'NASTY EVIL LOOKING PIECE OF SHIT' - a reference to the picture of Brenda Leyland remains under their 'troll' article, whilst my comment below is whooshed!
Demonising those who do not believe the McCanns has been the nation's sport for the last 7 years, yet even a cursory look at the details of the case will reveal that the abduction story simply doesn't add up. Brenda was not a troll, just a concerned citizen who had done no more than pursue justice for a missing child. As a frequent tweeter on the McCann hashtag, I too have been subject to threats and abuse from McCann supporters, in fact anyone who expresses doubt about this case receive the same treatment, newbies especially are torn to shreds.
Celebrities too are jumping into this discussion, protesting that 'ordinary' people should somehow be restrained, or restricted from posting their views and opinions on social media because they can't be trusted. There is a kind of snobbery when they talk about the 'lawless internet' and the uneducated making whoopee with snippets of information they don't have the mental capacity to process. Troll hunter Dom Joly dives in calling me 'Totally fucking Nuts', then blocks me so I have no right of reply, yet I am labelled the troll!
This is the age of information and anyone with a bit of gumption can google anything they want. The truth about this case is merely one or two clicks away. In a current poll, over 90% of the population do not believe Kate and Gerry McCann and their disbelief is not based on envy or hatred, it is based on the original Portuguese police files that are freely available online.
Anyone else having their responses whooshed by the MSM can have them published here. We will get the truth out there one way or another!
"Celebrities" often have a vested interest in keeping the press and the internet away from the reality of their lives. It is no surprise the Hugh Grant spoke out AGAINST press freedom, which had revealed his sordid lifestyle. Only when they want to make money for themselves do they reveal that they have been taking cocaine in industrial quantities - Fry - or that their sex lives, or lack of them, should be made public - Kate -
ReplyDeleteThe hypocrisy is plain to see. MPs objected to the Telegraph revealing their collective criminality over expenses, and no doubt some are still worried about their own sexual perversions being revealed.
I am no fan of Twitter or Facebook, and find them both stupid and vacuous, but also invaluable !
90 per cent do not believe Kate and Gerry the other 10 per cent are liers as for Dom joly full of his own self importance springs to mind i would like to see his hidden cam show in a house in Leicester and i do not mean Brenda Leyland house
ReplyDeleteSearch for McCann still on
ReplyDeleteNewly appointed prosecutor 'utterly determined' to solve case
Cost of investigation to top £10m
Into the strange timetable that led to Ms Leyland's sad death - the book; the trolling articles etc etc I feel the sudden reappearance of the old three arguidos forum should be inserted. It suddenly came back to life with no indication of where it came from and why it was revived now. TB announced it was back on 16 September. No-one has claimed responsibility and there is no indication of where it has been all this time although I'm sure we all have our own ideas as to that
ReplyDeleteIt was there for months before 16 Sep (as far back as April at least)
DeleteHi Rosalinda, I am currently researching for a documentary about Ms Leyland & her death as well as the trolling accusations & the storm that has blown up around this case. I would be interested to speak to you for the documentary on the circumstances of Brenda's death & trolling. I look forward to hearing from you.
ReplyDeleteHi Alan,
DeleteGood for you! Its about time someone looked into the McCanns' media monitoring, you have my full support.
Tis my opinion that several members of the McCann support sites, Stop the Myths and Exposing the Myths, are criminally insane. This has blown up now Alan due to the resulting tragedy but it has been going on for years. Supporters of the McCanns are among the vicious, threatening trolls on all social media and they have been compiling their wiki Hate List for years. It contains details of anyone posting anything critical of the McCanns online, their names, their families, their jobs their neighbours and friends. They had 40+ plus pages on me - and those were just the ones on public view!
As you can see, I have much to tell you Alan, my email is Rosalindhutton@aol.com - if you email me I will give you my number :)
You are a very brave man Alan, and hopefully all those who have been terrorised by these creatures will now have the confidence to come forward.
Rosalinda
Deletere: Alan - Be very careful who you get involved with. Do you know who this person is or who they represent?
I don't want to tell you what you should do but with what has happened to Brenda you need to be very careful.
Just a bit of advice from someone who is concerned.
Just another bit of advice ,,,
Deletedon't go into a hotel room on your own if invited, take a friend or 2 with you and if given a drink at the bar take it with you if you go to the loo.
Sorry to sound macabre but you can't trust anyone especially those who contact you on the internet.
Anything TB related makes me suspicious.
