Sunday, 23 August 2015

DISCUSSING THE MCCANNS


Most people are mystified at the discussion surrounding the case of missing Madeleine McCann.  It all began in the early summer of 2007 when the world awoke to the news of a toddler being stolen from the bosom of her family in a fanfare of sensational headlines.  The iconic picture of the toddler Madeleine in her red Christmas party frock bore little resemblance to the almost 4 year old little girl, but it captured the public's imagination and it tugged at the world's heart and purse strings.  

The bereft parents Gerry and Kate, two intelligent and erudite doctors appeared in front of the cameras almost immediately to establish that their daughter had been abducted and that they were the innocent victims of a heinous crime carried out by strangers.  They were not irresponsible chavs who had left their kids without a babysitter to go out on the lash, they were hard working, middle class professionals desperately in need of a break who made a mistake, and punishing them for that mistake would not bring their daughter back.  They were appealing to the PLUs (People Like Us), the similarly minded middle classes, people who would have done the same, people who had done the same, journalists and politicians, people who would understand and sympathise with their dilemma. 

So successful was their campaign that criticising Gerry and Kate for endangering their children became taboo and it also became a class issue.  Not only did the lower classes not understand the difficulties with childcare faced by their hardworking betters, they were downright evil.  They were haters and pitchforkers who lacked the intelligence and compassion of the PLUs, lowlives and scum who deserved to be shunned or made examples of.   

Thus in the summer of 2007, we entered the Twilight Zone.  Wrong became right, black became white and the pious, God fearing parents were flown out in a private jet to meet the only person holier than themselves, the Pope.  Their blessing by the Holy Father broadcast to Catholics all over the globe - forget the poor, the sick and dying, there were two new saints on the block who needed their help more. 

Whilst it was true to say the case of missing Madeleine attracted more than its' fair share of nutcases and self righteous prigs, it also caught the attention of thousands who could see almost immediately, that they were watching a scam.  Whilst the McCanns' lips said their daughter had been stolen, their eyes said they were lying through their teeth.  Any one of the hundreds of interviews given by the parents could be used as a master class in deception and forensic linguistics and I have no doubt they will used in psychology, criminology and media courses for decades to come.  But expertise isn't necessary, our ability to spot lies is programmed into our psyche, if it weren't, we would all be the doormats the McCanns believe we are.  We know what devastation looks like, we know what grief looks like, sadly we have seen all too often, how genuinely grieving parents look and behave, and we know how we would act ourselves. These were not parents bereft at the thought of their child's body being ripped apart by paedophiles and monsters, they were parents buoyed by media attention and public donations.    

The parents' campaign was intended to capture the world's attention and provoke discussion.  They even paid an agency £500k to keep them on the front pages of the tabloids for a year whilst in the background, their anonymous media monitors stirred the pot, urging the haters on to provide them with proof of harassment and unfounded allegations. They needed sympathy and nothing says you are innocent more than the angry face of sanctimonious busy body as desperate for media attention as themselves. 

Tony Bennett became the unacceptable face of those who did not believe the McCanns.  Taking on the case as investigator, prosecutor, Judge and Jury, he confirmed time and time again, that even the most reasonable of people who dared to question the abduction story were cut from the same hardfaced vigilante cloth as himself and thus we were all treated by the media with the same disdain and contempt.  Most of us had nothing to do with his 'Madeleine Foundation' (a way to steer donations to himself?), or his hounding of the McCann family and their associates but we were all tarred with the same despicable brush. 

For the McCanns, Bennett was the gift that kept on giving, he gave them headlines during the quiet periods, provided evidence of harassment in their damages claim against Goncalo Amaral and invoked public sympathy for their cause.  Who could fail to feel sorry for them, Bennett's stalking knows no bounds.  

However, the majority of McCann sceptics are nothing like Bennett.  They were drawn to the case through their sympathy for the little girl who's life was taken and who's image has been abused for this past 8 years.  Abandoned by her parents, the little girl was abandoned again, by the adults on that fateful holiday, by the grandparents, the uncles, the aunts and all the extended family and friends who sold the lie to the watching world with such relish and enthusiasm, trashing the Portuguese police and Goncalo Amaral, the investigating detective who was getting far too close to the truth.  The parents were the victims, the doubters were the enemy.

But the abandonment of Madeleine didn't finish there, not only did her family perpetuate the lie, the British government and several high profile members of the British police joined in. It suited their agenda, stranger danger is one of the most effective ways for a government to propagate fear among the masses.  In a nutshell 'your kids are risk, (especially from the internet) and only WE can protect you'.   

