Wednesday 27 August 2014

THE BEGINNING OF THE END - Part V

I feel a little bit like Adrian Mole, although I am an academic, I'm not very clever.  I had no idea of the can of worms that would be opened up by questioning the antics of Tony Bennett and CMoMM and it seems I am far from alone. 

I have now been doing the research I should have done before committing so freely to the JH Forum, and I am shocked at the murky history that lies beneath. I'm not going to libel anyone, but I strongly suggest readers use their google facility to do some digging of their own. I had no idea for example about the battles between the ex members of the 3 Arguidos, which seem to be ongoing.

A rabid anti, becomes a pro, and  the most vociferous anti campaigner is now doing his utmost to destroy the evidence for the prosecution. One thing I do know is, that the McCanns are very persuasive and have a way of getting people to do their bidding. 

I was asked to do a summary of all the comments that have come in. It has certainly been an enlightening few days for many of us, we are now seeing all the comments that would never have got through the censorship on CMoMM and indeed the other half of the story. Commenting at the moment however would be impossible because I haven't got a clue what is going on. 

Throughout the 7 years I have been commentating on this case, I have always been an independent, I have never belonged to any groups or teamed up with anyone.  I believed I was an 'independent' while posting on CMoMM,  but clearly I wasn't, the forum had an agenda and I was unwittingly part of it.

Much as I would like to drop this and get back to my real interests, I feel that I, and indeed many others, have been deceived and I want to know why.  If anyone knows the answers, please use the anonymity here to let us know.  Oh and please use this blog (Part V) to respond.


100 comments:

  1. Mr Amaral considered the Smith sighting to be of vital importance, hence his intention to return them to Portugal for further questioning.
    Tony Bennett is/was a great admirer of Mr Amaral, so his trashing of the Smith sighting seems even more odd.
    Unless, Mr Amaral has snubbed TB in some way and this is his revenge. As I've stated before, TB is a very vengeful person.

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    1. Look at your first comment. Indeed, you are not very clever. Get yourself a better shrink and deal with your real issues.

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  2. I remember reading a comment on Pat Brown's "Profiler" (a couple of months ago) where TB asked Pat if she thought the Smith sighting was genuine, her reply was yes. I did think at the time that this was a strange question for him to ask

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  3. A point to emphasize is since TB was convicted of contempt in February 2013 he is not allowed to comment on the Mccann case without the explicit consent and permission of Kate and Gerry McCann and the permission of the High Court.

    We can guess why Kate and Gerry allow TB to point the finger at Robert Murat and denigrate the Smith family.

    Although I believe the Macs had establishment help in the past I cannot believe Mr Justice Tugendhat is now turning a blind eye to TB's contempt. I am sure if TB's utterings of the last 18 months came to his knowledge, he would act.

    We can only speculate why the Macs and Carter Ruck have not done so. It would appear Kate MaCann is happy with TB's comments in the last 18 months.

    Does anyone seriously believe the McCanns and Carter Ruck have not seen the CMOMM in the last 18 months?

    TB would not now go up against the attack dogs of Carter Ruck unless he knew they were not going to bite.

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  4. It certainly is strange, as you say JJ, that there don't appear to be any repercussions with what Tony is posting.

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    1. I remember when I was a member of the JH forum a while back. Tony would always say something like 'for legal reasons I am unable to comment on that'. He would usually spout this when myself and other members would quiz him on his so called 'facts' etc.

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  5. At anon 04.20.

    GA snubbed TB on numerous occasions when TB tried to get him over here when the Madeleine foundation was active.(GA not a TB admirer at all)

    At JJ.

    You are getting very close to the truth there. Keep up the good work.

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  6. Not true JJ. There are things he cannot say (or repeat others saying) but he isn't barred from discussing other aspects of the case.

    (Some may wish he was, but that isn't the legal situation).

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    1. Facts can be libellous that statement by Mr Justice Tugendhat is one reason why I really cannot continue to make any MORE public statements about Madeleines reported disappearence.......

      It is time for me to cease making any more statements on the case not even reporting facts

      The above are TBs own words after been convicted of contempt. 3 May 2013

      Jill Havern who I believe is the owner of the CMOMM writes on 3 May 2013
      Tony Bennett has been gagged for life for seeking the truth about Madeleine

      Could I suggest you ask them why they both made these statements if they are not true?