ReplyDeleteA certain person has also put a link to a website wanting a "government review into the investigation of Madeleine McCann" at the bottom of each of his posts, yet at the same time is doing his utmost to undermine the only credible witnesses into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
ReplyDeleteDuplicity at its best.
If that certain person hadn,t banned so many people from his forum CMoM
Deletehe could have had many more people on board.
His request for a review is IMO a sinister gimmick.
Everyone,s details may be sent to Team McCann Inc as part of his legal obligations to the McC,s
Something very sinister is going on with that certain person.IMO
Celebrities too are jumping into this discussion, protesting that 'ordinary' people should somehow be restrained, or restricted from posting their views and opinions on social media because they can't be trusted.
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Are these the same zlebs who are posting selfies of themselves naked on the internet and then cry with anguish when they've been ridiculed and called names when people can find those photos without too much trouble??
Is it the same with the McCanns who can print all the details about their sex lives on the internet to publish a book about "their missing daughter", the book seemed to have ended up all about them, yet they don't think they should be open to criticism. Who the f**k cares about their sex lives, we were more interested in what happened to their daughter Madeleine (do you still remember her name K & G, by the way?)
For some reason the McCanns seem to think they should be above criticism 08:47, and they want legislation to enforce it! But as you have rightly pointed out 08 (please folks make up names!), everytime they make themselves the news they are inviting comment, and some of it will be critical. Even the Queen accepts that!
ReplyDeleteGerry wants laws to protect his children, but laws affect everyone. Taking his demands to reductio ad absurdum, anyone (with children or sensitive relatives) could demand only nice things be written about them. Who the hell advises this pair? Or are they too stubborn (stark raving bonkers) to listen?
...don't forget that on Gerry's bedside cabinet was a police manual titled "the interpretation of murder"...they are capable of anything, in my opinion
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ReplyDeleteThe books found on Gerry's bedside cabinet including the one about 'Abduction' have bothered me for some time. Strange choice of books to be taken on holiday in my opinion. I wonder why the McCann's haven't been questioned about how they came by these? Very suspicious reading material under the circumstances!!! It's almost as if they knew a disaster was going to happen!! Far too many co-incidences, and lies told for it to be a straightforward abduction, as we have ALL known from the very beginning. It's unbelievable that this case is still ongoing with all the evidence collected so-far, I'd like to know why the main suspects aren't being re-questioned, and made to answer all the questions they've avoided answering for so long.Until then the parents of Madeleine must remain under suspicion.
Thank you
Off subject but does anyone know the reason for T.B.'s "Now the truth will come out" avatar on CMoMM.?
ReplyDeleteCould someone please direct me to where I could find official confirmation as to the books found on Gerry's bedside cabinet
ReplyDeletetake a look at gerrymccann-abuseofpower-humanrights.blogspot.co.uk
Deletelots of factual evidence including a link to a document that disproves that an intruder would not have been able to sedate and questions the 'doctors' present and what little or no knowledge they provided re medical matters
http://gerrymccan-abuseofpower-humanrights.blogspot.co.uk/2008/09/kate-and-gerry-mccann-books-found-in.html
DeleteTitles of books here.
I had a look at that blogspot but all I could find were some pictures of books with no information on who took these photos or when they were taken. Could someone please direct me to where I can find official confirmation, or at least confirm the photographer and date taken.
DeleteThe more you read the released PJ files, the more your mind is opened to this case.
ReplyDeleteWhy, why, why did they delete loads of calls and texts from their phones from the day before the disappearance and the following night. In fact, why did they spend most of that night on their phones instead of going out LOOKING FOR THEIR DAUGHTER like 99.9999% of parents would do if their child was missing.
You do not delete call records and texts from your phone unless you have something to hide.
I delete texts from my mobile because the memory fills up quickly. And I suppose that because of the circumstances their phone was being used a lot, both for incoming and outgoing calls/texts.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, with most phones, if the police wanted (and had proper authority) to retrieve texts or call information, they could. If they thought it was important they would have investigated.
The police DID do what you suggested and could retrieve the fact that calls/texts were made/received. It was by doing this and comparing against the phones that it became apparent the pair had deleted loads of texts AND call log entries from the day before the alleged abduction and the night itself. But not all, just ones to certain numbers.
DeleteYou may delete texts if they fill up, but nobody whatsoever would delete incoming/outgoing call entries from your phone log, unless you had something to hide.
The PJ found the numbers but couldn't trace who some of them belonged to (anonymous prepaid phones, or coverup by the UK phone operators? no one knows). All that is known is that K&G thought it necessary to go into their call logs and start deleting all traces to certain numbers, when they should have been out looking for their daughter.