For many of us, this case became so much more than that of a missing child.  It revealed the sordid underbelly of Whitehall's power seekers and the depths they will sink to in order to gain and maintain control.  Restrictions on Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Information go hand in hand with discussion of this missing particular missing child.  Criticism of the parents was not only taboo, it was almost a criminal offence, with calls from Jim Gamble to place 'antis' in the dock, no doubt with a prison sentence to follow.  Brenda Leyland didn't stick around to find out what her punishment would be, she killed herself.

Yes some sceptics are angry, and understandably so, no parent should make their child disappear and profit from her tragedy and no government or police authority should aid and abet such a crime, even if does suit their own murky agenda. 

For all those who abandoned Madeleine, there are hundreds if not thousands who will never give up on her. People who understand that the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.  And this case
sadly, and intriguingly, takes evil to a whole new level. The appeals for money for a child who is no longer with us, goes off the scale. Who would do that?  Who could do that? The books on psychopathy need to be rewritten, Madeleine doesn't need cash, she needs a decent burial, but most of all she needs justice. 

65 comments:

  1. One of your very best, Christobel... a superb over-view... with the exception of the slagging off.. .again... of Tony Bennett. He may be irritatingly OTT with his huge lists of important points, and he cannot always see that other people legitimately think differently, but he is doggedly trying to be 'Mr Relentless for Truth' in finding out what really happened... whether to Stuart Lubbock, Lee Balkwell, or Madeleine ...and he has suffered for it.

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  2. Many thanks, but I cannot agree on Tony Bennett. In my opinion he has been a massive carbuncle on the quest to find justice for the missing child. The McCanns claim they have been hounded, and the actions of Bennett reinforce their claim. He has no social or moral boundaries and he only 'fights for justice' in high profile cases that will draw media attention to himself. A bit like Clarence.

    It is impossible at this time to estimate the damage Bennett has done to this case, not only has he boosted support for the McCanns, he has probably added years to the investigation. Any suffering he has endured has been entirely self inflicted. Goncalo Amaral had no choice, Bennett did. He chose to make a spectacle of himself and he chose to hound the McCanns until they took him to Court. He wanted to usurp the hero title, but it wasn't his to take, Maddie's avenger is the dignified and stoical Goncalo Amaral, not the attention seeking Bennett.

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    1. RUBBISH!
      ''....................... The McCanns claim they have been hounded...................''
      Well they would , wouldn't they? Good for Tony I say.

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  3. "the dignified and stoical Goncalo Amaral". You are joking, aren't you?

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    1. Who brought the circus to PDL? Who took the circus to the Vatican, Morocco and every other dim-witted European Embassy that would have them? Who has appeared regularly on the breakfast sofas and our TV screens begging for cash? £4million just wasn't enough. Who lied and lied, then lied some more. The all singing, all dancing, Team McCann circus. I rest my case.

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  4. Yes, agree with first comment. A very good over-view that I will show some persistent McCann believers...
    But also I see no need for the Tony Bennet- slagging. He does things in his own way, but everyone can see that he is being honest and deeply dedicated to find the truth in this tragic case.
    I'm not familiar enough with the 'Smithman' story and all its different angles, but what I've read so far...I agree fully with Tony Bennets words. Based on Martin Smiths statement.....there is no case at all. Nothing that would even come close to a court.
    I hope you don't believe that any longer:-)
    Other than that, I 'm very fond of your blogs. I am also very interested in psychology, and the McCann couple surely is 'à gift that keeps giving when it comes to case studies. How blind do people have to be to not see their masks??

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  5. Sterling article Ros, and your defence of it.

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  6. If the McCanns have governmental protection (which at this point in time seems to be the most plausible explanation for so much obvious evidence being ignored), then it's logical to assume that Goncalo Amaral cannot win his appeal no matter how much money is donated to him via crowd funding.

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  7. Bennett's investigation of the innocent witnesses in this case is an abomination, how dare he! How dare he publish all their private family information on his public forum, I sincerely hope he is among those facing prison when this case ends.

    Bennett, like the McCanns has pulled the wool over many people's eyes. He is not in it for justice, he is in it for self aggrandizement and probably cash. He believed his 'Madeleine Foundation' would become as big as the Madeleine Fund, a means through which disbelievers the world over could express their anger by making donations to his legal costs. He failed spectacularly, because the McCanns knew exactly what he was up to, and stopped him in his tracks. Even without their intervention it would have failed because he has as much personal appeal as a rotting skunk.

