cornered the market. Happily, it is a very niche market, there is no popular appeal whatsoever.
I do feel sorry for Richard, but in allowing Bennett to bamboozle his work, the finished article was never going to be successful. If you are going to make a documentary about a factual subject, you have to examine it from EVERY angle, or it will become nothing more than a propaganda film for one, blinkered and distorted point of view. And in this case, we got 4+ hours of it!
So you admit then you are "advancing your career" with your blogs about this case. Is not hypocritical of you then to accuse in effect Bennet and others for doing the same?
ReplyDeleteI think I answered you above 17:12, but did anyone ever tell you, you would have been great in the Spanish Inquisition! Kudos. :)
Delete"Attention seeking being a far greater crime than the murder and disposal of a small child." Has someone actually said that, pretty shocking if they did, or has it just been brought up by you for effect?
ReplyDeleteI always accept ownership of my words HKP (honesty & integrity). Yes, it seems to me that several members of MMM have forgotten what they are supposedly there for, yourself included.
DeleteThis case is about the disappearance of Madeleine and the cover up that followed, yet you and several others are directing all your anger and hatred towards myself and Sonia, rather than the perpetrators of the crimes. And those crimes are ongoing btw.
I haven't committed any crimes other than 'attention seeking' - or to put it another way, attempting to get the truth about Madeleine's disappearance into the MSM. I have put my hands up and pleaded guilty (alert the firing squad), but as attention seeking is not a criminal offence and harms no-one, do I honestly deserve the wrath of mankind, orr more accurately, banishment from the forum you presently inhabit? Who are you? I don't see your name in the popular searches in the sidebar? So why should you dictate who should or should not be allowed to post in Candyfloss's forum? And, incidentally, my name is always there in that sidebar, lol. You might not enjoy my work, but others do. When I left CMoMM. almost 75% of their forum left with me and the entire forum collapsed.
I am not part of the admin of MMM, CF barely tolerates me, lol, (you really should have let me be the naughty niece CF, ha ha), she knows when I am posting she needs the smelling salts on standby. She doesn't stand for any of my nonsense (beautifully illustrated by chimpanzees, lol), and I can't say I blame her. The risk of the discussion sinking down into the mud and the blood and the beer are ever present whilst I am a member, she and dear Freedom, must be constantly vigilant.
I have no problem whatsoever with your not approving of my behaviour, not many people do, lol. However, in your hatred you appear to have lost the plot completely. I have pointed out how ridiculous you are being, by reminding you what we are all here for. If you see that as using the statement for 'effect', that's fine. When people are especially dense, it is sometimes necessary to use shock tactics to bring them back to reality.
I used to like HKP for taking on Benntt(sic) on the sewage farm but he seems to be on acid or something now.
Delete"Cristobell Today at 6:41 pm
ReplyDeleteIts like when you see some poor sod fall over in a pub car park. Everyone wants to join in with the kicking. Very odd behaviour. "
NO - most people would rush to help!
I'll fill in the gaps your imagination couldn't find 19:18. Drunken revellers, bar brawls spilling out into car park. For future reference, I often put little 'teasers' into my texts, they are designed to make a reader think, it makes it much more fun for all of us :)
ReplyDeleteAh "poor sod" is now converted to " Drunken revellers, bar brawls spilling out into car park" - and you still think everyone joins in kicking them - not good honest people trying to break the fight up and stopping it.
DeleteAnd you think your teasers about kicking people is "much more fun for all of us :)"
Lunatic (self confessed so not abusive)
Now it is clear that lazz-lies in the sun is Aquila.
DeleteHow much cash did she give Bennett? .
She says"she thinks he is an honest man".
Sorry Aquila/Fragrance/Lazz you have been conned.
Your time will come.
Looks like her Scottish mother must have mated in the family to produce an inbred like Aquila.
DeleteHer underdeveloped brain could explain her blind devotion to Bennett/Verdi/Fleffer etc.
Remember this is a convicted criminal who was reprimanded by the law society.
She can't say she wasn't warned about the wrong' un.
Agreed,lazzeri-lies -in the sun is Aquila.
DeleteIt is going to be a double wammy for the deranged eagle.Not only is she never going to see her money again but some day she will realise Bennett is working off his legal fees to McC's lawyers,hence his behavior.
How else can anyone explain his denigration of a deceased, decent woman Mrs Fenn.
DeleteBeyond contempt .
16:29. Agree, I saw the thread, his attacks on Mrs Fenn are absolutely despicable, he has absolutely no respect for other people.
DeleteIt seems as though he is systematically tearing down the evidence 'against' the McCanns, or at least trying to, wonder if we will see him in Defence team?
I've always wondered if he was a mole planted to gathering information for the other side. You can't be too careful on here.
Delete20:20 - self confessed lunatic? lol
DeleteDo you, and the other dim witted, honestly believe renowned psychiatrists hand out Certificates of Lunacy? Wonder what one would wear to the Awards Ceremony, presumably, a curly orange wig, a red ping pong ball nose and oversized shoes?
Please try to understand that much of my writing is tongue in cheek, wink, wink, I am not spontaneously combusting or gouging my eyes out, I didn't honestly believe that members of MMM wanted to torture me on a rack! (At least I hope not....) I am merely laughing at the images these situations conjure up. I try to spend most of my time on the sunny side of the street, and to be honest, some people really do need to lighten up!