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    2. No need to ask them. Afaik this is the last document relating to his case
      http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cgi?doc=/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2013/283.html

      It explains what he can't say (or repeat other people saying).

      You can read exactly what Mr Tugendhat said.

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  7. Tony will be under orders now to 'cool down' on Smithman (for a while).

    Sharon will be under orders to 'promote' Murat and bring him to the forefront of discussion again.

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    1. She's already doing that. She didn't waste much time after TB was "outed" in his quest to denigrate the Smiths.

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  8. bennett said on TV that he would not comment on the Mccann case again.

    How long did that last?

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  9. TB and his 'facts'. So relieved I don't have to read that drivel anymore.

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    1. anon @ 7:46

      Did anyone force you to read the drivel in the past?

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  10. So really Murat is the target, Smith the arrow.
    The fact that Smith said it definitely was not Murat seems to rattle Bennett greatly.
    I mentioned before that there was jealousy at the amount awarded to Murat and that he spent some on a World cruise on Honeymoon.
    In Bennetts twisted thinking he may hope that he can disprove the sighting, the whole thing snowballs and Robert Murat has to repay what he won from the Press.
    Had RB not have received a penny in damages, I don't believe TB would be being so vindictive toward him.
    TB had to pay up twice, while RB a former suspect gets 400k. That has to be driving TB mad.

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    1. Just a small correction to your post, do you mean RM not RB? I expect most people will know who you mean but there may be a few confused.

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    2. If Bennett's ego hadn't got the better of him he would not have posted off that leaflet "for research purposes" which was his downfall.

      Being a former solicitor you would think he would know all the tricks the McCanns would get up to to prod him into any action he shouldn't be taking, but he fell for the bait.

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    3. Anonymous27 August 2014 08:49

      Just a small correction to your post, do you mean RM not RB? I expect most people will know who you mean but there may be a few confused.
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      Yes should have been RM, I'm an ass for confusing others. Thanks for pointing it out.

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  11. I find it disgusting and quite upsetting that I've wasted the past few years of my life reading and posting on the JH forum even staying up to the early hours of the morning to read posts if I've been out all day, as have hundreds of other people, thinking that we were making a difference in finding out what happened to MBM. We've all now had that illusion shattered by finding out we've all been betrayed, not only by the very people running the forum but most likely by MBM's parents who may have a noose around the necks of TB, Sharoni and anyone else on their admin staff, to be forced to blame everyone and anyway for MBM's disappearance except the very two people who were responsible for MBM’s welfare.

    The skills of K & G McCanns' lawyers hold no bounds, WHO IS PAYING THE LAWYERS is a question many people would like answered

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    1. anon @ 8:16

      What makes you say you've wasted your time? Does what someone else thinks does says make any difference to your opinions?

      Wasn't there anyone else on the forum that shared your opinions to make your time spent worthwhile?

      I don't know why some people think Tony Bennett is the be all and end all, whether they agree with him or not. If he's working for team mac so what, If he's not working for them so what, he's not the law you know.

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    2. Don't be upset, you're in the company of many. I still poke my nose in from time to time in case of a decision in Lisbon. If it's bad news for the Mcs, chances are it won't make the Press.
      I find it rather ironic that the forum was set up to give TB a voice, and now he's destroying it. Feel quite sorry for JH really.

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    3. The donors to the Madeleine fund, or are they paying them from the last lot of damages.

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  12. I may be wrong but I don't think JH is in the Mcs pocket. She just dances to Bennetts tune. Had I been that close to TB for so long, I'd be wondering what he had stored in his dossier on me.
    What these people have stored doesn't have to be anything serious, but opinions and parts of our life that we wouldn't want to be known. After four years of McCann discussion behind the scenes they could be quite significant. He's paid his price, she hasn't and he will be well aware of that.
    She can't get rid of him even if she wanted to.

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    1. Yes, the thought entered my mind too, cannot believe the lengths some of these antis have gone to, to investigate each other!

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    2. By dancing to TB's tune she is also in the McCanns' pocket. If TB is financing the forum I can understand that JH has no choice, but if he isn't I can't see how JH is beholden to TB.

      Even if he has information on part of her life I can't see what difference that would make to the forum unless it has something to do with the McCanns.

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    3. The forum has recently cost me £20.54 to keep the googleads off for the next two years. I think I can come up that amount without Tony's help. Forumotion is free otherwise. It's just a personal choice for me to keep the adverts off.