    He is the opposite of honest. His research is biased and manipulated to fit his own loony theories, none of it stands up to scrutiny. He is mad as hell at Robert Murat because in his eyes RM has profited, and he hasn't. Now RM is top of his hit list and he is using (and twisting) the evidence of the Smiths to incriminate him. How dare RM profit, while he (the victim) suffers. He is so transparent, he can be read like a Janet and John Book 1.

    Do not be fooled 16:19, there is very good reason why Operation Grange and anyone with any sense wants nothing to do with him. He has no support from any experts or anyone credible, even ex policeman Petermac now steers clear.

    Bennett's 'work', is the work of a crazed stalker, not a legitimate researcher, but even the work of a legitimate researcher would have no bearing whatsoever on the outcome of this case. The armchair detectives simply don't have the information, the resources or the inside knowledge to come any logical conclusion and that they believe they have, is merely a sign of their own inflated egos, to the rest of us, it's nonsense.

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  8. I just don't think that Tony Bennett is as important (whether in a good or bad way) as you do, Cristobell.

    I would be happier to read your blogs about the total weirdness of this case with no mention of him at all.

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    1. I agree, Tony Bennett's significance to this case has fizzled out as he becomes increasingly more ridiculous. However, as I get older (and wiser) I am becoming less tolerant, and today Mr. Bennett went one 'nasty bitch' too far.

      There are indeed far more interesting aspects to this case, not least the psychological perspective. The dysfunctional characters in this case could fill an entire text book on human behaviour, and it is the study of that behaviour that is closest to my heart. At the age of 14, I set out on a lifelong study to discover what it is that makes people evil, nature, nurture or even need. This case has it all.

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  9. So the latest 'Mutton' missive in my spambox came from the disturbed mind of Verdi on CMoMM, lol. No surprises there. Here's a tip Verdi, I will not publish comments that address me as 'Mutton'. It's not funny, not clever and it is completely lacking in imagination. Your misery comes from yourself, neither I, nor anyone else can make you feel better, only you can do that. What I say and do has no bearing on your life, and although I am flattered that you think it does, it is actually more than a little creepy and it only serves to exacerbate the deep feelings of inadequacy that plague you. Get out and about, try to think of something else, even if only for a moment. Baby steps perhaps? But please, don't keep torturing yourself on my account :)

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    1. That is a pet hate of mine, Rosalinda - people using silly names like Mutton. It's to be expected of McCann supporters like Bonnybraes and her cackling friends but those on CMoMM should really know better.

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  10. l-azzeri-lies-in-sun.com.Is it Bennett?

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    1. I think that the lies in the sun blog is the combined efforts of two or three people on the Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann forum.

      No proof though, it's just a feeling that I have.

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  11. So creepy Bennett is now stalking my family and friends. What do they have to do with the McCann case and justice for Madeleine? Well listen up Bennett, the McCanns and the Smith family might not report your stalking to the police, but I bleddy will, you have been warned!

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  12. @Ros 01.31

    As you shared the picture publicly it is hardly stalking is it?

    "Rosalinda, Cristobell Hutton
    Shared publicly - Aug 9, 2015

    With son and a best pal on the Wright Stuff :) 7/8/15"

    https://plus.google.com/117020933596303537753/posts

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    1. I shared my picture on my google profile for my friends and those who follow me, just as people post pictures on Facebook.

      I did not give permission for Bennett to use it on his forum, a forum that is actively inciting hatred (and violence?) towards me, and now it would appear, towards my friends and family.

      The use of my family and friends on his hate site is more than despicable, the lowest of the low in the social media world. How would he (or you) feel if I were to post pictures of Bennett, his wife and grandchildren on my blog? Would that be acceptable to you?

      Have no fears, it is something I would NEVER do, because as even as atheist and libertarian, I have morals and standards - something you and the rest of the grim reapers on CMoMM will never understand.

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  13. Cristobell, I hope you're keeping well.:) I've missed commenting on your excellent blogs because of ongoing computer problems, but I'm all sorted for the time being.

    I cannot for the life of me understand why Bennett doesn't just concentrate his efforts on getting justice for Madeleine. That's what the forum banner suggests,discussion about ''the complete mystery of her disappearance'' not gossip about Sonia Poulton, you, or others on another forum, How is that vindictive behaviour helping? I am shocked that he is now stalking members of your family & friends, It sounds to me as if no-one's safe in his quest to become famous! and all for the wrong reasons.It makes you wonder how he got to be a solicitor doesn't it?