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ReplyDeleteIt looks like the McCann's have a point, ''nasty people on forums'' This case has brought out the worst in people, it doesn't matter what forum you frequent you'll find bickering mostly because people won't accept that unless they were there, they couldn't possibly know who removed Madeleine from that apartment, It's all guess work, unless you have inside knowledge of course. Another reason for the animosity ''I suspect'' is people hate to be proved wrong, they batter their opponent into submission forcing them to retract their theory in favour of their own. why don't they just accept contributors have their own ideas they want to discuss? In real life you would at least listen to what the other person had to say without being so rude, so why not on here. If you dislike a person in real life you avoid them, so why not do the same on here, why spoil your day by trying to settle old arguments that you can never win because of the little Hitler's that have their little army of soldiers that will trample all over you.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you 21:36. This case has certainly brought out the worst in people. From the self righteous telling the world about their own perfect parenting to the out and out obnoxious revelling in other peoples' misery.
ReplyDeleteThere were thousands in the beginning, but most were what I would describe as free floating stalkers, they move onto the next case. A hard core however remained and they have clung onto their anonymity as if their lives depended on it. Still bitching away as if time has stood still.
I don't know if you caught yesterday's matinee, I was being torn asunder by a 'hero' called Hong Kong Fuey supported by several other unimaginative pseudonyms for several hours. They are just a bunch of nasty little scaredy cats, not one of them has the guts to say all those things in their own names! And not one of them, it seems, wanted to talk about Madeleine. They wanted to talk about how people like me shouldn't be allowed! They find my freestyle of speaking offensive, my SOH despicable and my libertarian attitude an affront to everything they know and hold dear.
In a way, I feel sorry for them. Why are people listening to me and not to them? I can see why that would be frustrating for them. I can only say, they should put all that anger and frustration towards finding ways in which to better express themselves, I am happy to have a debate with any of them, but how can you have a debate with someone who is hiding behind a door shouting 'your an attention seeker' and scuttling away?
I agree, they cannot possibly know who removed Maddie from the apartment, or indeed any of the details, but they are playing a particularly vitriolic game of Cluedo, with Colonel Mustard bumping off his opponents with a knife in the pantry.
But I jest, people do indeed hate to be proved wrong. And I have watched bemused as those who have set their own particular theory in stone, squiggle and squirm in their attempts to stay relevant. You just know when someone says 'I am right, dead right', they are heading for a fall.
Of course people don't behave like that in the real world! The way in which these people interact is like watching a particularly depressing episode of Eastenders. If people did act that way, life would be nothing more than a big old bar brawl, lol. And apparently, I hang out in all sorts of dive bars and dens of iniquity with other low lives, so I would know! (I wish, ha ha)
Talking of "own names" does anyone know the real name etc of Lazz lies in the sun who feels the need to attack Ros so badly she has shot herself in the foot.This is for research purposes.
DeleteYes, I did have a nosey in the other place that's what prompted me to post on here, hoping they read it and realise how they come across to normal thinking people!! They are using the same tactics as they did with me when I belonged a forum years ago. If you had your own views and wouldn't allow them to brainwash you they ganged up on you to drive you off the forum, along with reporting, and changing your posts to make it look like you'd said things you hadn't, how they did that I've no idea. I suspect some of them are from that forum they can't change the way they write lol :) I think they see you as a threat although you would never get them to admit it, don't let them grind you down.. you'll always be popular, it's proved by the amount of replies to your blogs, People come here because you're interesting, intelligent and funny, some folks just can't handle that so they have to discredit you like they do Sonia.
DeleteHow is it Rosalinda, you are called a liar and worse? Sonia the same for having an opinion. When TB lies through his back teeth we must keep our thoughts to ourselves, because it causes upset.
ReplyDeleteI think many forget that TB can only comment on Madeleine with the permission of the Macs and their legal team.
So did Bennett lie when he wrote on his facebook account "I shall never write about Madeleine again not even facts",. He repeated these sentiments on the BBC news and many other places and told the High Court he would abide by his undertakings.
Ask yourselves why he has not?
Then ask yourself why the Macs, not known for their generosity of spirit, reduced TBs court costs from £370,000 to £27,500 this was £340,000 lost from the search for M why would any parent do that?
What did they get in return?
Even more difficult to understand is why the Macs Solicitor Edward Smethurst reduced his costs by £45,000? Mr Smethurst's life had been made miserable by TB and yet he agreed to pay £45,000 towards Bennett's costs.
Does everyone forget this?
Apparently there was a deal struck where TB agreed never to speak about M again but he has never shut up. Therefore his denigration of all and sundry has the backing of the Macs and their legal team, this should tell you all you need to know.
If TB didn't pay the costs, who did and why?
I think this question should be asked every week but of course that would upset certain people, so the lies and deceit will continue.
Sonia's documentary may be insightful or not. Why not wait and see but we do know RD Hall's documentary is full of errors and nonsense, much of it provided by TB. Why anyone listens to Bennett is beyond belief.
CR could have claimed their costs were £1m but it doesn't make it true. Costs have to be proven. They and others of their ilk use costs as a weapon in the effort to make the other side cave in. Surely that's obvious?
ReplyDeleteIt is obvious to many,but if you have invested time,money and emotion in him ,as certain women on his forum have,then it must be difficult to see the woods for the trees.Much easier to shoot the messanger.