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    4. jkh said

      "The forum has recently cost me £20.54 to keep the googleads off for the next two years."

      Wow - can't you set up an appeal for donations (don't expect owt from bennett)

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    5. anon @ 8:41

      How can *these people* reveal anything about you that you wouldn't want known? You must have revealed it to somebody in the first place in which case it's already known.

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  13. I always thought Murat was the drug dealer IMO.

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    1. Murat didn't fly out to Portugal until the early morning of 1st May I believe which was the Tuesday. The McCanns arrived on the Saturday before. If they were that desperate for drugs and knew of him and what he could supply I would have thought he would fly out at the same time they arrived in PDL.

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    2. so Murat the meth dealer - what next - Smiths the smack sellers?

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    3. Just trying to understand his connection to the group. Gerry no commented on knowing him, he was set up by the tapas group and his daughter looks remarkably like MM. "The biggest fuck up on the planet"! IMO he was blackmailed to rush back to PDL and do something.

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    4. I don't think that Murat is anything more than a well-meaning busybody who wanted to get in on the act. There is a good precedent for viewing such a person with suspicion; Haig, the acid bath murderer went to the police station "in case he could help". However, I don't think there is any real evidence to indicate Murat's involvement.

      I wonder who Tannerman/ Bundleman is? He has allegedly been traced and cleared. So: why is his image still on the McCann's website?

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  14. I find it incredible that people actually believe that bennett is actually acting on behalf of the Mccanns, government agencies, solicitors etc etc.

    Blame ANYONE apart from bennett himself.

    bennett knows exactly what he is doing and it is only to HIS benefit (as has been his actions on other cases) he cares for no-one else and it has been apparent to a lot of people for years and years.

    Get real and stop looking for excuses.

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    1. I can think of several reasons why TB would be getting so into dissing the Smith sighting. He was made powerless when he backed down from the the threatened libel writ and his only power is now in the forum. This combined with him being possibly bonkers makes the Smith subject safer for him legally whilst he indulges his obsessive tendencies. (I think he must hate Murat don't know why). It would also explain why even when presented with the evidence that Smith is not a mate of Murat he went Looney toons and accused CB. What I can't understand however, is why the forum owner has not put her foot down over this lunacy and told him to drop the Smith hounding??

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    2. bennett went to some event in the UK where Murat spoke and declared that he (Murat) thought the Mccanns were innocent. Hence his hatred of Murat.

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    3. anon @ 10:34

      Mass hysteria, it only takes one idiot to start the ball rolling.. Get real people and stop acting like a load of prima donnas with nothing better to do than inventing a shed load of rubbish about someone and something you know nothing about.

      Hard evidence is what's needed to convince people that TB or anyone else is up to no good. Until then put up or shut up.

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    4. "
      Hard evidence is what's needed to convince people that TB or anyone else is up to no good. Until then put up or shut up."

      Didn't a Judge at the High Court do that?

      And didn't bennett's TV interview afterwards convince people?

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  15. does no-one remember that bennett posted a list of people he wanted banned from 3As?

    They were duly banned and it wasn't a cosy "this forum is for bennett" forum which was set up just for him - havern's forum was set up to give bennett a place to post.

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    1. Yes he also compiled a list of people he wanted banned on the JH Forum soon after the Crimewatch programme last October. These were all newbies who obviously wanted to discuss the Smith sighting which had been brought to prominence by SY. I know because I was one of them.

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  16. I see the mass bans due to TB and disagreeing with his views on the Smiths were taking place back in 2013. Didn't realise it had been such a long campaign. Link for anyone interested, mass banning post starts at 24.
    http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/10/key-witness-identified-maddies-father.html

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  17. So far bennnett has issued apologies and in some cases paid money to the following people or people that support them:

    Mccanns
    Kennedy
    Smethhurst
    Grieg

    please feel free to add to this list.

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    1. Can't remember where, but I saw the horrible put downs he issued to anyone disagreeing in the Holly Grieg case. He backed down of course but like much else I have no idea of the truth.
      If such a ring existed with all the big names involved, I believe there could be a cover up. Citing the mother as having a mental condition is a classic defence.
      Did TB suddenly decide to withdraw from that case does anyone know? Was there a defining moment that said Holly was not abused and her mother was a liar? Why was TB's opinion turned so suddenly?