    Those that join him in this childish vendetta may find one day, they too will become a victim.

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  14. Why have you not published my comment that simply said that you posted the photo of your friend and son and therefore it is in the public domain and hence not stalking by bennett?

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    1. It's my blog, I will publish what I want, but meanwhile I will point out yet again how ridiculous you are that you believe you can tell me what I can do, say or publish.

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    2. Is that not your post at 8.45 on 24th August, Anonymous at 20.56?

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  15. Many thanks 18:45, I'm not really sure what the members of CMoMM are hoping to achieve by attempting to incite such a frenzy of hatred towards me. It may be that want members of the public to attack me in the street, or as is more likely, they are hoping to push my 'fragile' mind to the point where I will in fact commit suicide. They are more than aware that I suffer from manic depression, my 'madness' is another stick with which to beat me, I suspect they nod off chanting 'go on do it, do it', they want blood, my blood.

    Their hatred is of course completely illogical. None of them know me, but their lives it would seem, would be greatly improved if I were no longer around. But just like every person they hate to that extent, my existence or non existence won't make one iota of difference to them personally. They will still be filled with simmering anger, aggression and disappointment with their lives, and will simply turn that gut gnawing resentment onto someone else.

    For the first few years it was aimed at Kate and Gerry McCann, and they could justify their behaviour by claiming their campaign was for justice for a little girl robbed of her life. Though, even then, part of them knew that their odious behaviour was unacceptable to most normal people, so they kept their identities hidden. They keep their identities hidden still, almost to the point of paranoia, the shame of exposure terrifies them, their fear of Sonia's documentary is eating them alive and they have nowhere to go with their anger.

    Fortunately, I am able to stand back and observe from the perspective of an outsider looking in, I don't feel anger, so much as pity. I have always approached this case from human behavioural perspective, therefore (most of the time) I can look at it logically, because I can see and understand the reasons behind the dysfunctional behaviour.

    Bennett however has an agenda that is even more murky than that of his little band of grim reapers. He wants (needs) to be seen as the avenger of Madeleine McCann (or road signs), or heck, anything that will prove once and for all, that he has been chosen by God to lead the people out of Sodom and Gomorra (he has an unhealthy obsession with all things sexually deviant). At the moment he is hanging Christlike on a crucifix, asking his father to forgive us (me especially), 'they know not what they do', he piously opines, but like the McCanns he can be saved by acknowledgment of his good works, and cash, lots of it. He had hoped to tap into the outpouring of generosity the name of Madeleine evoked, 'support me and she will have justice'.

    That his delusions are encouraged is troubling, but he will be forgotten quicker than all the wannabe martyrs who have gone before him, he lacks the charisma of his cult leading predecessors, and when push comes to shove, no-one will be joining him on the cross. Just as the world saw through his 'Madeleine Foundation', they can see through him, and as you say 18:45, he will knife all the Judases in the back long before the cock crows.

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    1. Thanks for your reply Cristobell. Like I've explained before on previous blogs of yours.. I hate joining forums for the simple reason they do tend to attract a fair share of nutters, and people who at first appear to be decent. Over time they find out through either friendship, or being damn right nosey parkers!! things that we would not normally divulge to complete strangers. Once they've found out your weaknesses they store it, only to use it against you should the occasion arise, then they discharge that ammunition to wound their opponent, which is what they're trying to do here. There IS NO compassion, only hate, and don't they just thrive on it? You're a strong person Cristobell, and although upsetting to be a target of their anger, they're the one's with a personality disorder not you.

      I wonder how many of them would admit to suffering from an illness such as the one you mention.You're a good person, and don't let others opinion of you make you think otherwise.

      Take care.

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    2. Spot on - @ 1737 I learned that lesson the hard way too.

      If human dialogue is to be meaningful - there needs to be an element of mutual disclosure - and the soul suckers (like Tone and many others) will use the intel gained, the moment they can use this to their advantage - it's Machiavellian politics writ large.

      Tone is a past master of this 'sport' - how that tallies with his alleged Christian principles, I'll never know.

      But then Tone is inconsequential, he failed at every hurdle of his professional life, his forum has had tumble weeds rolling along it for ages. It's defunct, bereft of a single original post - 'Oh let's get back to the frigging shutters' - does not count as an original post.