DeleteSounds like he was about to start grooming you Ros with that first meeting!You got off lightly.
I think you deliberately miss the point.
DeleteThese were awarded costs and TB was very grateful for their reduction.
If CR had handed over fraudulent invoices to the High Court I think TB would have complained having legal expertise.
Get real and address why these costs were reduced by 93%
Nice try Aquila,CR are not nice people ,there was a deal done.Expect another "I have sinned posts "from his phonieness soon.
DeleteTB has shown that his word means nothing. Expensive Carter Ruck can't seem to shut him up. What gives?
DeleteIt is hard to understand how someone can 'give their word' and then do the opposite. For most of us 'our word' is our bond and our honour, if someone breaks their 'word' you can never trust them again.
DeleteIt takes some believing that he was once a solicitor, I wonder how long that lasted. Another one who thinks he's above the law.
DeleteWhilst most solicitors are honest there are a few crooks amongst them. If you get reprimanded by the Law Society over clients funds then you are a crook.
DeleteTony Benntt
Carter Ruck doesn't want him to shut up but he only attacks witnesses that they approve of such as the Smiths or Mrs Fenn.
DeleteWhy does he never attack the tapas buddies of Gerry?
Never.
WTF was Tony doing when he went round unannounced to Mr Not-Playground Man's private residence instead of his office?
DeleteSo how did the McCanns make you lose your house and job, that sounds a bit extreme and I've never heard you mention it before. Lets face it, they took Tony bennett to court and he hasn't lost his home. I have no recollection of the McCanns ever suing you, nor have I heard of anyone else who commented on the case, even under their real names ever losing a job or their home because they disagree with the official story. Methinks you are exaggerating for effect!
ReplyDeleteRos I see that you say: "I, and indeed Sonia, are using our talents to get the truth of Madeleine's disappearance into the mainstream media,"
ReplyDeleteI know that Sonia has a yet unpublished documentary, but what have YOU done to get the truth into the mainstream media? I know you were interviewed on TPV, I know you were interviewed for an article in the Sun, but how else have you used your talents to get the message to mainstream media?
As if she's going to reveal what she has or hasn't done on here!! It's like asking someone to show their hand in a game of cards.
DeleteJJ, you're obsessed with the man. Not even his worse critic/enemy wanted him to lose his house and be bankrupt. The court wouldn't allow it anyway. I expect in any case creating a martyr wasn't at all what the other side wanted, and so they didn't. See? Easy.
ReplyDeleteThe Macs took TB to court to make him stop his quest regarding M. They won but he has not stopped. The Macs and their legal team rang up more than £ 400,000 in costs and wrote it off to save TB losing his house .How kind of them and how different to how they are treating GA.
DeleteDid TB lose his house ? Was he declared bankrupt?
The answer is NO
Many thanks for your posts JJ, they are much appreciated.
DeleteLike yourself, I cannot help but wonder what sort of deal was done in the corridors of the Royal Courts of Justice. Bennett gave the obligatory solemn undertaking to stop pestering the McCanns, both in the Court room, and on its' steps, then promptly went on to show that his 'word' mean't absolutely nothing.
Turning to the 93% costs that the McCanns so generously brushed aside. The figures were unrealistic (to the man in the street), and the public could well have asked why the McCanns were spending £400k on legal fees when they were supposed to be 'searching' for their little girl?
When they went to Court the McCanns had Bennett by the short and curlies, he did not know how far they were prepared to go. They rightfully judged that he is a coward - he is not the stuff that martyrs are made of. When he got to the Court room, he didn't fight for his right to speak the truth, he had centre stage, but he clammed up and rolled over! - Again, what deals were made outside the door of the court?
Bennett has, since that Court case, been as interfering and prolific as he ever was, yet, as far as we know, they have not bothered him since. It may be that the McCanns can no longer afford to pay lawyers from Carter Ruck to watch social media 24/7 anymore, Or indeed, it could be because they had bigger fish to fry in Lisbon.
Of course it could also be that Bennett's activities now assist them. He is systematically tearing apart all the potential witnesses for the prosecution. If any lawyers are still watching him, it will only be to collect evidence to request a mistrial. Meanwhile, his actions provide the fodder the McCanns need for their civil actions and publicity campaigns. He is evidence of the persecution they have to endure.
I think Bennett wants to be a martyr of sorts, but not one that involves prison, or poverty, or God forbid, death. He needs a popular cause to lead, something that appeals to the heart and the soul of the congregation. He needs a pulpit. He needs a flock of sheep, he needs a straight and narrow liquor free road, he needs an orange box in Hyde Park, and he needs a devil to blame when HE does something wrong. He is bonkers,
He needs to take up dancing!
DeleteHow do YOU Ros get the message out to the media?
ReplyDeleteYou might want to take a look at the hundreds of blogs I have written explaining how and why this case is a cover up and why we must not allow the tragedy of Madeleine to usher in laws that will directly affect our Freedom of Speech.
DeleteI have been campaigning to get this truth of this case into the public domain for 8 years, using my own name and face. So what have you done Anonymous 19:26?
"Cristobell Author @RosalindaHu 6h6 hours ago
ReplyDelete#BBCNEWS @PrinceCharles 'he's engaged with the President of China's visit, but not fully' - was that line written by @Aiannucci, lol"
Oh look - you are even loling the BBC now.
