I think many of the antis (the gruesome name given to us on social media)believe that I am calling them haters, or indeed dismissing them, as haters and trolls. I'm not. The majority of people calling for justice for Madeleine, Goncalo and sadly, now Brenda, are absolutely right to do so. If it weren't for their voices, there is every likelihood that this case would have been filed under 'Parents Innocent' and Gerry and Kate would have been lording it over us with their peerages and spending power.
Most of the people involved in this case feel personally affronted at the injustice that has been done to this little girl. And quite rightly. Children cannot just disappear without questions being asked. If the strong did not speak up for the weak, this would be a very cruel world indeed. The voice of that small child was lost somewhere in the industry and circus that sprung up around her name, and that was the point at which most of us stepped in and why we are still here today.
Unfortunately, high profile cases attract the nutters and the attention seekers and perhaps I am one of them, but I should point out that having undergone an intensive psychological evaluation, the overall consensus was that I am a good egg (not a liar), and those currently checking out my posting history will find that I kept a low profile for many years.
But that aside, the fact is those shouting the loudest were the ones who were being heard, and not in a good way. They were deliberately stirring up hatred, and it was easy for them to do, emotions were heightened, and angry people can easily be manipulated, as any wannabe despot or tyrant will tell you.
The anti side did attract bad people. Most have now moved on to other 'victims', but a few remain, and if their malevolent influence is not pointed out, they will take over and any hope for justice in this case will be lost. There will be a lot of questions asked and answered when the 'revelation moment' arrives, and it will, and many will wonder how they were so easily taken in.
Turning to the word 'anti' - I agree it is a horrible word, and there really isn't any such thing. We may speak to each other in forums and FB pages, but we are not now, and never have been, an organised group of any sort. We are all individuals and we tackle this injustice in our own individual ways. I haven't elected anyone to speak on my behalf in this case or indeed on anything else, and I certainly wouldn't presume to speak on behalf of others. That would be appalling bad manners. If someone asks me how I am, I don't reply 'fine, but I'll have to check with majority'.
I am not condemning the antis as a 'whole', there is no such thing. The majority of people who speak out on behalf of Madeleine want no truck with mob mentality, it is unfortunate that they are the voices we rarely hear.
Anyway, I have butternut squash soup to make, and a hill to climb (literally, I am going on a ramble) :)
http://tapnewswire.com/2015/02/whats-to-become-of-the-hampstead-whistleblower-kids/
ReplyDeleteThis needs to go viral.
http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/children-describe-satanic-ritual-abuse-sacrifice-video/#idc-container
DeleteWhooa wtf scarlet law has just walked out. Man I thought you coulve been a nut with all this paranoia about tony being in with mcscamms but now she says the smith mans are telling the truth, she's been ganged up. Man Im very sorry christobel, I believe you now. He difinity has some kingda agenda going. I'm not going back, they're as bad as mcscamms!
ReplyDeleteI was never sure what was going on but after seeing scarletlaw accused of being there before I think what everybody says is true and they're the ones who are mad. I always saw her as that Jodie Foster woman in Inside Man and has connections with people who are against the McCanns. She wasn't like anybody else on there for me and I've been going on there for a few years now. For me she and PeterMac are only the true believers on there and I find both of them have really good points but he hardly posts anymore. I think he might be sick of them too and wouldn't be suprised if he goes next. My husband thinks its a bad idea to go on JH because he thinks they're not telling the truth and up to something with not letting people talk about Gerry being Smith man as well. I won't look in on them either because I don't trust what they say anymore.
DeleteHe's probably Peter Mac too lol
DeleteLucy-he either accuses them of having been there before; or of not being passionate enough, or disruptive.
DeleteAll these are just an excuse to get rid of them because they don't suck up to what "Uncle Tony" wants. CMOMM are North Korea now, everything censured by a man who's completely lost it.
@06:36 Can you let me know the thread that she has walked out, can't find it anywhere. Thanks in advance.
Delete@02.22
DeleteI just checked the history on my phone and it's no longer there? They must have deleted it. I don't want to go back there and search for it because I'm paranoid now that Tony might know who I am by the signing in yesterday. It was morning just after 9.30 am and on the theory forum I think. This is all from memory so it might not be 100%. I check in to see if there's any news on the final verdict quite a bit lately.