      I don't know why you pay any attention to the creep after all these years, Cristobell.

      Tone thrives on other peeps' (perceived or real) misery, he is best ignored.

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    3. 23:54, ''Tumble weeds rolling along it for ages'' Had a chuckle at that one!!

      The problem with Bennett's forum is... they view anyone new with suspicion right away, without giving the poor buggers a chance to familiarise themselves with the damn forum.Have you noticed anyone new that joins that group is grilled relentlessly, and practically tortured in some respects as to who they might be, an ex member with a new id, or god forbid, a McCann supporter in disguise.. It's never ending and the paranoia is unbelievable. Still it gives anyone looking in a good laugh.

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    4. I think that the ex-members (banned ones) with a new ID are treated with a lot more suspicion than McCann supporters!

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    5. George. Good point, but some of those ex -members were ganged upon because they dared to disagree with the more established posters, to put it politely. which is a shame as some of them brought their own knowledge and expertise to the debate such as psychology, and forensics, two subjects that are interesting and indeed revealing in order to get to the bottom of what really did happen to Madeleine.Why shouldn't people be allowed to differ in their views, without being cast aside because of it? It wouldn't pay me to be on their forum, as I detest people who try and bamboozle me into their way of thinking. We're all different and I thank god for that.

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    "How would he (or you) feel if I were to post pictures of Bennett".......... "on my blog"?

    LOL. I must be imagining things. I thought for a moment that Bennet's "picture" IS on your blog and has been since Sunday. 2 days before you posted your hypocrisy

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    1. I should have said his wife, children, grandchild, friends (if he has any), rather Bennett himself. Where on my blog are there picture of them?

      Bennett, like myself is active in the case of missing Madeleine McCann, we put ourselves 'out there', therefore the use of images are par for the course, something we must accept.

      My friends and family have NOTHING to do with this case, and I suspect the same applies to Bennett. Therefore his targeting of them is morally wrong. For a God botherer, Bennett it appears, has no morals,

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  17. You are tarred with the same brush Ros because you are equally as responsible for the online vigilantism against the McCanns as the self opinionated and obnoxious excuse for a human...Tony Bennett. Yes Ros you are, accept it.

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    1. The online vigilantism, as you call it, has arisen out the blatant injustice that has been done to the victim, Madeleine McCann. Remember, the little girl who disappeared, in case you have forgotten.

      Child murder is one of the most heinous crimes in any society. It invokes anger and on occasion, violent retaliation. We (most of us) are wired to protect our young and our vulnerable, it is the means by which humanity has survived and evolved. I am not in any way inciting violent retaliation, I am merely stating it is as it is, and it's an emotive subject.

      The failure of the police in Portugal to prosecute anyone (not their fault) was bound to cause a backlash, add to that the failure of the British authorities, and the British mainstream media, to defend or to act on behalf of the missing child is an abomination, an outrage to our collective sense of decency, justice and fairplay.

      The internet was the best thing since sliced bread for the McCanns when Madeleine first went missing. It was a means for them to spread the word and pass round the collection bucket. Unfortunately for them, the internet that served them so well, is proving to be their downfall. The news we receive is no longer censored or limited by borders. Even though the authorities still feed us propaganda, we all have the means to look beyond the headlines. We are no longer the easily controlled and docile population that we were in the middle of the last century. Information is available to all, not just to a chosen few - that's progress, but I can see how this must be extremely vexing for some.

      It is strange that you have prioritised the online vigilantism against the McCanns, as though that were the most important aspect of this case. Shouldn't your priority be the missing child or are Team McCann not even bothering to mention her these days?

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    2. Just a quick note to the frenzied occupants of CMoMM and JATYK2 whilst they are discussing my modus operandi, lol. It appears not one of them understands the concept of supply and demand.

      Let me explain as simply as I can for the slow readers on the above mentioned forums. If you were a baker and you produced a popular loaf that sold out the moment it hit the shelves, would you a) discontinue that line, or b) produce more? Take your time.

      My readers are drawn to my McCann blogs, because the McCann case remains a gripping subject and I explain the intricacies of the case in a reader friendly and indeed popular style. I am catering for my readers - supply and demand.