Anyone got a tin of wasp spray to get rid of these annoying little pests that keep getting under everyone's skin? ROTFL.
ReplyDeleteLazz/Aquila/Fragrance/Reptile really does need to get doorstepped but it would be better to wait till the McCanns are in jail and Havern/ Bennett are in handcuffs for the Maddie Foundation fraud.
ReplyDeleteCristobell and Sonia can then turn up with a film crew and ask her just exactly how much she knew about the Foundation scam.
Bide your time Cristobell you know these people are morally bankrupt chancers
23:09. Indeed. Why did Bennett have the need to set up a Madeleine Foundation? What were the donations and subscriptions for? I wonder how many donors thought they were giving money to 'find' Madeleine?
DeleteDid Bennett, like the McCanns, foresee years of litigation ahead? Maybe a statue or memorial to Madeleine, or to himself? Perhaps he wanted to start a new Cult? He see's himself as a prophet in the biblical sense, so I wouldn't rule it out.
The subscription was only a tenner a year. I don't know how many members there were but it's very unlikely that Tony was living the high life on the strength of money coming in that way.
DeleteBut how many people sent money thinking it was to search for this missing girl?
DeleteBlimey, just wandered into tigger's weird blog, she seems to have an entire website dedicated to me! I kinda know how that fella in Misery felt when he stumbled on his Number One Fan.
ReplyDeleteAs to her attempts to parody my writing style - well imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, even if it is off the scale creepy.
No one reads Tigger's weird blog as Tigger is too weird.
ReplyDeleteFrom the land of MarkTwain, Ernest Hemmingway and Harper Lee we now have Tigger!
She takes herself very seriously but she is probably senile.Just ignore.
Tigger was once a talented researcher - think Smiths! - but she has lost all her credibility now.
ReplyDeleteShe was Valerie, it's a shame. I feel a bit sad for her tbh. She is clearly a frustrated writer who hasn't yet found her niche. Sadly for her, every university lecturer has a manuscript full of research waiting for a publisher.
ReplyDeleteAlso, sadly for her, she is ruled by the codes and conventions of the last century. She believes that if she reveals her inner (or God forbid) outer self, she would somehow be washing her linen in public. What most wannabe writers fail to understand is that 99.9% of the people around them couldn't care less about their feelings or if they once had a fling with the milkman and took copious amounts of drugs at a rave. They barely care if politicians or celebrities have done it.
That is not to say that your inner thoughts and past (mis)deeds are not important, they are. To your family, to your descendants, to yourself. If you have done bad things, writing gives you the opportunity to give your side of the story. If you write your life story, it makes you reassess the way you looked at things and the way you handled them. And if you remember that you are looking at the younger, much less wise you, you can forgive yourself. Ditto if you remember you are looking at the much younger and less wise versions of your parents, you can forgive them too. It is quite a healing process.
Tigger, if she is not to make herself ill, should find a more constructive way of using her talents. If, as she claims, she is only here for Madeleine, why is she using her quackery to analyse me?
I strongly suggest she takes a creative writing class, or does a course online, it would be a real eye opener for her and it would hopefully give a more positive perspective to her writing. As narcissistic as I am, there are much more interesting things to write about than moi!
And no, Mr. fffukedy fffk fffk, Malcolm Tucker impersonator, I will not be publishing that!
ReplyDeleteTony Bennett reminds me of Jimmy Saville.He controls and manipulates people close to him.When they leave he tries to bully,threaten and intimidate them.Straight out of the Jimmy Saville Manual.
DeleteHe has got the same hair style as Jimmy,which looks a bit deviant.
DeleteTony Bennett can only control people if they allow him to do so! Why would a grown adult allow themselves to be manipulated by him, or anyone else for that matter.
ReplyDeleteHe might try, but he has no control over your thinking process, only you have.
How come Saville got away with it for so long .It happens. Some people are very gullible.Just read Aiyoyo's latest post for an example of blind deference.
DeleteUnless of course Aiyoyo was the person cautioned. along with HisToniness in the cottage/ing in Linolnshire.
Tony Bennett.
DeleteGod's gift to bloggers everywhere.
The gift that just keeps giving.
Do you get a cats file if you get caught cottaging?
Deletedepends if there were minors in the cottage
DeleteWhen will TB understand that no one is listening to him anymore?
ReplyDeleteOnly his pensioner pals are supporting him. Time for him to shut up before CR do it for him. IMO.
Makes sense him and Aquila being an item .He always promotes her blog(lazz in the sun) and she always attacks Cristobell and MMM on his behalf.
DeleteDon't know what she see in him but could be just trying to protect the money she gave him.
20:48 Jimmy Saville was a TV personality Tony Bennett isn't. The the reason people kept quiet about him (Saville) was because they'd lose their jobs if they blabbed, or the charities would suffer. Those that knew about Saville admitted that when interviewed after his death. I agree, some people are ''very gullible'' especially some on the CMOMM they're being led by the nose by Bennett and they just can't see it!! that's what happens when you become part of the flock, you get the wool pulled over your eyes, lol.
ReplyDeleteVerdi(Bennett) wanted to be an Elvis impersonator but with his looks and personality he had to make do with his Jimmy Saville Tribute Act.
DeleteDo you mean an Elvis impersonator for the blind? lol.