      The last example I saw of his nastiness was to The Rooster and Bluebag.
      Both stood their ground.

      Christobell. Your new site won't be Madeleine love her. She who lived away and visited for family gatherings.
      I do hope though you have a Bennett section where we can all post.

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    2. Jill Havern`s forum suddenly took an about-turn on the Hollie Greig case after a couple of people joined saying they knew Anne Greig and that she had a mental health problem and that her and Robert Green were liars. TB and many others on the forum believed the new members, so its risky to go on the forum now and say you believe Ann Greig and Robert Green (and also Brian Gerrish of UK Column).

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  18. bennett's request for bans goes back as far as Anorak

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  19. The thing about Hurricane Cristobel, like all hurricanes in fact, is that although they cause a great deal of havoc at their peak, that is really just their 15 minutes of fame. After that, they gradually dissipate and dwindle into, well, nothing. They are remembered only for the damage they caused. It's not for nothing that meteorologists give only female names to these horrible storms.

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  20. It's not enough to insult Cristobell, 51% of the population have to be insulted too. Very unoriginal, so tiresome.

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  21. Theres nothing like some good old fashioned sexism to make an old man feel powerful again eh!

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  22. Yeah maybe in the 1950's but not now. Hmm, I wonder who this woman hater who got his facts wrong might be?

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  23. My understanding is that it's Hurricane Christobal - a male name!

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  24. Hurricane Cristob 'a' l !

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  25. Ha ha ha, the narcissist in me is loving the name and the timing, though clearly others are not quite so amused. Perhaps its a sign and a new name for an anarchist blog!

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  26. I used to dip in and out of JH. Dipped out quite a bit actually - it could get a bit circular... I haven't been there in months - since around the last strange banning of wlbts and the references to PMs possibly being read. I only realised there was something odd going on again, from Blacksmith.

    So...I came over here to see what had occurred and am way behind on the antics and am wondering whether I need to go back and find out what the squirrel was. Not sure I do.

    Cristobell, I PMed you initially at the end of last year - mainly re the nit-picking of your posts, the inner circle, the pack mentality etc..

    I wouldn't be surprised if there's a way for admin to read PMs and I'm sure one of my PMs (to a mod) was deleted before it got to the mod. I have my suspicions re a certain someone having taken the reigns of admin, one eventful evening.

    Re researching JH - I did a bit of surfing for info a while back and found an amount of interesting stuff, but what truth there is in it all, I don't know.

    Anyway - good to see some of the more sensible commentators having their say or with words of support here. I noticed RussianDoll and The Rooster - who experienced a Piggy of Lord of The Flies type episode I was quite shocked by.

    O

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  27. Private messages cannot be read on the forum but I can see the statistics of any member which includes how many private messages they have sent. One of the now-banned trolls sent a private message to another member which was then forwarded to me and that is how I know about what they were doing on my forum and that is why I've now disabled private messages for new members.

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  28. Are MI5 blackmailing JKH I think so

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    1. That sounds a bit David Icke-ish to me!

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  29. jkh @ 27 August 2014 22:39

    Just as I thought. I have tried to explain this probability a few days ago but it was ignored. Why? Because that is not what they want to hear and your explanation will also fall on deaf ears.

    Horatio.

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  30. Blimey Cristobell - you ain`t `alf gettin` some right divvies on `ere.
    Woofer

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    1. Woof at least you can post freely here unlike the pravda style propaganda
      emanating from the lapdogs on the cesspit.Are you really that dim?

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    2. Woofer. I think it's fair to say that the divvies are on the JH forum. No offence to you as your a good poster which are few and far between these days.

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    3. Woofer @ 28 August 2014 04:14

      Is that your contribution or have you got something more constructive to offer?

      Horatio.

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    4. Tony, err em I mean Horatio.
      Coaching / Indoctrinating is for CMOMM only.
      Might take a bit of work, Woofer seems to have an independent mind.

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    5. Anon @ 4:46. Yes, one can post freely. But care must surely be taken because what is `freedom` without any constraints? It`s actually chaos, mainly resulting from insecurity and fear. As I`ve said before - imagine this world with total freedom - it would be a mental chaos akin to hell. It`s about getting the balance right between freedom and constraint. If a population hasn`t got any self control, then rules have to be put in place. And yes, I am that dim, in fact dimmer than dim. I`ve only ever had one thread deleted on JHs and it didn`t really bother me - it`s the owner`s prerogative. I just don`t see why people can`t debate without getting hot under the collar - and yes, faults on both sides. All so silly - just what the pros want.
      And Horatio at 7:25 - yes that`s my contribution. Love Woofer.