      For those still trying to get their heads around the above hypothetical question, the answer was of course, b) ;)

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    3. Cristobell, People are drawn to the McCann case, but also to you the person that creates these witty, interesting, and often humorous blogs.
      The real person that has had a few knocks in life but is able to bounce back from the negative, and turn it into a positive!! Guts and determination are required when dealing with those that wish you harm, I for one can identify those qualities as I'm a fighter too, not literally though, but I won't deny I have come close, lol.They say you gel with those that have similar personalities, and characteristics, to your own so, like I've said before carry-on blogging, and entertaining the masses you have my permission. :)

      A fan xx
      Ps managed to get a copy of your book ''cry and you Cry alone'' sad, but very interesting!!

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  18. Cristobell I think all the discussion on Mr Bennett is taking away from the great blog you wrote. I can neither condone or criticise your inclusion of him in the blog as I don't read a whole lot of what he writes. Although as Martin Smith is a fellow country man of mine and from what I am told a very decent law abiding man who would never deliberately mislead or misinform anyone let alone a police force in such a serious crime, I tend to understand your point of view. I don't know Mr Smith personally but I have been reliably informed that him and his family have agonized over the years over the the innocent part that fate cast them in this affair and it might be worth reminding those who cast doubt over his word that unlike them him and his family can never walk away from the case.
    BTW totally out of order anyone misusing photos of your son but he looks a bit of a hottie lol

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    1. My heart goes out to the Smith family 19:54, they have been caught up in this fiasco through absolutely no fault of their own. Simply by reading Mr. Smith's statement it comes across loud and clear that he is a decent, honourable man, who wanted to do the right thing. All this nonsensical speculation is the product of a manipulative mind trying desperately to get a slice of the highly lucrative Madeleine action. It is to the credit of Mr. Smith and his family that they have refused to be drawn in by the constant baiting and taunting they have received from Bennett. In my opinion, witnesses in a live ongoing investigation should have some sort of police protection from the constant harassment and hounding we have seen in this case, particularly when the hounder is completely without any morals or sense of common decency.

      As for my son - yes, he is indeed a hottie lol, when I told him what you said, he asked how old you were and did you have a picture, ha ha. He loves the girls, and they love him!

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    2. lol Cristobell sorry to disappoint him but I'm an auld doll old enough to be his Ma but it was my daughter who is a hottie also who offered the description of him. Keep up the good work, there really are some eejits that you have to put up with on here.

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  19. Ros please stop this. You are doing yourself no favours and showing what a narcissist you are, and an unfeeling one at that.

    Leave the McCanns alone, they have suffered enough and this business of a massive cover up by all and sundry does not wash and is not true.

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    1. You accuse me of being a narcissist, yet you haven't mentioned a single point I have discussed. Does my being a narcissist make the McCanns innocent? If I were to balance on one leg on a plinth in Trafalgar Square chanting 'I'm a loon' would that make them innocent? Do you not see how absurd your comments about my character are?

      You also accuse me of being 'unfeeling'. Not true, tis my empathy for the suffering of others that brings on my crippling and debilitating lows. If I had even the slightest doubt about the McCanns involvement in their daughter's disappearance I would not be commenting negatively about them.

      As you are no doubt aware, In the early days I refused to condemn the McCanns, because I could not have lived with myself if I were adding additional pain to parents who had suffered such a tragic loss. It is for this reason that I am accused of being a 'pro'. It was not until I was certain beyond reasonable doubt, that my commentary changed.

      As for the McCanns' suffering, that is beyond my, or indeed anyone else's control. It comes from within themselves, and it comes from living with the fear of being arrested and prosecuted. Nothing I do or say can make any difference whatsoever to those constant feelings of dread, it is something only they can deal with. Truth sets you free.

      Blaming one's misery on other people, is leitmotif in this case, it is rife among the antis. Each angry and miserable person is totally unaware that their anger and misery comes from within themselves and that only they have the power to change it - I really don't! lol, though in a weird I'm kinda flattered that they think I do, but seriously I don't.

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    2. 20:47, How do you know it's not true was you there? calling Ros a narcissist is the funniest thing I've heard to date. You're looking in the wrong direction there. The majority of people that've spent many years researching this case would disagree with you, there is NO DOUBT this is one massive cover-up.

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  20. Never give up on Madeleine McCann?

    For those you would like to garner support from. Never giving up requires accepting the 'opinion' the child is dead and that somehow the parents covered up that death.

    For others, like myself. Never giving up requires accepting that as long as her death has not been proved, keeping hope alive for the missing child is the greatest gift those who only have opinions can give. Putting Madeleine McCann above our selfish beliefs.

    There are three associated facts.