ReplyDeleteSo Ros - this blog and comments are how you get your message out to the media - what a message you send!
ReplyDeletebennett has only started a petition because he has been blocked from making vexatious FOI requests.
ReplyDelete20:27. Bennett is once again trying to insert himself right into the thick of it with his petition. He hasn't got a clue what Operation Grange are doing, therefore his actions are once again reckless and ill thought out. Why is he interfering with a live criminal investigation?
DeleteThe only people who would benefit from Operation Grange revealing what they are doing are the McCanns! They are so desperate to find out what evidence the police have against them that they took a civil action against Leicester police. Happily, they failed.
At the moment, Bennett is probably the best chance the McCanns have of asking for a mistrial. He has interfered with most, if not all, of the evidence and witnesses and he is now helpfully demanding that Scotland Yard show their hand, despite the fact that the investigation is still live. I expect most of the signatories to this latest 'show off' from Bennett, will be from McCann supporters!
Cristobell, These requests for information make me even more suspicious of Bennett's motives. Why does he think he has a right to keep bombarding Operation Grange with FOI requests, surely any person wanting a successful outcome, would wait until the investigation was complete before asking questions on how the money was spent, and then only if it reaches an unsatisfactory conclusion. I get the impression there's something very underhand going on with Bennett and his followers. I maybe completely wrong, but I can't understand why he continues when he's already lost part of his pension. Am I losing the plot here or could he be one of the McCann's paid workers.
Delete12:04. Why Bennett thinks he personally, has a right to see and publish the findings of OG before they have finished their investigation is indeed baffling. And I can see why some might think he is in the McCanns' employ.
DeleteI still have doubts about that. He is too much of a loose cannon and his 'word' means absolutely nothing. Seeing him at the steps of the Royal Courts of Justice promising never to pester the McCanns again, and then doing the complete opposite, would make him unemployable to anyone.
It might be that they have 'something' on him, a way in which to get him to do what they want him to do. Right now I would imagine they would go to any lengths to find out exactly what Operation Grange are up to. Enter Mr. B. with his petition.
But it is probably more complex than that. Bennett sees himself as investigator, judge and jury. He believes the McCann case is a huge conspiracy and he is the only one who can be trusted. The police, the government and indeed those of us who disbelieve the abduction story are all part of the conspiracy, especially if we don't accept his findings and his conclusions.
We saw his judge and jury mentality back in 2008, when HE decided the two remaining children of the McCanns should be taken into care. I think it was at that stage the MSM wrote off ALL the anti McCanns as deluded pitchforkers and haters. Without doubt, his stalking activities have given the McCanns protection they might not have had otherwise. When they went to Court in Lisbon, the only evidence they had of harassment and threatening behaviour came from Bennett's Madeleine Foundation.
Of course, the answer to every question is money. The subscription based Madeleine Foundation was set up alongside the McCanns' golden egg, the Madeleine Fund. Something that was bound to cause confusion to the donors.
Then we have the mysterious £350k written off by the McCanns in their civil action against Bennett. As I said earlier, martyrs are usually prepared to die for their cause, Bennett rolled over and agreed to a monthly direct debit, whilst still continuing to harass the victors. All very odd.
I asked him once why he meekly continued to pay the McCanns every month, especially considering the amount of evidence that was coming out against the McCanns, including the digging up of the area around Apartment 5A. Naturally, he didn't give a direct answer. his continuing to pay that £100odd quid to his sworn enemies each month without so much as a protest, doesn't make him much of a rebel.
When people are passionate about drawing attention to an injustice, they don't care very much about what happens to themselves. His answer to Judge Tugendhat should have been 'No, I won't be silenced' and damn the consequences. Instead, he kept hold of all his worldly goods and broke all his promises anyway.
Since making that promise he has also invested in 4+ hours of anti McCann propaganda (are Carter Ruck snoozing?) and he is trying to stir up an angry mob with his latest petition. He has adjudicated that Operation Grange are not doing their job and the 'authorities' can't be trusted. He see's himself, not so much as the People's Princess, as the People's Champion or more accurately, Witchfinder General (there are a few in this case), it is his duty to root out evil and stir up the masses. But, more importantly, he wants sales of Richard Halls videos to go viral.
Thank you so much for taking the time to clarifying things for me Cristobell. I'm absolutely gob smacked at how much effort! he's putting in to derail the investigation even though he's been warned, loose cannon indeed, and a very dangerous one at that. You amaze me with your knowledge about this case and your capacity to retain the information, unlike me with a one minute memory, lol. You're doing an excellent job a true fighter for justice, thank you.
DeleteTBs forum is showing many members online. How come none of them ever post?
ReplyDelete20:39. Good point. Although, should add, not only do they not post, they don't seem to read the current threads either. A quick glance at the number of 'views' per thread reveals that even the most popular only get around 10,000 views. This of course, doesn't in any way tally with the claimed 20,000 hits per day.
DeleteBennett and Havern are using the same tricks as the McCanns to make it appear that they are more popular than they are. They haven't gone as far as buying 'likes' yet, but give it time, lol.
I paid a visit to CMoMM last weekend after an absence of about a year and what did i find?yep i was logged in and not only me but my neighbour whom is also a member and they were also logged in.It is common amongst bad admins that want to make their forum look busy,me and my neighbour are considering bringing this to forumotions attention.