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    6. Woofer, exactly why rules exist on JH forum to keep shit stirrers the likes of CB and her cult followers out. See how peaceful the forum has become now that the chief manure stirrer CB is kicked out.

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  31. You are not telling the truth.
    Please provide the pm that shows that posters were trolls operating out of internet cafes.
    I know what went on because it was my pm that was read and taken out of context and used to fuel a feeding frenzy amongst the delude followers.
    What I had said to another poster who was about to be banned(WLBTS) that it was easy to register in another name if you go to an internet café and use a different isp.
    Why do you need to lie about this matter JKH?


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  32. Is candyfloss back from her "well deserved break" yet?
    Just asking.

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  33. The other member would have to have been WLBTS.
    No Way.
    JKH if you are going to tell porkies you will have to do better than that.

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  34. Does anyone know what happened to Candyfloss? I was a member of CMoMM. I never posted only read, and then had my membership cancelled last Friday.

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  35. By chance I came across a new forum yesterday.

    http://maddiemccannmystery.forumotion.co.uk/

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    1. Re: Just saying hi

      Post Cristobell Today at 6:22 pm
      Hi from me too

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    2. Vincent @ 28 August 2014 04:53

      I notice that admin. is somebody with the user name Cristobell !?! Is this the birth of the much talked of new forum, can't be because it's called maddiemccannmystery but the anticipated forum isn't a Maddie forum is it?

      I did enjoy this posted by admin. as an introduction to the forum:

      *Everyone is welcome here, as are all opinions, and they will not be frowned upon, as long as they are sensible and not posted to cause disruption*.

      Nothing changes does it? Don't think I will be bothering, there's more than enough of these places already. It should be called *anarchy* because that is what all this is about but given time, it will end up in the same way as all the others.

      Horatio.

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    3. I'm not admin on the new Madeleine forum :)

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    4. Rosalinda Hutton @ 28 August 2014 12:14

      Admin was named as Cristobell when I posted the above but it's been wooshed now. Must have been a temporary blip or someone having a laugh at your expense.

      Horatio.

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    5. Is that a "FACT" Horatio?
      Do you have any proof?
      Thought not.

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    6. 'FACT' LOL at Horatio/TB

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  36. Anonymous @ 28 August 2014 04:17

    Do you realize you have contradicted yourself in one post?

    How did WLBTS know he/she was about to be banned, do they give prior warning?

    Horatio.

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  37. Anonymous @ 28 August 2014 04:21

    WLBTS? Sounds like a sandwich. Wet lettuce bacon and tomato surprise.

    Horatio.

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  38. I hope she doesn't go back because it's much quieter there now without all the trolling and infighting. It's like as soon as she left all the trouble went aswell. Think about it. Just saying.

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    1. JJ @ 28 August 2014 10:13

      Would you say an air of dignity? At least they are not using the opportunity to slag off any departed members are they, unlike this blog it would seem. Talking of which, are you quite sure it wasn't when Cristobell left that the atmosphere changed? If you look back I'm sure you will notice the time of change.

      Horatio.

      ps: no I'm not TB I am Spartacus !!!

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  39. IJJ28 August 2014 10:13

    I hope she doesn't go back because it's much quieter there now without all the trolling and infighting. It's like as soon as she left all the trouble went aswell. Think about it. Just saying.
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    You are surely not suggesting Candyfloss was the cause of in fighting? That is too ridiculous. CF was lovely, and that compliment's from one she banned.
    The reason JH Forum is quiet is that members there are now more wary since Christobell was banished and all their dirty laundry has been exposed.

    On another note, if I had a blog no way would I allow a post from the admin of a forum where I was banned. Nor from a forum where no new members are allowed to join. You can't post there Ros, don't give them a platform on yours.
    Tit for Tat. Don't give them a voice as you have none there. You are too nice. YOU ARE TOO NICE.

    As for that BB1 woman? She has the tongue of a snake. I've never seen such venom.

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  40. People are not banned BECAUSE Bennett and Havern have read their PMs. They are banned SO THAT Bennett and Havern can read their PMs.