    1. Madeleine McCann is missing and her fate is not known. Hence, nobody has been charged for any crime as no crime has been proved.

    2. There are groups of people who are only prepared to accept the worst for Madeleine and refuse to entertain any hope. No proof required.

    3. There are groups of people prepared for the worst and hope for the best when her fate is proved.

    1 and 3 require proof. 2 doesn't require proof.

    If you really cared for Madeleine McCann you wouldn't give up on her without proof and then claim that situation is 'not giving up on her'

    I stand with the good people who await proof while supporting awareness that keeping hope alive is the most caring gift for a missing child. Standing against those who perpetuate propaganda that a missing child as dead, without proof.

    Never give up on Madeleine? Leave your opinion at the doorstep and bring in your message of hope!!

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  21. Cadaver dog evidence points to death in 5a, no one died in there before Maddie stayed there. Hoping that the child is alive is contrary to the evidence.

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    1. I’m sure Cristobell is more capable of answering you than me but for what it’s worth here is my thoughts on the points you have made.
      Point 1 - You are correct in saying “nobody has been charged for any crime....” however the reason you gave “...as no crime has been proved” is not correct. The fact that the child is missing proves that there has been a crime.
      Point 2 – Not true in the absence of proof there was almost 100% support in the beginning for searching for a live child. It was only when the dog’s evidence was presented by the PJ, the statement from SY that the child may not have left the apartment alive and the fact that the child has not been seen for 8 years convinces most people (regardless of who they think the perpetrator is) that the child is dead.
      Point 3 – I think that’s true of the majority of people who have not read the files and have no particular interest in the case (not just wee elite groups like you belong to) will hold out that hope that the child is still alive but as you admit “are prepared for the worst”. They are prepared for the worst because they take the evidence of the dogs and the statements by 2 modern, ethical, police forces have been presented as a true reflection of the available evidence and not some worldwide conspiracy against the parents. I think that those people (as well as people like myself who have read the files) may take offence that you take the moral high ground and accuse them of letting down a wee baby because they’re not selective in what they want to hear or believe.
      I can totally understand peoples need to maintain hope but this requirement of yours that people and presumably the police also live in this fairy world of disregarding the evidence and concentrate fully on hoping the child is alive and living with a nice kind lady is letting the down the child a lot more than those who would seek justice.

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    2. Fully agree! Obviously someone who has delved deeply into this case and plucked out, like many of us have, that incriminating little word ''evidence,'' I'm sick of hearing that same old mantra ''There's no evidence,'' well I'd like to ask those same people, why did the dogs only alert to the McCann's apartment, Kate's clothes, and even more so the car? Rotting meat and dirty nappies um, er, pull the other one, who are they trying to kid.

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    3. I have always wondered why the McCanns reply with 'no evidence' rather than 'we are innocent'.

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    4. They know there's ''NO EVIDENCE'' because as Kate, and that tiny tears husband of hers keep telling everyone, 'there's absolutely no evidence to implicate us in the disappearance of our daughter,' and 'we know more than you do,' 'we know what we saw' yet they're not prepared to tell anyone what they saw, why not? Because they know the kinda evidence that would solve this case.. WILL NEVER BE FOUND. Now they can carry-on raking in the money for their FIGHTING FUND without any consequences whatsoever.

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  22. "a way to steer donations towards himself?"

    Glad you put a question mark after that sentence. I have to say I don`t think it was. IMO he was not about making money - don`t think he`s that type of person. It`s more like a religious fervour of rightness similar to the Popes in the middle ages that instigated the crusades. Note how he conducts himself like an `Inquisitor`. It`s like all the religious do gooders who have spread themselves over this planet destroying civilisations. They think they are right. It`s more about narrow-mindedness IMO.
    Louisee

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    1. Can't agree Louisee, how do you think the Vatican amassed such a large fortune? The popes in the middle ages were selling tickets to heaven. Money is the answer to EVERY question, especially in the case of religious and cult leaders. Followers of both are usually required to hand over all their worldly goods and/or pay subscriptions for the rest of their lives. The reason the Catholic Church demands celibacy of its priests is to ensure that their money and possessions are returned to the church on their deaths, and not to wives and children.

      The fervently religious are guilty of the worst atrocities, sexual and financial. They use religion to 'punish' themselves for their deviant behaviour - rape a child, say 10 Hail Marys and the slate is wiped clean. Ditto, persuade a wealthy parishioner to finance a lavish lifestyle and repent with a bit of self flagellation. Normal people and libertarians have no need to punish themselves, they are not caught up in a cycle of guilt.