I thought they could trace the numbers - I seem to recall having seen a log of all calls made in another forum and none of those were particularly suspicious
DeleteI have read all the police files and there is nothing in them that proves the McCanns guilt. There are a series of 'theories' from Amaral which are not backed up by fact. I don't know why people who doubt the McCanns refer to these police files all the time, as if they 'prove' the guilt. They prove nothing.
ReplyDeletedogs don't lie, fact
Deletethere's nothing in the police files that proves they're innocent either muppet
DeleteJust to remind you, in western countries, thank god, we usually follow the principle, innocent until proven guilty?
Delete@7.08 Pinky there is a whole body of circumstantial and witness evidence to convict the pair .It is only a matter of time and then you can get on with trying to save face in Brighton.
DeleteIf there was sufficient evidence they would have been convicted or, at the very least, brought to trial.
DeleteI'm not 7.08.
@23.47the wheels of justice turn slowly.There is no rush as sadly the child is gone, as you well know
DeleteIt's not a case of 'the wheels of justice turn slowly' - it's a case of total lack of evidence.
DeleteNor are the scenarios put forward by many on here plausible: -
1. A conspiracy of silence by many to protect a couple from murder charges against their daughter.
2. A couple involved in one of the highest profile cases in recent history being able to hide the body of their child in a wardrobe in an appartment in a hot country for several weeks while being the prime suspects by the local police force - no search, no smell, no flies?
3. A couple, followed by the local police and world's media, being able to smuggle out the body of their child in the middle of the night and then find a hiding place for her in a country that is basically unknown to them - and that hiding place to remain undiscovered.
Can't you see how much more plausible it is that the child was abducted?
Anon at 02.56
DeleteNo. 1 - it wasn't just a couple, it was their Tapas friends who may also have been involved - a number of doctors, who are supposed to be respected and give advice out to other parents regarding child neglect/children in peril of being absued and have to inform authorities about any child neglect they may come across.
No. 2 - as Gerry said "ask the dogs".
No. 3 - who said it was the McCanns who may have smuggled out a body of a child whilst the world's media looked on. How about all the family that were called in to support the McCanns, the McCanns went on visits to Morocco, to see the Pope whilst being followed by the world's press - a case of "look over there" not over here.
Can't you see how the the public have had the wool pulled over it's eyes for over 7 years?
No, I can't see how much more plausible it is that the child was abducted, nor can many thousands of others following this case.
You Martin Brunt are at the wind up.
Delete14:19 except France of course...
DeleteNo, not Martin Brunt. Just a normal member of the public.
Delete1. Do you really believe that the 'Tapa's friends' who have children of their own could be complicit in the murder and disappearance of a 4 year old girl.
2. Besides the unreliability of the dogs - the video released by the Ministério Público appears to show that the handler was directing the dogs to particular spots inside the apartment - you have not come up with a suggestion as to how you think a body could stay hidden for a number of weeks in a wardrobe in a hot country without smelling or attracting flies.
3. You can't be serious? Again, do you really believe that the close family of the McCanns, who obviously are also close family of Madelaine, could remove the rotting corpse of their loved one and hide it somewhere in a strange land?
Member of the public at 09.09 - you need to take your blinkers off.
DeleteNo. 1 - some of the Tapas friends according to their statements left they're tiny children alone in the apartment when they had diarrhea to the extent the the smell was horrible when they entered the apartment. Is that the statement you would expect from a kind loving parent who put themselves second to their children??
2. Who said the dogs were unreliable, oh, how you wish. Whenever have the dogs been unreliable? They are used by the FBI in detecting numerous things from dead bodies to fire arms, but you know that anyway. A body wasn't in the apartment for weeks which you know as well.
3. Who knows what the family of the McCanns would do when their reputations and a multi million £ Fund (which was to benefit the family - remember it wasn't a "charity") were at stake? Were the McCanns (K & G) going to give up their life style, the professions they'd worked numerous years to achieve, the friends in high places, just for a moment of madness (perhaps in a drunken rage), I doubt it. Weren't they asked by the PJ if they'd ever thought about giving Madeleine away to a family member? Where did that idea come from? No doubt the PJ had been given some information maybe from a family member who knew what was going on within the family or from social services who knew what may have been going on.
People do hideous things when they're desperate, you only have to read what's in the news every day i.e. the Phillpots burning down their house and killing all of their children. Was that a case of loving, caring parents, no, I don't think so.
People say hideous things when they are desperate to find reason for illogical thoughts.