Scarletlaw said she and some experts had found out that Gerry had changed the timeline like the evil under sun book by Agatha Christie or something. He said they left after 10 and Diane in her statement said it was 9.45, and she believed Diane. Then she said as some of the Tapas staff statements and Mrs Carpenters are being held by Teresa May the group must now campaign to get these released because that was the only evidence now to prove the parents involvement. Also she thought this gave Gerry time to become Smith man because he then told everyone to spilt up and search soon after. That it was staged and evidence here is not right or something on what we do have on Gerry searching.
Then aquilla came on and demanded that she show evidence for "your so-called theory" and she put up links for Gerrys and Dianes statements I think, then Ladyinred stormed on and said she had to go to the members forum. That's what made me jump, because I've never heard of anyone being asked to go to the members forum ever?
Then I can't remember which one but they started accusing her of being there before under a different name and Scarlet said, that's rubbish and swore on her childrens life she hadn't been. Then Scarlet said thank you to the people who'd helped her and said something about hoping they treat new comers nicer than they treated me and that she'd left the playground long time ago or something and would rather stay with forums who had a healthy attitude to finding Madeleine. I got the impression that she was accusing them of not really searching for her.
I had to go to my in-laws and was kicking myself all day that I hadn't put on my laptop to copy and paste it to send to Christobell. My husband says that Scarlets post could be important on Gerry but it also proves that Tony is trying to keep any Smithman evidence appearing. I don't like to get involved with other people disputes but I wanted to prove to everyone that Christobell is telling the truth about Tony and what happened yesterday supports that.
I used to get bullied at school and know how it feels when people turn on you. That's why I broke my rule of not posting because I wanted people to see that.
I've seen Scarlet and Aquilla argue before but what struck me as funny as why they wanted her off the forum and in the members forum tout sweet?
Crikey, they wanted her off the forum didn't they! lmao
DeleteWhat is the members forum?
(Well done Lucy for supporting Christobell btw :) xx
It looks like the thread was called "This just gone on top Daily mail". The thing is that I don't see the post where Aquilla jumps in. It seems to have been removed. It's no surprise as it employed a disgraceful attitude.
DeleteYeah well in with mc scams! Thats why he nearly lost his liberty and is paying compo to the deadly docs. You can dislike someone..its human nature but don't spout such Bs because of that dislike.
DeleteMany thanks Lucy for telling us what Bennett is really up to
Deleteon Haverns. This blog is getting thousands of hits each day, so the truth behind those whooshed threads is getting out there :) Kind wishes to Scarlett and if she wants a platform for her theories, I and those of us following this debacle would be delighted to read them!
I have no doubts now that Haverns forum is being used to feed its members and the reading public with disinformation that will assist the McCanns should this case ever come to trial.
Tony Bennett is hell bent on convincing people that the Smith family DID NOT see Gerry McCann on the night of 3rd May and that the first arguido, Robert Murat is involved.
His need to establish this lie as the truth, dominates everything he says and does. As many of us discovered, and now Scarlett Law too, challenging Bennett's 'the Smith family are liars' theory, results in a ban and in worse cases, lashings of online abuse and vitriol.
It has been apparent for quite some time, that anyone who questions TB, especially in his rage towards potential witnesses for the prosecution, will be turned on by the usual gang of cyber thugs plebgate, aguila, lj,smoke and mirrors and a handful of members who seem to have appeared only to comment on 'I love the smell of burning female flesh in the morning' threads.
It is notable that most of the credible and indeed sane, posters from Haverns have either been banned or have left in disgust. What remains is a hardcore of specially selected members who post in support of the lunacy. There are rarely, if ever, new posters with interesting and alternate ideas, they simply wouldn't be allowed. Even the 'old faithful's who put up with so much on CMoMM in order to have a voice in the campaign for justice for Madeleine, seem to have given up in despair.
Should the Portuguese, or the Crown, ever prosecute the McCanns, the strongest evidence they have (to my knowledge) is the sighting by the Smith family of the Gerry lookalike carrying the Madeleine look lookalike on the night.
The sole aim of Bennett and the Havern forum now is to convince the public that a) the Smith family are infidels and liars* b) pick up where Exposing the Myths etc (pro McCann hate sites whooshed following the Brenda Leyland death dossier) left off, ie. character assassination of 'doubters' and anyone trying to get to the truth.