      Don't be fooled by Bennett's supposed pious lifestyle, his behaviour is so par for the religious course, it is almost textbook. Note also that he has not replied to the detailed questions put to him by Chris Roberts. Has anyone looked at the accounts for the Madeleine Foundation, bearing in mind that one of its founders has already been prosecuted for financial fraud? And as an aside, clients do not pay lawyers directly, it is unheard of in the legal world.

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    2. : Ros 00.34

      You can't beat a hefty waft of bennett libel just after midnight!

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    3. LOL, having been incarcerated with religious lunatics as a child, I know more than most about their vows and poverty and abstinence. The children were fed the cheapest cuts of meat and the waste donated by local factories and we wore the caste of clothes of all the kids who went before us. All the 'good' stuff was reserved for the priests and the nuns.

      Anyone interested in the financial machinations of the Catholic Church, need only take a look at the 'good' works of Mother Theresa, an evil woman who kept the sick and dying in her care in a permanent state of poverty because it was good for their souls.

      But back to Bennett. The website for the Madeleine Foundation stills exists. Note the 'shopping cart' and £3 charge for the Madeleine Case files Volume 1 (free everywhere else) and of course, the 'membership fees', presently blank, but with a proviso for the directors to increase the fee at any time. I rest my case.

      http://madeleinefoundation.webs.com/constitution.htm

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  23. He's a self opinionated bigot.

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  24. Extract from the Blacksmith Bureau


    "The Blacksmith Bureau

    Thursday, 27 August 2015
    Well Now

    Comment on the McCann affair now ends and I’ll be re-opening the original Bureau instead as a focus for our five thousand or so regular readers should they wish to join us. I’ll post news about that soon."
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    So how many times now has he said he is stopping posting about the Mccanns?

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    1. Don't care that much, I'm afraid as he is very much in the vein of

      'Sentimental Agent' and 'The Author' and 'Coldwater' on the Mirror forum - who also gave the impression of being in the 'know' to the terminally gullible - whilst not knowing how to find two matching socks in their clothes drawer.

      Verbose - all of the above, yet utterly fact free. Kinda Miss Marple - sans the marbles.

      Fluff

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    2. I'm actually a big fan of Blacksmith, he has been one of the more intelligent and consistent commentators throughout. His blogs have often been insightful and have opened our eyes to aspects of this case that we might otherwise have overlooked. I hope that he reconsiders.

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  25. He hasn't said much since he was proved embarrassingly wrong after the latest trial. He seems to be seizing on the CMMM mob behaving in exactly the same way they always do as a reason to announce and flounce. Can't say I'm that bothered either way.

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    1. I think we were all embarrassingly wrong after the latest trial. The verdict in the McCanns favour was pure 'Twilight Zone', absolutely no-one could have seen have seen that coming after the pathetic performance of Team McCann in the witness box!

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    2. @ Ros 10.36

      I wasn't embarrassingly wrong and I foresaw it.

      Try not speaking for everyone.

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    3. Are you seriously telling us you foreseen that the judge would rule for the mccanns because GA had breached his public servant confidentiality requirements. If so you should join the bench yourself

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  26. It's been almost a year now since the Brenda Leyland incident, I wonder, who amongst the people involved (apart from the obvious), actually feel any remorse for what they did?

    Archival Helen, Bury. x

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    1. It was a dreadful business indeed Helen, we were all shocked to the core, and it is hard to believe that those who organised the outing of Brenda were unaware of the repercussions of their actions. Indeed, from the Inquest it appears Sky News were aware that Brenda was suicidal, but they went ahead with it anyway. It does make you wonder if 'powerful' people were being held to ransom in order to get this news story on air and repeated throughout the day. The message was loud and clear, 'criticise the McCanns and you will be next'.

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    2. Yes it has been nearly a year now - and still Ros has not come up with the name or the breed of dog that brenda lived with!

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  27. Catherine Mason from the Codswollop Court, must be fired. Get rid.

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    1. No idea who Catherine Mason is I'm afraid, would you like to fill us in?

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    2. http://news.sky.com/story/1449183/inquest-mccann-trolls-death-was-suicide

      She was the coroner at Brenda Leyland's inquest.

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  28. News Listing - Gehirndoping
    Gehirndoping wird zumeist angewendet, um eine der Steigerung der Intelligenz zu erreichen.
    Hirn doping

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