    Notice how many people have left, yet still appear to have active profiles? That's because when they delete your profile, your messages go with it. If you have been banned, or told them you wanted to leave yet your name still appears alongside your posts, assume they have read all your PMs

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  41. I actually think Horatio needs to develop some good manners

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    1. Anonymous @ 28 August 2014 11:28

      Do you? Interesting.

      Horatio.

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    2. Benet aka Horatio has no manners.
      Is this Herr Baden something whatsit his son by any chance?

      Strange how we know nothing of Bennett's kids or wife, yet he delves into the lives of children and accuses them of lying in the face of law and plasters the results all over the net.

      So glad I no longer have my old name or address. He's like that bogey creature that attached itself in an advert. New identity so rid of him.

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  42. JJ28 August 2014 10:13

    I hope she doesn't go back because it's much quieter there now without all the trolling and infighting. It's like as soon as she left all the trouble went aswell. Think about it. Just saying.
    .............................................
    Why do you say, "Just saying."? Is it akin to "basically"?

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  43. Anonymous28 August 2014 04:47

    Does anyone know what happened to Candyfloss? I was a member of CMoMM. I never posted only read, and then had my membership cancelled last Friday.
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    There was a mass clear out where only those who posted remained.
    Your membership name will remain of course to add to the many hundreds before you. Makes it look like a very popular site.

    Makes Mr Bennett a total liar all over again, sitting in his cellar untied for a while for him to figure some sums.

    There is no truth though. All membership figures at Haverns are lies, so Bennett has no basis to work from. Oh what a mess!

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  44. Horatio = Bennett. Kick him to the gutter.

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    1. Anonymous @ 28 August 2014 12:30

      Didn't some anonymous person very recently say something about learning some good manners?

      Pity you can't take the truth without turning ugly but I admire your vivid imagination, that takes some beating.

      Horatio.

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  45. The forum is quiet because an outrageous accusation was made against CB in order to avoid acknowledging the fact that Mr Smith issued a public denial of being a friend of Murat, thus completely demolishing the officially held forum theory that he is a liar. Notice that this has still not been addressed on the forum nor an apology issued to either Smith or CB.

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    1. You are wrong. The forum is quiet because the shit stirrers were booted out.

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  46. Anonymous28 August 2014 01:52

    Are MI5 blackmailing JKH I think so
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    If that's CH again, he needs to be put in the cooler for at least a month.

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  47. Anybody know who 'admin' is on that new forum? An ex CMoMM member apparently.
    Will be joining soon (when got some time to post). Hope everyone on here will join as well.

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  48. Yes WLBTS had been warned by TB in a private pm that he wanted him out .It was a matter of time as WLBTS had outed TB ,not for cottaging but as Fleffer ,you will recall.
    Now stop trying to defend the indefensible .

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  49. Candyfloss leaving CMoMM has calmed waters down ...? What a joke! I've never seen a more balanced Moderator [having said that, I've seen more than one, but still ...]. And I truly support her efforts to put up a new forum. It's building up slowly, but steadily. I compliment her. She could have decided to retire and enjoy life without hassle. Châtelaine.

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    1. I agree about Candyfloss. It's a thankless task. And her presence there gives the new forum a certain calibre.

      NFWTD got it in the neck on here as well the other day, which was totally unmerited as well.

      Maybe you should call the new forum the 3C's: Chateleine, Candyfloss and Cristobell :)

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  50. 'Much calmer now' - totally becalmed I would say. Nowhere much to go now that 'Smithman' discussion seems to be off limits. Just round and round in circles.

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    1. Yeah.......have noticed this too.

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  51. You have been deceived all right! By your own brain chemistry. You do need to work out why your life revolves around the McCanns. It's an obvious part of your mental illness. You're not getting paid for this Rosalinda, and the deception you're seeking an answer for, is in the recesses of your own brain.

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  52. Fecking hell Bell, no offence to those posting here but the Maddie saga has always been a magnet for crack pots, I know I was one for a while lol most of the more prolific contributors have always had other agendas, i'm glad that internet bullying & trolling is being looked at its about time, the more vulnerable take it to heart and thats dangerous and lots of these sites need to be monitored, freedom of speech is fine until it starts hurting people, be careful love some of these people are whack jobs and intimidation, spying & stalking is second nature to them, stay safe Bell x

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