DeleteAnd admin CAN read PMs but it takes a good savvy admin that knows what they are doing.I have had it done to me on another forum.Clue to how it is done "ever had a password that does'nt work anymore"
Bennett makes a living by conning deluded idiots like Aquila .He knows how to spot and exploit them.
ReplyDeleteNot only Aquila,Havern as well.She must fear losing traffic and therefore cash if he goes.
DeleteSallypelt and Pennylane can't make a post without praising Bennett.Are they scared of being banned or concerned about their"investment"?
Sorry ladies ,it's gone.
To the writers of the latest poison pen shite, no, I won't be publishing your envious drivel, you will have to right (sic) to someone else.
ReplyDeleteAnd for your information, far from being a criminal sociopath (seriously? lol), the two renowned psychiatrists who examined me, agreed that I was good egg and NOT a liar (Court transcripts available).
I haven't made a child disappear, I haven't started a Fund for myself and I haven't interfered in a live criminal investigation, so your hatred and anger are somewhat misplaced.
Your rage is at your own inability to express yourself coherently. If you want people to listen to you, learn how to read and write properly and maybe keep a civil tongue in your head?
sondslikejeamUNRohasbEENintouch
DeleteHave to say, I'm very disappointed in JM, as she supports the convict Bennett's petition: "Well done, Tony", for what exactly? Acheiving nothing, except lining the pockets of the McCann's
ReplyDeleteAnd just so everyone can see the 'man's' own words, have a look here: https://youtu.be/2SBXdx1VoSk?t=1m20s
ReplyDeleteI see the old dear(aquila) is the only person posting to defend her hero!
ReplyDeleteHow sad.
Can Cristobell explain why she asserts she will not publish insults on her blog but does so, joins in and encourages such in regard to Tony Bennett and members of cmomm? I am truly interested to hear an explanation but won't hold my breath
ReplyDelete10:20 Childish I know, but as CMoMM has hundreds of pages devoted to my 'mental health' problems and to what an evil, despicable person I am supposed to be, it is a small act of retaliation.
DeleteThese self righteous pillars of the community are not quite as they seem, and to be fair, as they keep dishing it out, they can hardly squeal like stuck pigs when they get a little bit back.
Retaliation/revenge is never a good reason do do something.
Delete16:44. True, but I am human being, ergo I am fallible.
DeleteI see bennett has reported you to the police Ros.
ReplyDelete11:07. Yeh, good luck to him with that, lol. The King of Stalkers and Malicious Communications is complaining that others don't like his thousands of pages of libel and smears against others. I am sure they will be nothing but sympathetic.
DeleteHello all. Andrew here. Well Mr B and his lies has got me a short term ban from MMM. I did actually ring him up about an hour ago to ask him (10.50am), basically what the hell is going on and why he is yet again saying malicious stuff about me. He would not engage in a conversation and just went mute (but wouldn't hang up). Exactly like he did a few weeks back, when yet again he posted some rubbish about me, so I rang him to politely ask him to remove it.
ReplyDeleteI admitted that I joined that forum the other day and made 7 posts. Nothing to hide and just wanted to see what was going on. Then next thing Tony and Jill say a load of rubbish about me. He knows I can see through him and resorts to all this pathetic carry on. It really is so sad.
It looks like he wants me whooshed from the internet. Very bizarre. He keeps harping on that I have an obsession with him. I never actually said that. I said I had an obsession with finding truth and justice for Madeleine (haven't we all) and it snowballed into finding out what his agenda is. With his misinformation and rubbish it's quite apparent what he's all about. And it's not about Madeleine. JJ on here made some posts a while back and he seems to have worked him out as well. So have you Cristobell and he doesn't like it. Nor does Jill.
Laters.
Rosalinda Hutton, address known, Kent: 42/91200/15 - Publicly accusing another of being a paedophile: Malicious Communications Act, currently being investigated by Essex & Kent Police forces
ReplyDeleteAndrew, surname and address currently not known, Yorkshire: 42/96121/15 - Threats to kill, stalking and harassment: Public Order Act and Protection from Harassment Act, currently under investigation by Essex Police and their I.T. Unit
15:00. Bennett always follows in the path of Kate and Gerry, he now believes he can use the strong arm of law to force people to like him. He hasn't been able to silence me with his campaign of libel, smearing and harassment, so he is now claiming to be the victim, in the hope that my blog will be shut down and I will be arrested.
ReplyDeleteWell my conscience is clear, so too my blog and my words elsewhere. My spam box however is full to bursting with abuse and threats, all of which I am happy to hand over to the police, I've kept all of them and I am sure the police will have the means to track them all and get their addresses. Bring it on, say I. :)
If the police want to pursue this, that's fine by me. I have never been 'done' for stalking or harassing anyone - can Bennett say the same thing? I'll be sure to point out to them all Bennett's past misdemeanours and Court cases, if they are not already aware of them.
I wonder what the police will make of Bennett's stalking and harassment of witnesses in a high profile crime that is currently under investigation by Scotland Yard? Is it legal for him to publicly call them Liars? Is it legal for him to publish their personal and financial details on his forum?
I actually welcome the intervention of the police and find it quite amusing that Bennett has called them. Well done him!
For information, I have let Andrew respond here , but I want no part of the Andrew/Bennett conflict and won't be publishing anything further that goes along those lines.