Bennett is now running the McCann Media Monitoring Unit, via the forum he has seized in a non hostile takeover. Whether the MMMU want him to or not (he is a loon) is another matter, but I doubt there is much honour in those deeply entrenched in this scam, and they will all turn on each other when the time comes.
*Bennett spent nearly 2 years researching and smearing the WRONG Smith family, including a teenage girl whose school records he was trying to obtain.
Thankyou Cristobell. I was never sure of Tony but I would tell my husband things I read and he said something fishy was going on. I was shocked by what they did to Scarlet and still can't understand why they would do that if they really wanted to help find out what happened. I can't see why he would try and silence her other than if he had some kind of mystery agenda going on. I saw the post on my phone and quickly scribbled what she said down and I forgot to write the title of the post but it wasn't The Daily Mail one that somebody mentioned on here. My husband remembered last night that Scarlet said it was important that we put the information about the missing statements out there, so I'm glad I did my little bit to help that. I just hope that other people like me out there realise that this forum are up to something and aren't interested like us ordinary mums in getting justice and to be careful if they want to join. All of this has really shaken me up but I'm happy I did the right thing in telling everybody. I wish I had yours and Scarlets bravery.
Delete@lucy After reading what you said I think TONY is Lady in Red and Aquila.
DeleteAgree with everything you said too Cristobell, as somebody said yesterday they always seem to come on in twos. I don't believe in coincidences that they just both happened to be there.
Shame on you Tony and I hope like I did, they all leave you now!
Hypocritical to have that banner going across telling people not to be abusive when you have secret profiles to just that to people, well women anyway.
I want them all to know that they're welcome to join us on this forum anytime.
It would be good to hear from this girl on her pov on what she experienced. It's sad because it used to be a good place to go to and meet like minded people.
Delete@2.22 it was like the girl said but I remember most she said, thankyou for proving my theory is right by trying to remove me, that's what stuck in my head. I thought bloody hell, she knew their game all along-f-ing genius. I can't remember the title either but I'd had a smoke ifkwim. She had benetts card marked from the start lmao. Stoked by a girl who's a frog too. Bet he's been choking on his bible and swearing ever since.
Delete"I am going on a ramble"
ReplyDeleteOh it sounds as if you just did a ramble!
Hello Cristobell. I don't comment on JH because I don't like the bullying but I like to read the posts because I've had a bad feeling about the disappearance from the start and love reading what people think. I don't know if you read JH anymore but Scarletlaw said that she thinks Gerry told his wife that she had to check at 10.03 and this is true on his statement. What Scarletlaw said was really it was only 9.45 when they left the restaurant and then Gerry disappeared for 30 minutes to search by himself and could be Smithman. She also says that the goverment has these missing statements of the people who saw him during the time and we have to campaign now to release them. My friends husband is a policeman and he thinks that the witneses who provided the statements could show through time that Gerry left earlier than we think and could be right on the conspiracy.
ReplyDeleteMy first question is. Do you think we could get the government to release them and find out what happened to madeleine if we got a petition together?
Second thing I wanted to ask you was, I read on one of your posts that Tony might be ladyinred or somebody else could have said it. Can you tell me who yourself and other people think he is because I'd love to know? There's something really creepy about him.
Mccannfiles has something on the missing files. I can't remember what it said now but they have hidden some.
DeleteI didn't know anything about missing statements, have to look into that. I think bennets all the women cause they attack people in pairs. Have you noticed that they're never alone. Surely they can't always be on at the same time.
Delete@lucy hmm...imo if the statements are not there, ther'e a reason for not being there. I'm not Sherlock holmes but..bit bloody obvious evidence has gonna walking.
DeleteOn David Ickes forum once I did see a rant between 2 people where they were het up about Gerrys search timings. One bloke was saying that it couldn't take 15 minutes from 5a to get to the Carpenters balcony and it didn't mesh with the 2 minutes that it would actually take and he had a map to prove it. Mrs Carpenters rog interview is missing which I always found curious. Wonder what's in there about our Gerry?
DeleteI can't see them releasing anything even if there was a petition because like the Gaspar fiddle shows these people are protecting Gerry and his weirdo friend. Makes you sick!