DeleteHere's one conspiracy theory for you. What if the authorities of Praia da Luz were so concerned about the bad publicity that a child abduction would bring on their local tourist industry that the most convenient explanation was to point the finger at the McCanns for the killing and subsequent hiding of their daughter's body?
that was martin brunt as in cockney rhyming slang
Delete'that was martin brunt as in cockney rhyming slang"
DeleteActually no, not Martin Brunt, but I have to congratulate you on your wit.
Anybody got anything constructive to say?
I have noted that you and other posters keep referring to a conspiracy in this matter. Could you please clarify exactly why so many government agencies would be complicit in the in the abduction or murder of a 4 year old girl?
ReplyDeletethere wasn't any evidence of an abduction and there still isn't, the poor girl died in the apartment. if you don't think there is something wrong with DP in an rogatory statement saying that there are things he knows that aren't quite right but him being interviewed by a Detective "isn't the right forum" to discuss it, then I'm betting you're McMedia...
DeleteDavid Payne's witness statement to Leicestershire Police 11th April 08
DeleteDC Messiah
"Is there anything that you consider pertinent or relevant to establish the material truth"....... (concerning the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.)
DP
"Err, there are a few things but I don't think this is the right forum for bringing those up".
DC Messiah.
"OK"
So why is David Payne withholding evidence? By his own statement he has important information on what happened to Madeleine. Did the Leicestershire Police follow this up? If not why not?
When are we going to hear that Redwood has ASKED Payne about the 'few things' Payne KNOWS that he considers 'pertinent and RELEVENT, to ESTABLISH the MATERIAL TRUTH, about a 3 years old child's 'disappearance'?
Reread and you'll understand that the Leicester police did not wish to bring things up because they were critical of another police force - the Portuguese police force.
DeleteThere is no conspiracy just murder by the child,s mother and cover up by both parents and friends.imo
DeleteThey have been lucky.They need to be lucky all the time.The police just need to be lucky once.
Leicester Police Farce were asked to INTERVIEW them, that means ASK QUESTIONS and GET ANSWERS, not just say "OK" to a response that needs further probing. I dread to think who is investigating Brenda Leyland's death, God rest her soul, let's hope it's not the likes of you!
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DeleteI see it that Leicester Police interviewed the Tapas group without them realising every word they uttered would be checked with the statements they gave to the PJ which has been done and has shown numerous inconsistencies.
They may have not be interviewed under caution by the LP but it must have been an eye opener to the PJ investigating them and showing how they've squirmed, manipulated and changed everything they've said since 3rd May 2007.
It may have given the PJ and SY ammunition as to who and what they should be investigating.
You people are unreal - Everybody involved or close by - neighbours etc were interviewed and re-interviewed - not because they were suspected to be involved but because they may have been able to throw some light on what had happened. That's what happens in cases like this.
DeleteWhen you refer to "neighbours" do you mean the Tapas friends?
DeleteIf you are referring to the Tapas friends they were all involved in checking on the McCanns' children, God knows why, when the McCanns didn't get off their backsides to check on the Tapas friends' children.
It looks to me like doctors all involved and covering themselves not to be incriminated but wanting to hang on to their "top jobs" and lifestyle, Madeleine had gone and couldn't be brought back, by hey, why lose your comfy lifestyle when you can spin yourself out of a situation if you all stick together and keep a "pact" when Gerry McCann can do the speaking for them all so they don't drop each other in the sh*t.
Although it doesn't seem to have worked out so well as they hoped.
I mean all persons, friends, neighbours, witnesses - anybody who may have given some light on the investigation
DeleteI'd just like to say, if the parents where innocent of any wrongdoing then surely they would answer any questions put to them. They wouldn't need to lie, and stutter their way through interviews. Why keep altering their stories! They look dodgy, and uncomfortable in most of their interviews, why is that? probably because they know they are leaking bits of the truth each time they are asked the same question, cause they forget what they said in other interviews. You've probably heard the saying 'A picture paints a thousand words' need I say more? Just watch their body language and still be convinced they're telling the truth.
ReplyDeleteAnd you're an expert on body language and interview behaviour?
ReplyDeleteOne doesn't have to be an expert on body language. It is an instinctive gift most of us are born with. It helps us in rearing our children and in making good decisions. Unfortunately a few are lacking in this gift. Is this deficiency the unfortunate reason why a small minority of the public who have as many socks as medusa has snakes on her head, are unable to read the pairs, and their pink prawn's body language?
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"Is this deficiency the unfortunate reason why a small minority of the public who have as many socks as medusa has snakes on her head, are unable to read the pairs, and their pink prawn's body language?"
ReplyDeleteWhat on earth are you going on about??