ReplyDeleteIt may be a good idea to remove anything about bennett that you cannot prove - whether you posted it or someone else did.
ReplyDelete17:27 As I said earlier, my blog stands as it is, my conscience is clear.
DeleteHowever, I have since discovered that Bennett's report and the supposed investigation into myself are completely fictitious, as too is the crime number he posted on CMoMM. The man is a liar, and worse, he has libelled me all over social media by implying that I am facing criminal charges when he knows damn well that I am not.
The so called witnesses wouldn't have anything useful to say. Nothing that would result in the real perpetrators getting caught. Or else that would have happened a long time ago....The only people that are still interested in that Irish family, are those who are responsible for the girl's death and concealment of her body. At least they are lucky to have someone that actually "saw" the abductor...He even became "the focus" of the investigation... Better keep the myth going, like all other myths (neglect....Maddie alive and well until Thursday.....Mrs Fenn heard crying). All rubbish
ReplyDeleteI would like to make a second and last post, if you would be so kind to publish it Cristobell.
ReplyDeleteI am sick to death all this rubbish that coincides with trying to find the truth and seeking justice for Madeleine. It's absolutely bizarre and crazy.
Read some of the comments over on the Tony/Jill forum and it's nuts. He's reported us both to the police, I see. Funny that, as had an interesting conversation with Essex police myself earlier (who know the name quite well and very much disliked by all accounts - but will say no more just yet). He's libeled me for best part of 2 years now, making up all sorts of nonsense so his sheep will follow and applaud or what ever they do. Although most of his sheep are his own socks which is even more ridiculous.
Yes, I have stood up to him in the past. I got kicked off the Tony/Jill forum ages ago because of his bullying nonsense. I have never actually spoken to the guy, but yes I have rang him up several times to ask him to stop saying malicious rubbish about me. Although he will never speak. All for giving it the blue ink online and threatening old ladies etc, but when it comes to actually talking like a man, then no, he is a coward. A ridiculous one at that.
There must be hundreds if not thousands of people out there who dislike the lunatic. He posts his address and number all over the net. However it's very convenient to accuse me of whatever. Apart from the mods on MMM, then I've been the most prolific poster on the forum. The very forum that he has been trying his best to get shut down.
Now why would that be.
The truth will all come out eventually.
To all friends on MMM. Take care and fight for justice.
Regards,
Andrew
I don't want to get caught up in your fall out with Bennett Andrew, but I don't believe Bennett should get away with his lies either. The crime number he claims is assigned to me is a bare faced lie, I don't know if the same applies to yourself.
DeleteIn the meanwhile, I would suggest you join twitter - no censorship there! Best wishes.
Yeh, I have just got in from having dinner with friends to find all sorts of threats to me all over the internet because Bennett has implied that I am to face criminal charges.
ReplyDeleteI'm getting a bit pissed off now, because this is feeling like the Brenda Leyland scenario all over again. Tell an innocent woman that the police are going to 'charge' her, then all dive in with the hobnail boots.
To whom it may concern (Verdi/Bennett), I haven't heard a word from these two police forces who are supposedly investigating me on Bennett's behalf. Nor have I seen any Wanted Dead or Alive posters in the local vicinity. I am not sure what I am to be charged with; being a far more interesting and informed writer than Anthony Bennett perhaps? Is that really a criminal offence?
Since writing the above, I have now spoken to Essex Police. The crime number Bennett has put up on his forum has nothing to do with me (or him), it is completely fictitious! Once again Bennett, you have been proved to be an out and out liar!
Sorry,me again (Andrew). Quick update - This morning I have spoken to PC kavanagh and PC Rick of Essex Police (01245 491491 - didn't get his surname) Number - 76305. He rang back to advise that i take this to my local station, due to the seriousness of said allegations. (which is not Yorkshire Tony. Cheshire). The crime ref number that Tony posted was correct (in regards to me - don't know about you Cristobell). He also advised that I take this up with owners of forums where the constant libel of me is going on. Which will do. Will take this up with my local police and also as got a free day on Wednesday, I will drive down to essex police, with my solicitor and get this nonsense stopped once and for all.
ReplyDeleteSorry Tony, but you won't win this time, It ends very soon. (not a threat which you and your socks can use for your own personal gratification by the way).
Just honest, as I have always been. Something which you don't like and irritates you. Strange.
Regards,
Andrew
Did you contact Kent Police Ros?
ReplyDeleteWhat a berk, lying about a police crime reference number.
ReplyDeleteCasts all his historic "research" into doubt because if he'll lie about that he'll lie about anything. #Smithman
By legal binding agreement TB has agreed not to discuss the case of MM in his lifetime, not even facts.
ReplyDeleteThis is a matter of public record, but for whatever reason TB believes he is above the law and his word given to Justice Tugendhat is worthless and he defies the High Court on a daily basis.
Now it would appear he is attempting to use the law to frighten people who will not bow down before him.
The Macs have obviously rubbed off on him as he is now using similar tactics. Some could even think there is a distraction strategy in play for whatever reason.
This is the man who has lied over and over regarding the Smiths, Murat, Mrs Fenn etc, etc,
Do we forget the 100's of pages about Martin Smith's golf company and how Martin Smith was a liar.
Wrong Smith, oh dear.
Murat and Gerrys phones. Switched off for the same 32 hours, only they weren't oh dear.