See above :)
DeleteI see the situation as this. Nice people who have an opinion and just want to say their peace join these groups and then become caught up in the mob way of thinking. I prefer reading on here and the other ones like Pat Brown rather than joining groups because if they're not watched they become nasty places. The Halvern one is the nastiest one of all. I have read quite a few posts on people who were pushed out and they all seem to be women. Are the men pushed out in the same way I ask myself?
ReplyDeleteI left at Xmas and Scarletlaw who just joined I remember said that she was only there until Amarals verdict was in. I thought she was there for a legal group or something.
ReplyDeleteTony probably hated her because she actually wanted to do something like you and Sonia. Instead of just sat around and moaning about the same thing all the time, which all they seem to do. When's Sonias video out btw. Does anyone know?
We should be the Pro-Madeleines and the supporters of K and G should be the anti's because we're trying to get justice why they're doing their best to hamper justice!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletewho is mags shaw on havens,she seems to be right behind benett and agrees with everything he says,it used to be a brilliant forum but now you can understand why people are going to candyfloss forum.i think haven ought to get rid of benett.
ReplyDeletebye the way benett,THE SMITHS DID SEE GM.
Now we are seeing why the hate and vitriol
ReplyDeleteOn September 5th 2014 on this blog, regarding TB's Myths and legends part 2. It was pointed out the lie emanating from TB that Murat and McCanns phones were both off for the same 32 hours.
After consulting over the weekend, TB writes on CMOMM today that it is not the truth and blames other sources
But check out CMOMM "Why Murat and McCanns phones were off for the same 32 hours. " From 8 January 2010 ; TB started this nonsense.
He stated it was a little known fact, and needed wider publication,
He was told then repeatedly it was a little known fact as it was not true and finally today, after 5 years he comes clean.
What else has he lied about?
When is he going to tell the truth of his cover up
about Fiona Payne?
When is he going to tell us about the reason for Mr Edward Smethurst's benevolence?
When are his disciples going to start thinking for themselves?
What is there to cover up about Fiona Payne? That she is not really a Dr, that the Dr in her family is/was her sister - or somethiing else?
DeleteCMOMM have a "blood spray" thread.
ReplyDeleteDisgusting creatures - there was no evidence of blood spay anywhere - apart from what the haters want to fantasise on.
but there was blood behind the sofa and on the walls if I remember correctly,so perhaps that's what the thread is about.
DeleteIt sounds to me like a complete waste of time following the CMOMM when their's so much misinformation being spouted, the least they could do if they're going to set themselves up as experts (cough) is get their facts right!!
ReplyDeleteI only check in to Tony's blue lettered ramblings when I want a good laugh.
Delete@15.36 That was an older thread that Scarlet put up. She started a new one on Sunday but I forgot to write the title down when I did my notes for Cristobell.
ReplyDeleteI don't go on CMOMM anymore but a mate from work talked about this Scarletts post on Operation Grange being dodgy and I thought that was a real eye opener. Noted Joss was the only person supporting her and I did sense the knives were sharpening behind her back. I said to my mate, she'll be pushed out too before you know it because she's telling it as it is and bennett won't like that. I do think the old codger has totally lost the plot and needs to get help for this paranoia complex he has on everybody and glad I'm not there anymore to put up with his mad rants. Has anyone noticed only his harem comment on his posts now, everybody else avoids him?
ReplyDeleteI've been a member for only a short time of the forum and had no idea all this was going on until somebody messaged me from a Madeleine face book forum after I told her there's a strange atmosphere going on and if you're not part of the gang you feel pushed out. I really liked Scarlet law and I'm stunned that the two people accused her of all this and even more so, that the group have done this before with other people.
ReplyDeleteI just don't understand how they're allowed to bully people this way when it's made clear that you can't be abusive when you put up posts. I'm with Lucy, a return is out of the question for me too now.
YOU AGREE WITH SMITHMAN BEING GERRY- YOU GET NASTY CHARACTER ACCUSATIONS AND PUSHED OUT!
ReplyDeleteCMOMM has this written on the wall to it's moderators.
Even without the deals with the McCanns he comes across as one seriously nasty individual allowing bullys to persecute people! (or is it really himself that feels the need to kick women?)
ReplyDeleteThis campaign does attract nutters like the article says and it's a shame that one of them gets to run one of the biggest forums.