TB needs medical help but Tony does not hate women afterall look at how he has deflected attention away from Fiona Payne for nearly 8 years now why is that?
Now why is that?
I have now spoken to Kent Police. Tony's complaint was passed to them on 15th October. It is not a CRIMINAL investigation, they have received a complaint and they will contact me regarding my side of the story, sometime next week, possibly. No Wanted Dead or Alive posters have been put out and I'm not expecting a dawn raid anytime soon.
ReplyDeleteTony has lied by saying that I am being criminally investigated by Essex and Kent police, the Essex police crime number he put up is fabricated and Jill Havern is libelling me by implying that I am facing criminal charges. Both Tony and Havern are doing exactly the same thing that was done to Brenda Leyland, they are lying about criminal charges and they have plastered these lies all over social media. This is a serious libel matter and one that I will not tolerate.
Implying that I am guilty of a criminal offence all over social media when I have not even been contacted by the police is LIBEL. Havern's forum is of course full of libel and smears, not only of myself, but many others, including the witnesses in a high profile criminal case.
I have a clean CRB, I have NEVER been in trouble with the police in any way, shape or form, and I am taking this libel very seriously indeed. You have been warned Havern.
To all those ugly hags on CMoMM jostling to insert themselves in Tony's rectum, you sound like a gaggle of embittered old crones regurgitating your bile daily because you have handed all your worldly possessions over to a two bit conman who isn't even attractive. I'm laughing at you.
ReplyDeleteFor those sneering at my lack of knowledge in criminal law citing my past experience as a legal secretary, the firms I worked for in London did not deal with petty crime which is usually financed by legal aid Their clients were the super rich and large corporations. Do they honestly believe that firms like Mischon de Reya and the Family Law Association supply on call lawyers for the local drunk tank?
ReplyDeleteAs for Bennett hiding behind Jill Havern's apron strings (again), is he seriously suggesting that Kent Police have told him I have been found guilty and am about to receive a formal warning? He reported me on 15th October (10 days ago) and I have heard nothing from them, least of all a formal warning.
Bennett also forgave me with the 'they know not what they do' martyred cry of the good Lord himself. Hardly the actions of someone who has received the result he wanted from the police.
Even Brunt didn't have the nerve to tell Brenda Leyland that the police had found her guilty without any form of investigation whatsoever!
For information, the 'your mad you are' form of abuse is a common ploy used by bullies the world over. It is rife on the Jill Havern forum and of course on JATYK2 and Stop the Myths. Haverns adding the very helpful addition that if I am driven to suicide, it was my own fault anyway. Nice people eh?
ReplyDeleteIt may be a good idea to remove anything about bennett that you cannot prove - whether you posted it or someone else did.
ReplyDeleteJust repeating what I posted yesterday.
Screengrabs are all over the internet now, so why would Ros want to do that? It would look like she's got something to hide!
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Deletehave you never hear of damage limitation?
I quote bennett and scrambling to try to get everything he had posted off the internet. Of course he wilfully failed and now continues - much to his future loss!
Agreeing to remove the bad stuff voluntarily always helps.
They've had nearly nine years and still haven't solved it, surely they must be doing something wrong?
ReplyDeleteRos,please don't stoop to bennets level by even replying to him on your blog,(he laps it up)yes he and his cronies have said some nasty things about you,and other people,It seems he doesn't like any one taking the limelight away from him,im also supprised that jill is allowing him to continue saying what he likes about you(or don't forum rules apply to him) ,any one else would have been banned.
ReplyDeletethank god most of the good posters have left there now.
Hi, Yes, me again, (Andrew).
ReplyDeleteFirstly I would like to offer my sincere condolences to Candyfloss. She has put up with so much nonsense of late and does not deserve any of it. I'm sure you will read this and my thoughts and prayers are with you.
Just seen that Tony posted something on his forum. Well in the Verdi sock and I quote...
"Meanwhile Mr. Andrew is fading into the background - you know, the one that made serious threats against Tony Bennett. Not so easy mate, how did you manage to so easily gain information from the UK police about a complaint made against you?"
Answer - Tony I spoke to them on 2 occasions (so far) by phone and off to see them Wednesday. Phone number and names, and rank number, supplied on previous post to confirm that. Quite simple thank you.
Cristobell - I know we have not seen eye to eye of late but I do feel for you and the abuse that you receive.
It's quite apparent that the JH forum, Jatyk2 and Stop the Myths etc are all working together.
It's absolutely crazy and sickening.
Take care,
Regards,
Andrew.
I see my name's been discussed on the cesspit, including by the convicted 'researcher'. Does he now disavow his 'profession', or did it disavow him?
ReplyDeleteI'll let you good folk know that I happen to be on fairly good personal terms with Chief Superintendent Carter where I live (i.e. mobile phone numbers), and we've had a number of interesting discussions about 'Cyber harassment' (re 1997 PHA), because a troll who harassed me was arrested for doing so. It's interesting that you'll find references to that piece of vermin on Bennett's forum, under the pseudonym of 'troll exposure'.
The simple fact is, plod's first question will be 'how much did the complainant *feel* harassed', because yes, you've guessed it, if there's the merest suggestion that they are not, then the complaint will end up IN THE BIN, LOL :)
Don't like what Ros writes? Then you know what to do, I take it?
Regards, James